PM Boris Johnson - monster thread for a monster twat

[Hermione Jack]

Don't suppose many people want to live in your world

A world that doesn’t describe the leader of a country as a mass murderer because of the people who have died from a virus. Sure...

 

[Pickman's model]

I was pointing that fact out.

What fallacy is that called?

It's called being fucking stupid

 

[Storm Fox]

The comments were satirical, why are people so serious these days? It’s as if you can’t say any thing without something crying out that you are a racist, a sexist, etc.

He married a half-Indian woman.

Even the Daily Mail thinks the marriage was troubling.

Boris Johnson's first wife was left a 'spent force' by their divorce

Boris Johnson and Allegra Mostyn-Owen seemed the perfect match 32 years ago as guests gathered at the bride's family seat Woodhouse, a grade II-listed 1,500 acre estate in Shropshire.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Allegra was a 'butterfly broken by her divorce': As troubling claims emerge about Boris' first marriage - which began with Johnson arriving for the service without his trousers - friends say socialite wife was left a 'spent force'​

• Pair married in Woodhouse, a grade II-listed 1,500 acre estate in Shropshire
• Omens did not bode well - he arrived for his own wedding without his trousers
• Marriage lasted six years, and Allegra Mostyn-Owen said they are better as exes

 

[steveo87]

For those who think that he shouldn’t receive any credit for the vaccine rollout because he himself didn’t personally rollout the vaccines should also believe that Winston Churchill shouldn’t receive any credit for Britain’s help in defeating the Nazis because he wasn’t involved in the warfare himself. And, by the same logic, Churchill should be responsible for all of the deaths of British soldiers because he could have chosen not to fight the war.

I take it back, with mad posts like that, you've really never been here before!!!

 

[Hermione Jack]

I’ve noticed that not a single person has actually addressed the points I made in my first post on this thread. Instead I have had abuse after abuse and more drivel about Boris Johnson.

I’ll try again...

How can you blame a man to be responsible for a virus and situations that are unprecedented? It doesn’t matter what angle you look at it from, he is in a difficult position.

Considering how far as a country we have come from with regard to how many people are dying daily from the virus, why should Boris Johnson not receive any credit? His decisions - the lockdowns and the vaccine rollout.

Some people seem unable to accept the fact that because he is the PM that he should receive credit for the vaccine rollout which he has received from both voters and MPs.

 

[Hermione Jack]

I take it back, with mad posts like that, you've really never been here before!!!

I have not been on this forum before.

Do people just enjoy taking the piss or what?

 

[Pickman's model]

I have not been on this forum before.

Do people just enjoy taking the piss or what?

You certainly do

 

[Hermione Jack]

It's called being fucking stupid

No fallacy then.

But that’s a fallacy right there... an ad hominem.

You really are the gift that keeps on giving.

 

[Dystopiary]

Jesus.

He can't be misogynist either, cos misogynists never marry women.

 

[steveo87]

The NHS has the mechanisms in place to handle a roll out of mass vaccinations. They do it every year with the flu jab.

The vaccine itself, all of its various types, have been developed by a number of nongovernmental organisations and companies.

When Covid 19 became a 'thing', he didn't attend 5 meetings.
In fact he went in Holiday.
He also said the phrase 'bodies piled in the street' or words to that effect.

To say he was key in the 'success' of the vaccine roll out, is like (and I'm bringing football up again) that I had a hand in Liverpool winning the league the season before last ( ) because I support them.

 

[two sheds]

He can't be misogynist either, cos misogynists never marry women.

He's married several and had affairs with several others so DEFINITELY not misogynist

 

[steveo87]

I have not been on this forum before.

Do people just enjoy taking the piss or what?

"Look there's a [largely] left leaning Internet forum, I'm going to go on there and get people annoyed!"

 

[Storm Fox]

I’ve noticed that not a single person has actually addressed the points I made in my first post on this thread. Instead I have had abuse after abuse and more drivel about Boris Johnson.

I’ll try again...

How can you blame a man to be responsible for a virus and situations that are unprecedented? It doesn’t matter what angle you look at it from, he is in a difficult position.

