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2hats said:
Clue: The ONS publish data for England and Wales.
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As you wont spell it out yourself allow me :- Implicit in your view is an assumption that up to 28,000 covid deaths are required to reach your -"We are pretty much there minus a wafer" level, ie 100k deaths - so how many dead from Covid in NI and Scotland (ie NOT England and Wales) in fact? Just over 5,000 between the pair. Still 20+k short. A "Wafer"? Sorry mate, if you are going be so useless with it, giving smugly pompous observations based on poor mathematical skills, leave the Stats to people who can count
 
teuchter said:
You have to add in the numbers for Scotland and NI too.
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I know, just wanted him to say that, then see what it implied. To reach his assumed figure he needed 25k dead in Scotland, around 3k in NI. - well whatever you do, dont take any maths advice from this soutce
 
equationgirl said:
The 78k figure is 72k deaths England and Wales +6k deaths Scotland and Northern Ireland
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Bizarrely thats exactly my point - position stated was that we were a "wafer" away form the 100K modelling - the date for the figure of 78k was said to be 2 weeks ago, instead of the factual 2 days, and a very wafty, well another few thousand will have gone by now, we'll get there any minute,etc. Point is, if you are going to sarcastically critique another, get it right - a deliberate inflation of 17.94% - yeah, I'm grumpy cos he/she took the piss and was EVEN more sloppy and cavalier with facts than I !!!! Astonishing...
 
hipipol said:
Bizarrely thats exactly my point - position stated was that we were a "wafer" away form the 100K modelling - the date for the figure of 78k was said to be 2 weeks ago, instead of the factual 2 days, and a very wafty, well another few thousand will have gone by now, we'll get there any minute,etc. Point is, if you are going to sarcastically critique another, get it right - a deliberate inflation of 17.94% - yeah, I'm grumpy cos he/she took the piss and was EVEN more sloppy and cavalier with facts than I !!!! Astonishing...
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When we have more/longer/stronger periods of restrictions than those baked into particular modelling exercises, I never understand why people think that means the model failed when real numbers fail to reach the heights shown by the models. We had national restrictions in November! We can see the curves shown in graphs and which way they were heading if interventions hadnt happened.

As for your original point, its true that the government and others such as the Welsh administration are making the most of the new variant by using it as an excuse for all their failings in this second wave. But I treat that aspect as its own thing, entirely separate from the actual implications and effects of the new variant strain. I can be plenty cynical about the politicians and the use of this stuff without letting such things rub off on my judgement about the new strain itself. The true implications of the new strain should become somewhat clearer in future than they are today, although there will still be some blurring between the impact of the mutations and the other failures of governance in the second wave, and indeed the effects of winter/winter human behaviour.
 
Yes, now I look properly I see something lower than a drunk tapeworm living in the arse of an abyssal viperfish

S☼I said:
It's absolutely fucking criminal how slow of thought and deed these ghouls in charge are. They've caused huge amounts of stress to pupils, parents and educators alike for fuck-all when a drunk tapeworm living in the arse of an abyssal viperfish could see weeks ago what should and shouldn't be done. I genuinely despise them for doing this to us.
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No Boris, you've been on that swing long enough. It's time to let another spoilt little shit have a go on it.
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I knew I'd seen that facial expression somewhere before. Needs more mutton chops - he was mayor of London FFS!
 
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