PM Boris Johnson - monster thread for a monster twat

[glitch hiker]

Of course he does, he is the PM.

I don't respect the man just because he's PM, and I don't respect the man.

Who could do a better job?

Jeremy Corbyn IMO would undoubtedly have handled this better. Listening to the scientists and the WHO would have been a good start. Not ducking FIVE cobra meetings to go on holiday with your latest girlfriend before returning home to tell everyone to shake hands and proceed to almost die as a result.

However the question is irrelevant. It's not necessary to point a better candidate in order to establish how shit the incumbent is.

What needs to be done differently?

The only practical positoin at this point is the removal of this government, which I conecde is deeply unlikely. However the Tories are never ever going to do things differently, nor will they ever get a grip on this. So unless the vacccines really do break the chain and there aren't a stream of new variants to contend with, we're fucked.

Mismanagement was bound to happen no matter who was the PM at the start of the pandemic. As I said, we are in unprecedented times.

Mismanagement is a few rough decisions. It isn't continually lining the pockets of your mates at the public's expense while nurses have to wear bin bags. It isn't filling care homes with covid patients. It isn't repeatedly failing to set up a working test system, the only defence against this pandemic. It isn't sending kids to schools to spread the damn virus while tweeting about how outrageous it is that some sixth formers want to remove a poster of a rich old lady. It isn't refusing to work with allies who offered help. It isn't pursuing a ruinous xenophobic political agenda while all the above is happening.

Which “previous policies” weakened the NHS? Please be specific.

The Health and Social Care Act of 2012

No one could have prepared the public for something that is unprecedented. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Boris Johnson has admitted that he has made mistakes. Everyone makes mistakes, it is called being a human.

Operation Cygnus was conducted in 2018 (or was it 2016) for precisely this event

Boris hasn't admitted anything. It's just words, performative. He means none of it. He's a fucking self absorbed clown who ruffles his hair when things don't go his way. He expects everything and everyone to do his thinking and solve his problems for him. He doesn't care about other people. he is the worst person at the worst time to lead what is rapdily becoming the worst country.

And he's surrounded by other vile human beings.

Hi, nice to meet you

 

[Hermione Jack]

wasn't considered a concern by whom - the people who placed it on the red list perhaps. Proof that nobody considered it a concern before then. Please be specific.

The people who advise the government.

What? Is that all you've got? Lame. He might like to take credit for it but the rollout was a success in spite of Johnson and the vermin in general who have deliberately sought to underfund the NHS thus making the case for privatisation.

How is it lame? He is the PM so it’s thanks to him that we managed to get the rollout.

How on earth is it in spite of him?

Cause he's a horrible lying little cunt.

That’s just personally attacking him, thus no argument.

That says more about you than Boris Johnson.

My left nut could do a better job than that pointless shitstain.

So how come his position as PM has never been challenged by any other politician?

I’ll tell you why - because most people realise that it doesn’t matter who would be in charge during a pandemic that mistakes are going to happen.

No of course not - bit of a strawman eh? Please check through the many threads/posts on urban that showed what people believed and when. Then come back and tell us that nobody could have known/done any better than Johnson.

The government advises people. What about the people who refuse to wear masks, socially distance, etc?

 

[glitch hiker]

The Delta variant wasn’t considered a concern until after India was placed on to the red list.

India was raging at the time Boris decided he wanted to travel there. It was obvious that travelling was dangerous. To say nothing of allowing mass international travel throughout this pandemic on an island.

 

[teqniq]

The Delta variant wasn’t considered a concern until after India was placed on to the red list.

This is actually a lie. Healthcare professionals were raising the alarm regarding the Delta variant quite some time before India was placed on the Red list and it is now widely believed it should have been placed on the list 2-3 weeks before it was. The cynical amongst us have observed that the only reason it wasn't was because of Johnson's wish for a photo-op in India signing a trade deal something which came to naught in the end anyway.

 

[teqniq]

How is it lame? He is the PM so it’s thanks to him that we managed to get the rollout.

