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andysays said:
I'd agree that Sunak appears to be making some sort of move, I'm just not as convinced as Badgers' twitter quote appears to be that Mirza's resignation is a central part of it.
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It might not be, but it happened on the same day and in this area of politics the reality is less important than the perception and the resulting media narratives.

It doesnt really matter anyway, at least not beyond the Westminster bubble and those of us watching all the tedious details for every possible sign of Johnsons downfall gaining momentum.
 
Wilf said:
Of course sunak can't resign from the Cabinet to become an open challenger, given that we are in an economic crisis. And Johnson can't sack him for the same reason and many others. So, no doubt we'll see more of this ^ from sunak in the next few days. Suspect he'll be slyly promoting his credentials as a scandal free teetotaller as well.
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Or he could just start playing loud music while he's at work
 
andysays said:
I may have misunderstood this post, but Tory members are certainly supposed to get final say in choosing the new leader, unless, as Kaka Tim says, other candidates drop out before an actual vote.
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Yes and no. The members only get a final say on the top two candidates, so if their favoured leader doesn't have the support of the parliamentary party, then tough shit.
 
Teaboy said:
So what? Tory members don't get final say.
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they do after the mps have reduced the candidates to the final two. Or not at all if all the other candidates drop out - which is what happened with May. Thats unlikely this time round as there is no obvious candidate for them all to rally round.
 
bluescreen said:
"Having had the opportunity to speak directly to my local councillors and council candidates yesterday evening..."

Do you suppose they are getting poor canvas returns, looking to the May elections? Or do you suppose they're finding it hard to get canvassers at all?
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Both.

With Labour on the verge of taking over Worthing Borough Council for the first time ever, and Tim Loughton having already called for BJ to go, I am guessing the local party is giving the town's other MP, Peter Bottomley, a hard time.
 
I think I head Kuenssberg casually mentioning yesterday that at least one Tory MP had been given the impression by Johnson that they would get rid of the chief whip and Rees-Mogg.
 
Then there’s her replacement as head of policy, Andrew Griffith. A choice which has been described to me as a "desperate" by one Tory MP and "bizarre" by another.

This is partly because Griffith's prior job was that of a parliamentary aide to… Boris Johnson. Therefore, the rationale goes, he is not best-placed to help the PM hit refresh and see things with new eyes.

One Conservative MP wearily remarked that it seemed so far to be a case of "Boris's old mates being replaced by some of Boris's slightly newer mates".
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Fro the 16:50 entry of the BBC live updates page https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-60256680
 
When we get to the no-confidence vote, I really can't see him surviving it. Having said that, they often do, in the few times it has got to that point. May survived one and John Major did (he called it himself). Pig fucker got close to facing one iirc and IDS was kicked out by one. Can't remember how Hague's leadership came to an end but, well, who cares?
 
Wilf said:
When we get to the no-confidence vote, I really can't see him surviving it. Having said that, they often do, in the few times it has got to that point. May survived one and John Major did (he called it himself). Pig fucker got close to facing one iirc and IDS was kicked out by one. Can't remember how Hague's leadership came to an end but, well, who cares?
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Hague was done in by them only gaining one seat in the 2001 election, which caused him to resign.
 
His statement suggests he wrote it on the 12th January but then maybe waited a bit. It isnt actually clear to me exactly when he sent it, only that today was the day he was prepared to publicly state that he had sent it in.
 
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elbows said:
His statement suggests he wrote it on the 12th January but then maybe waited a bit. It isnt actually clear to me exactly when he sent it, only that today was the day he was prepared to publicly state that he had sent it in.
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His statement, issued today, said following a meeting with local councillors last night, he has now submitted his letter. so seems clear it was today.
 
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