PM Boris Johnson - monster thread for a monster twat

[kabbes]

Three out of every four Conservative members think that Liz Truss is doing a bang-up job.

ETA: no, even more. It's net satisfaction. That means if, for example, 1-in-8 think she's doing a bad job, it requires 7-in-8 to think she's doing a good one to get to a net 75%! In fact, since that adds up to 1, it's impossible for more than 1-in-8 to think she's shit.

 

[killer b]

Getting a negative score on tory party membership popularity is quiet an achievement!

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this is more than a year old though. fairly sure his numbers are worse now.

 

[killer b]

this is the latest, posted the other day

 

[cupid_stunt]

First he came for Peppa Pig, now it's the Lion King.

Desperate Boris Johnson quotes Lion King in pep talk to stop more staff quitting

The Prime Minister told staff "change is good" after five resignations, which is an unfortunate catchphrase for someone whose own Tory MPs are plotting to oust him - and after main rival Rishi Sunak launched a series of coded volleys at his leadership

www.mirror.co.uk

He said: "As Rafiki in the Lion King says, change is good, and change is necessary even though it's tough.

"We've got to get on with our job of serving the people of this country."

The PM added: "This is like a half-time pep talk.. This is the moment when spit out the chewed up slice of orange.

"You put the gum-shield back in and then you get back on the pitch. That's what we're doing".

 

[Kaka Tim]

I'm not so sure about this. Sure, they've had more than their fair share of loon leaders but whatever you make think of Cameron and May they were certainly not from that wing

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May wasnt voted for by the memberhsip - all the other candiadtes dropped out. Cameron was elected after the tories had got yet another drubbing in 2005 and in the wake of Duncan Smith (chosen by the membership) and Michael howard - unopposed care taker replacement. Cameron was up agasint David Davies and came accross as young, fresh and eurosceptic enough.
Tory members are arguably even more swivile eyed and trumpian now though - so the most batshit of the final two will be there pick. Sunak is nailed on to get to the final two. But if Truss can get there she has a good chance agasint him. Not sure who the ERG style headbangers will endorse as their loon - dont know how they feel about truss - but whoever it is stands a good chance of getting through to the final.

 

[cupid_stunt]

I suppose the correct reply to him quoting, 'change is good, and change is necessary even though it's tough', would be, 'so, why don't you resign?'

 

[Puddy_Tat]

First he came for Peppa Pig, now it's the Lion King.

have seen a suggestion that he's doing it for a bet...

 

[two sheds]

Truss as favourite though they like em intelligent do the tories.

 

[two sheds]

have seen a suggestion that he's doing it for a bet...

Probably match fixing type - "£100 on me mentioning Lion King".

 

[Wilf]

I suppose the correct reply to him quoting, 'change is good, and change is necessary even though it's tough', would be, 'so, why don't you resign?'

Just a passing detail in this shitshow, but he really can't observe even the most basic level of (Covid) common sense. Or, as he would have thought about it, 'fuck infections, Churchill would have done a rousing address in person'

I'm told that within last hour PM addressed 70-80 Downing Street staff packed into Cabinet Room, with dozens more online. PM's principal private secretary, Martin Reynolds, who resigned yesterday, was also in attendance. PM quoted Lion King character Rafiki: "Change is good."

 

[Plumdaff]

Just a passing detail in this shitshow, but he really can't observe even the most basic level of (Covid) common sense. Or, as he would have thought about it, 'fuck infections, Churchill would have done a rousing address in person'

Imagine if Churchill had refused to use the Cabinet War Rooms, too bally inconvenient. Not to defend Churchill, but this is the level of childish fucking incompetence we're enduring.

 

[Wilf]

I think we've finally reached the point where we have a PM in power for no other reason than he wants to be in power, simple desperation. As we know, his Brexit positioning was pretty much a coin toss and he chose the side he did for opportunist reasons. He's never had an ideological position beyond the generic slew of shit that sticks to any tory. A lot of people on here have said he's a lazy sod and would be happy to fuck off and make money. In the end he will do that, certainly, but I've never thought that was imminent. He's a solipsistic chancer and the stars lined up for him around Brexit, but the last thing he wants is to be publicly defeated and kicked out.

A while back I predicted he might announce he won't be leader beyond the next election and he may still try that. Maybe though that would feel like a humiliation to him as well. But for now he's running on the fumes of the confidence trickster with the TV cameras at the end of his drive. I suspect one thing that's in play now is he's thinking about what it will be like after he's been kicked out. The humiliation.

Having said all that, Labour and kieth are so shit that truss or sunak will have a fair wind behind them when they take over.

 

[Wilf]

Yes, yes, I know it's the Guardian, but I like the idea of having a discussion about how many lies he's told, just this week:

Truth and lies: how honest was Boris Johnson this week?

We look at a selection of the PM’s statements this week and rate them for honesty

www.theguardian.com

 

[gentlegreen]

Spoiler: silly video

 

[elbows]

First he came for Peppa Pig, now it's the Lion King.

Desperate Boris Johnson quotes Lion King in pep talk to stop more staff quitting

The Prime Minister told staff "change is good" after five resignations, which is an unfortunate catchphrase for someone whose own Tory MPs are plotting to oust him - and after main rival Rishi Sunak launched a series of coded volleys at his leadership

www.mirror.co.uk

From that same article:

Asked if it was like the last days of Rome, Treasury minister Simon Clarke replied: "The last days of Rome, I think, were more fun."

 

[Artaxerxes]

Probably. Just trying to picture what an actual working day inside No10 is like. I mean, when there not cracking open the vino or whatever.

Spreadsheets, spreadsheets everywhere. Action meetings, IMPORTANT THINKING SESSIONS. Project Managers under foot.