Oh rly? You absolute clown. i see where you're going with this... repeat 'He is the PM' ad nauseam to any and all arguments to the contrary. 0/10

 

[Argonia]

That fucking criminal and tyrant Alexander Boris De Pfeffel Johnson is sleepwalking us into a war with Putin. He's got to go - right now.

 

[Hermione Jack]

I don't respect the man just because he's PM, and I don't respect the man.

Jeremy Corbyn IMO would undoubtedly have handled this better. Listening to the scientists and the WHO would have been a good start. Not ducking FIVE cobra meetings to go on holiday with your latest girlfriend before returning home to tell everyone to shake hands and proceed to almost die as a result.

However the question is irrelevant. It's not necessary to point a better candidate in order to establish how shit the incumbent is.


The only practical positoin at this point is the removal of this government, which I conecde is deeply unlikely. However the Tories are never ever going to do things differently, nor will they ever get a grip on this. So unless the vacccines really do break the chain and there aren't a stream of new variants to contend with, we're fucked.

Mismanagement is a few rough decisions. It isn't continually lining the pockets of your mates at the public's expense while nurses have to wear bin bags. It isn't filling care homes with covid patients. It isn't repeatedly failing to set up a working test system, the only defence against this pandemic. It isn't sending kids to schools to spread the damn virus while tweeting about how outrageous it is that some sixth formers want to remove a poster of a rich old lady. It isn't refusing to work with allies who offered help. It isn't pursuing a ruinous xenophobic political agenda while all the above is happening.


The Health and Social Care Act of 2012

Operation Cygnus was conducted in 2018 (or was it 2016) for precisely this event

Boris hasn't admitted anything. It's just words, performative. He means none of it. He's a fucking self absorbed clown who ruffles his hair when things don't go his way. He expects everything and everyone to do his thinking and solve his problems for him. He doesn't care about other people. he is the worst person at the worst time to lead what is rapdily becoming the worst country.

And he's surrounded by other vile human beings.

Hi, nice to meet you

I never said any thing about respecting Boris Johnson because he’s the PM. I said that he deserves credit for the vaccine rollout.

Are you seriously having a laugh about Jeremy Corbyn would probably have handled the pandemic better? I want to pay the compliment of hoping that you’re just taking the piss. Corbyn is an absolute moron, he couldn’t even make up his mind on Brexit... he couldn’t handle any thing apart from causing the Labour Party to suffer its worst election defeat since 1935 and for public opinion of the party to change drastically which resulted in Boris Johnson getting a clear majority.

The reason why the “removal” as you call it of the Tories is unlikely to happen is because most people are aware of how extremely difficult the situation is for the government and it’s not specifically a party’s policies that are causing the deaths. Hopefully the vaccines will sort this mess out and then we’ll be able to see Boris Johnson as the PM outside of a pandemic and see what he can do for the country.

Where were the patients supposed to go when the hospitals were full?

They tried their best at setting up a track and trace system. They admitted it had faults and sought to improve it. What’s to say that people would self-isolate themselves anyway?

Children aren’t considered a high risk. What about the education aspect? What about the socialising aspect?

Which allies did the government refuse to work with when it came to combating the pandemic?

What political agenda is the government pursuing that is ruinous and xenophobic?

What about the Act precisely?

Boris Johnson’s image is deliberately done, so what?

What you think about him is clearly not what the vast majority of British people who voted in the last general election thought of him. And, considering in local elections that were notoriously always Labour the Tories won clearly proves that most people don’t have a problem with him.

You should spend less time personally attacking people which really just shows you have no argument and instead focus on specific points that you wish to criticise.

Nice to meet you too.

 

[Pickman's model]

I never said any thing about respecting Boris Johnson because he’s the PM. I said that he deserves credit for the vaccine rollout.

Are you seriously having a laugh about Jeremy Corbyn would probably have handled the pandemic better? I want to pay the compliment of hoping that you’re just taking the piss. Corbyn is an absolute moron, he couldn’t even make up his mind on Brexit... he couldn’t handle any thing apart from causing the Labour Party to suffer its worst election defeat since 1935 and for public opinion of the party to change drastically which resulted in Boris Johnson getting a clear majority.