Considering how far as a country we have come from with regard to how many people are dying daily from the virus, why should Boris Johnson not receive any credit? His decisions - the lockdowns and the vaccine rollout.

Some people seem unable to accept the fact that because he is the PM that he should receive credit for the vaccine rollout which he has received from both voters and MPs.

Why doesn’t he deserve any credit for it when he is the PM?


Nice scaremongering, but you are full of shit.

He is the leader of the country so he deserves credit for it.

By your logic (or rather lack of quite frankly), Winston Churchill doesn’t deserve any credit for the Allies victory in WW2.

What utter rubbish.

Well, I get those on the left need a scapegoat.

So why is no politician calling him a mass murderer?

Only in the minds of the lefties who want to blame him for everything is he such one. So it goes in la-la land.

No double standards here

 

[not-bono-ever]

Churchill was a mass murderer as well

 

[Pickman's model]

No fallacy then.

But that’s a fallacy right there... an ad hominem.

You really are the gift that keeps on giving.

What's a phallacy is you saying someone who isn't racist to someone of one ethnicity can't be prejudiced to someone of another ethnicity. It makes you look like a prick (hence the term phallacy)

 

[Pickman's model]

Churchill was a mass murderer as well

Gallipolli
Bengal
The blood of millions on his hands

 

[Dystopiary]

Remember when he deliberately gave himself the Covid by shaking hands with loads of people, and encouraged others to do the same?

 

[Hermione Jack]

"Look there's a [largely] left leaning Internet forum, I'm going to go on there and get people annoyed!"

I didn’t know what people’s political views were on this forum. I am left to centre politically and many of my friends are lefties, but they don’t go on like this...

No double standards here

After how many pages of abuse? After replying to abuse aimed at me.

Churchill was a mass murderer as well

He was not.

What's a phallacy is you saying someone who isn't racist to someone of one ethnicity can't be prejudiced to someone of another ethnicity. It makes you look like a prick (hence the term phallacy)

What is a “phallacy”? I pointed out that his ex-wife is half-Indian, he also had Jewish and Turkish ancestors.

 

[agricola]

I’ve noticed that not a single person has actually addressed the points I made in my first post on this thread. Instead I have had abuse after abuse and more drivel about Boris Johnson.

I’ll try again...

How can you blame a man to be responsible for a virus and situations that are unprecedented? It doesn’t matter what angle you look at it from, he is in a difficult position.

Considering how far as a country we have come from with regard to how many people are dying daily from the virus, why should Boris Johnson not receive any credit? His decisions - the lockdowns and the vaccine rollout.

Some people seem unable to accept the fact that because he is the PM that he should receive credit for the vaccine rollout which he has received from both voters and MPs.

They aren't unprecedented. A pandemic was joint top of the national risk register, at the same level as terrorist attacks - it was predicted to happen, and we (the country) have had reminders on a fairly regular basis of the dangers of pandemic disease. He heads the government, and has to carry the can for the lamentable and costly (in lives and economic terms) response, just as May, Cameron, Brown and Blair do (probably Major and Thatcher as well, though you have to draw a line somewhere) for the state of public health that caused so many deaths. Trying to defend him is exactly the same as trying to defend Chamberlain or Baldwin.

What is even worse is that there is very little evidence that he has actually learned from this pandemic either, given how he right now is repeating exactly the same mistakes he made between January and March 2020, and in the autumn of 2020.

 

[Hermione Jack]

Remember when he deliberately gave himself the Covid by shaking hands with loads of people, and encouraged others to do the same?

Do you have any evidence that he caught Covid-19 by shaking people’s hands?

 

[glitch hiker]

Check the following website out:

Delta variant: Fact-checking claims about Covid and borders

Claims about whether the UK border policy contributed to the spread of the Delta Covid variant dominated Prime Minister's Questions.

www.bbc.com

This is irrelevant because the delta variant clearly reached Britain. Obvoiusly through travel, directly or indirectly.

The government did nothing and indeed wanted to travel there to do a deal with India's horrendous PM, all motivated to score big for Brexit. So it wasn't even a process for our benefit

 

[glitch hiker]

I admire your tenacity, but this individual is a trolling golf ball. 'Better value elsewhere'.