Basically imagine the worst and most soul destroying CEO/Exec meetings you can imagine, every single hour. You can see why you'd need to drink.

 

[elbows]

I see the Guardian have reported on the latest Sunak comments that are not lost on the press. The first quote is something he said in a Sun article.

We have always been the party of sound money – we will always continue to be on my watch – and that is the only kind of party I am interested in.

Sunak also ends the article saying he wants to take the right economic decisions “to ensure I – and future chancellors after me – can respond in emergency situations and in the best interests of the country”. The reference to “future chancellors” is a sign that he has been giving some thought to the time when he might have moved on to perhaps a bigger government job.

3h ago 10:41

 

[Wilf]

Of course sunak can't resign from the Cabinet to become an open challenger, given that we are in an economic crisis. And Johnson can't sack him for the same reason and many others. So, no doubt we'll see more of this ^ from sunak in the next few days. Suspect he'll be slyly promoting his credentials as a scandal free teetotaller as well.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Spiked cultist Munira Mirza has quit as Johnson's policy adviser, apparently because she thinks his Jimmy Saville taunts to renegade revisionist Starmer are beyond the pale. Given all this shit Johnson has pulled, presumably that's a bullshit reason and she just thinks he's toast.

 

[Badgers]

Spiked cultist Munira Mirza has quit as Johnson's policy adviser, apparently because she thinks his Jimmy Saville taunts to renegade revisionist Starmer are beyond the pale. Given all this shit Johnson has pulled, presumably that's a bullshit reason and she just thinks he's toast.

 

[Wilf]

It's almost as if there's an interconnected ruling elite!

 

[Wilf]

IN terms of the remaining johnson loyalists, I wonder what it will take for dorries to jump ship? Even if he robbed her life savings, she's still visit him in prison.

 

[elbows]

13:13 entry on the BBC live updates page wonders if its just a question of when, not if, in terms of reaching 54 letters.

Ends with this:

And some of the 'give him enough rope' collection of ministers and ex ministers know that more co-ordination is needed if the party isn't simply to sleepwalk in to a confidence vote.

But it's not impossible more people follow an MP who tells me he will not publicly declare that he has submitted a no confidence letter.

While he has no particular animus to the PM, he has simply run out of patience and fears delay will just make matters worse.

And a former No 10 insider felt that MPs, if faced with a choice of voting "no confidence" quicker than they had anticipated or keeping Johnson in No 10 for another year, (as the rules state if he wins that vote) then putsch might come to shove.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-60256680

 

[existentialist]

IN terms of the remaining johnson loyalists, I wonder what it will take for dorries to jump ship? Even if he robbed her life savings, she's still visit him in prison.

She'll still be calling him "Prime Minister" when he's being shat out of the back of one of Pickman's model's penguins

Not saying she's slow on the uptake, but I hear she's still trying to find the dial on her mobile phone.

 

[andysays]

It's almost as if there's an interconnected ruling elite!

Yeah, I wouldn't want to completely dismiss the idea that Mirza's resignation has been timed in an attempt to benefit someone, but this sort of join-the-dots "analysis" would be rightly dismissed as conspiraloonery in other contexts.

Given the interconnected/nepotistic/incestuous nature of the ruling elite, it would no doubt be possible to pick a few different dots and join them in such a way as to create a completely different picture with just as much credibility as this one.

 

[elbows]

Joining the dots reveals much that is true about the world and events, you just have to pick the right ones and understand the game. Conspiraloons fail because they do neither of those things properly.

Even the BBC are reporting on the various Sunak distancing measures and thinly disguised barbs today, having been a bit cautious about leaping into that narrative yesterday.

 

[Teaboy]

May wasnt voted for by the memberhsip - all the other candiadtes dropped out. Cameron was elected after the tories had got yet another drubbing in 2005 and in the wake of Duncan Smith (chosen by the membership) and Michael howard - unopposed care taker replacement. Cameron was up agasint David Davies and came accross as young, fresh and eurosceptic enough.
Tory members are arguably even more swivile eyed and trumpian now though - so the most batshit of the final two will be there pick. Sunak is nailed on to get to the final two. But if Truss can get there she has a good chance agasint him. Not sure who the ERG style headbangers will endorse as their loon - dont know how they feel about truss - but whoever it is stands a good chance of getting through to the final.

So what? Tory members don't get final say.

 

[andysays]

Joining the dots reveals much that is true about the world and events, you just have to pick the right ones and understand the game. Conspiraloons fail because they do neither of those things properly.

Even the BBC are reporting on the various Sunak distancing measures and thinly disguised barbs today, having been a bit cautious about leaping into that narrative yesterday.

I'd agree that Sunak appears to be making some sort of move, I'm just not as convinced as Badgers' twitter quote appears to be that Mirza's resignation is a central part of it.

 

[andysays]

So what? Tory members don't get final say.

I may have misunderstood this post, but Tory members are certainly supposed to get final say in choosing the new leader, unless, as Kaka Tim says, other candidates drop out before an actual vote.

 

[Wilf]

Yeah, I wouldn't want to completely dismiss the idea that Mirza's resignation has been timed in an attempt to benefit someone, but this sort of join-the-dots "analysis" would be rightly dismissed as conspiraloonery in other contexts.

Given the interconnected/nepotistic/incestuous nature of the ruling elite, it would no doubt be possible to pick a few different dots and join them in such a way as to create a completely different picture with just as much credibility as this one.

Yeah, my take is that there are always personal links and special channels for power, even 'secret' channels. But that always flows from the structural relationships. When you start analysing power purely as 'connections', you leave yourself in a dark corridor at the far end of which lurks David Icke.