The reason why the “removal” as you call it of the Tories is unlikely to happen is because most people are aware of how extremely difficult the situation is for the government and it’s not specifically a party’s policies that are causing the deaths. Hopefully the vaccines will sort this mess out and then we’ll be able to see Boris Johnson as the PM outside of a pandemic and see what he can do for the country.

Where were the patients supposed to go when the hospitals were full?

They tried their best at setting up a track and trace system. They admitted it had faults and sought to improve it. What’s to say that people would self-isolate themselves anyway?

Children aren’t considered a high risk. What about the education aspect? What about the socialising aspect?

Which allies did the government refuse to work with when it came to combating the pandemic?

What political agenda is the government pursuing that is ruinous and xenophobic?

What about the Act precisely?

Boris Johnson’s image is deliberately done, so what?

What you think about him is clearly not what the vast majority of British people who voted in the last general election thought of him. And, considering in local elections that were notoriously always Labour the Tories won clearly proves that most people don’t have a problem with him.

You should spend less time personally attacking people which really just shows you have no argument and instead focus on specific points that you wish to criticise.

Nice to meet you too.

Auld corbs still got more votes than labour in 2005, '10 and '15

 

[Hermione Jack]

India was raging at the time Boris decided he wanted to travel there. It was obvious that travelling was dangerous. To say nothing of allowing mass international travel throughout this pandemic on an island.

This is actually a lie. Healthcare professionals were raising the alarm regarding the Delta variant quite some time before India was placed on the Red list and it is now widely believed it should have been placed on the list 2-3 weeks before it was. The cynical amongst us have observed that the only reason it wasn't was because of Johnson's wish for a photo-op in India signing a trade deal something which came to naught in the end anyway.

Check the following website out:

Delta variant: Fact-checking claims about Covid and borders

Claims about whether the UK border policy contributed to the spread of the Delta Covid variant dominated Prime Minister's Questions.

www.bbc.com

 

[Hermione Jack]

Oh rly? You absolute clown. i see where you're going with this... repeat 'He is the PM' ad nauseam to any and all arguments to the contrary. 0/10

Why doesn’t he deserve any credit for it when he is the PM?

That fucking criminal and tyrant Alexander Boris De Pfeffel Johnson is sleepwalking us into a war with Putin. He's got to go - right now.

Nice scaremongering, but you are full of shit.

 

[two sheds]

Why doesn’t he deserve any credit for it when he is the PM?

Why doesn't he deserve any credit for the 160,000+ plus dead? You ignored that by pretending I'd said he was responsible for all of them. Of course he isn't, but he's responsible for a lot of them - can you not see that?

 

[Argonia]

Why doesn’t he deserve any credit for it when he is the PM?


Nice scaremongering, but you are full of shit.

You can die a horrible death in the new Crimerian war if you choose but I won't be there and nor will millions of others.

 

[maomao]

What you think about him is clearly not what the vast majority of British people who voted in the last general election thought of him.

43.6% is not a 'vast majority'. Especially not of a 67% turnout. I'm pretty sure the vast majority of the country think he's a cunt. And he is a cunt. The kind of cunt who fucks someone twenty years younger while his wife's being treated for cancer. A proper nasty horrible lying cunt.

 

[teqniq]

Why doesn’t he deserve any credit for it when he is the PM?

Fucking yawn. I have already answered this. See PM Boris Johnson - monster thread for a monster twat

 

[equationgirl]

Hermione Jack I strongly recommend you go away and read at least this thread from the start, followed by the pandemic threads.

The man you think deserves credit has the blood of hundreds of thousands of people on his hands. That's not mismanagement, that's mass murder.

 

[2hats]

Why doesn't he deserve any credit for the 160,000+ plus dead? You ignored that by pretending I'd said he was responsible for all of them. Of course he isn't, but he's responsible for a lot of them - can you not see that?

Don't forget those killed abroad as the liar and charlatan, that is Britain's most prolific serial killer, has casually exported this virus throughout the pandemic.