I don't mind.

Others may feel differently

 

[glitch hiker]

Do you have any evidence that he caught Covid-19 by shaking people’s hands?

The point about shaking hands isn't specific; it's to point out he ignored social distancing and triviliased the seriousness of the virus to his own detriment (and thousands of others).

 

[Hermione Jack]

They aren't unprecedented. A pandemic was joint top of the national risk register, at the same level as terrorist attacks - it was predicted to happen, and we (the country) have had reminders on a fairly regular basis of the dangers of pandemic disease. He heads the government, and has to carry the can for the lamentable and costly (in lives and economic terms) response, just as May, Cameron, Brown and Blair do (probably Major and Thatcher as well, though you have to draw a line somewhere) for the state of public health that caused so many deaths. Trying to defend him is exactly the same as trying to defend Chamberlain or Baldwin.

What is even worse is that there is very little evidence that he has actually learned from this pandemic either, given how he right now is repeating exactly the same mistakes he made between January and March 2020, and in the autumn of 2020.

The Covid-19 pandemic has brought about unprecedented challenges and for societies.

When was the last time the NHS was under so much pressure?

How many people caught Covid-19 and unfortunately died because they didn’t distance themselves from others, did not wear face masks, etc? (I’m not expecting you to answer this question, I am pointing out how complex it is at assessing specifically who should be blamed for Covid-19 deaths).

What are the same mistakes he is continuing to make? What should he be doing differently?

 

[Hermione Jack]

The point about shaking hands isn't specific; it's to point out he ignored social distancing and triviliased the seriousness of the virus to his own detriment (and thousands of others).

Again, stop lying.

“Remember when he deliberately gave himself the Covid by shaking hands with loads of people.” - that is implying he caught Covid-19 by shaking people’s hands.

He ignored on the same day what some people at Sage advised people not to do. There’s no evidence he continued to ignore what the experts were warning people not to do.

 

[two sheds]

Do you have any evidence that he caught Covid-19 by shaking people’s hands?

Do you deny that this happened?

No 10’s scientific advisers warned that the government should tell people not to shake hands on the same day that Boris Johnson boasted about doing so “with everybody” at a hospital where there were confirmed coronavirus patients.

 

[Pickman's model]

What is a “phallacy”? I pointed out that his ex-wife is half-Indian, he also had Jewish and Turkish ancestors.

You say that as though it had some bearing on his racism. It doesn't. So shut the fuck up about it because you're being really fucking boring

 

[glitch hiker]

Again, stop lying.

“Remember when he deliberately gave himself the Covid by shaking hands with loads of people.” - that is implying he caught Covid-19 by shaking people’s hands.

He ignored on the same day what some people at Sage advised people not to do. There’s no evidence he continued to ignore what the experts were warning people not to do.

You've inferred intent on my part that you have no business doing. You are in no position to accuse me of lying.

The evidence is that he, Hancock and Cummings, got the virus. So evidently he didn't take adequate precaustions and stated that as policy "taking it on the chin"

You are welcome to respond, but I won't be bothering if you accuse me of lying.

 

[Hermione Jack]

Again, stop lying.

“Remember when he deliberately gave himself the Covid by shaking hands with loads of people.” - that is implying he caught Covid-19 by shaking people’s hands.

He ignored on the same day what some people at Sage advised people not to do. There’s no evidence he continued to ignore what the experts were warning people not to do.

You’re either trolling or ignoring what the article states about the Delta variant.

Wow, are you still whining about Brexit? Yawn, yawn, yawn...

 

[Storm Fox]

The Covid-19 pandemic has brought about unprecedented challenges and for societies.

When was the last time the NHS was under so much pressure?

How many people caught Covid-19 and unfortunately died because they didn’t distance themselves from others, did not wear face masks, etc? (I’m not expecting you to answer this question, I am pointing out how complex it is at assessing specifically who should be blamed for Covid-19 deaths).

What are the same mistakes he is continuing to make? What should he be doing differently?

But the govt didn't mandate face masks until the 24th July Face coverings to be mandatory in shops and supermarkets from 24 July

So you agree the government was late in mandating facemasks?