 

[two sheds]

Against stiff Blair-like competition

 

[Hermione Jack]

Why doesn't he deserve any credit for the 160,000+ plus dead? You ignored that by pretending I'd said he was responsible for all of them. Of course he isn't, but he's responsible for a lot of them - can you not see that?

I don’t think so. He hasn’t done anything which deliberately tried to kill anyone and it’s difficult to try and balance the economy with lockdowns, etc.

You can die a horrible death in the new Crimerian war if you choose but I won't be there and nor will millions of others.

Except that’s never going to happen so stop daydreaming.

43.6% is not a 'vast majority'. Especially not of a 67% turnout. I'm pretty sure the vast majority of the country think he's a cunt. And he is a cunt. The kind of cunt who fucks someone twenty years younger while his wife's being treated for cancer. A proper nasty horrible lying cunt.

He won with a clear majority so suck it up, buttercup.

Do they? Only moaning lefties AFAIK.

Whilst not condoning what he has done, why does his personal life make any difference to you?

 

[Hermione Jack]

Fucking yawn. I have already answered this. See PM Boris Johnson - monster thread for a monster twat

He is the leader of the country so he deserves credit for it.

By your logic (or rather lack of quite frankly), Winston Churchill doesn’t deserve any credit for the Allies victory in WW2.

Hermione Jack I strongly recommend you go away and read at least this thread from the start, followed by the pandemic threads.

The man you think deserves credit has the blood of hundreds of thousands of people on his hands. That's not mismanagement, that's mass murder.

What utter rubbish.

Well, I get those on the left need a scapegoat.

 

[maomao]

why does his personal life make any difference to you?

It's not the number or nature of his partners that concerns me, it's the probity with which he conducts himself. I'd happily burn the palace of Westminster down with all 600-odd of them inside but it confuses me that of all the people that could have been picked to lead the Tory party you all plumped for the worst specimen of humanity available. Why would you trust someone to run the country who can't even manage simple loyalty to family? He's a bad person. You are the bad guys.

 

[Argonia]

Hermione Jack I strongly recommend you go away and read at least this thread from the start, followed by the pandemic threads.

The man you think deserves credit has the blood of hundreds of thousands of people on his hands. That's not mismanagement, that's mass murder.

Well said equationgirl

 

[Storm Fox]

I don’t think so. He hasn’t done anything which deliberately tried to kill anyone and it’s difficult to try and balance the economy with lockdowns, etc.


Except that’s never going to happen so stop daydreaming.

He won with a clear majority so suck it up, buttercup.

Do they? Only moaning lefties AFAIK.

Whilst not condoning what he has done, why does his personal life make any difference to you?

And you have no problems with him being racist?

Boris Johnson called gay men 'tank-topped bumboys' and black people 'piccaninnies' with 'watermelon smiles'

UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson has a long record of making offensive comments about women, ethnic minorities and gay people.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[Sue]

Obvious troll is obvious.

 

[Pickman's model]

Whilst not condoning what he has done, why does his personal life make any difference to you?

If you can't trust a man to be honest about how many children he has how can you trust him to be honest about anything?

 

[Pickman's model]

Obvious troll is obvious.

Like an old prison bucket Hermione Jack is full of shit

 

[Hermione Jack]

Well said equationgirl

So why is no politician calling him a mass murderer?

Only in the minds of the lefties who want to blame him for everything is he such one. So it goes in la-la land.

 

[steveo87]

Imagine waking up this morning and thinking 'I'm going to rejoin Urban, under a new username, and be an arsenal. That'll be productive."

Anyway, Johnson is still an arse, was an arse when he was younger, and will still be an arse in the years to come.
The issue is wankers still vote for him, because he can bizarrely pull the 'man of the people' shtick and people fucking believe it.

 

[Espresso]

But, every country is different. It’s a false analogy to compare this country to other countries.

Why is it?
What do you think makes us incomparable?

 

[existentialist]

Like an old prison bucket Hermione Jack is full of shit

And, like an old prison bucket, it leaks...

 

[Pickman's model]

Why is it?
What do you think makes us incomparable?

We have an incomparable liar as head of government and a lizard as head of state