PM Boris Johnson - monster thread for a monster twat

[Sprocket.]

Looks like he’s headed the way of Boris Yeltsin.

 

[gentlegreen]

Spend the rest of his life jogging round Buckingham Palace grounds

A son Liz never had - perhaps he'll keep Andrew company ...

 

[phillm]

Looks like he’s headed the way of Boris Yeltsin.

Problem is after Yeltsin it's Putin.

 

[Pickman's model]

Looks like he’s headed the way of Boris Yeltsin.

Yeltsin would never have written a book which claimed the Germans won at stalingrad

 

[Pickman's model]

Problem is after Yeltsin it's Putin.

Pissed Boris Yeltsin far more capable than Boris Johnson, eg by a better conductor than bj

 

[Pickman's model]

Spend the rest of his life jogging round Buckingham Palace grounds

Urged on by pokes with sticks. He'd be dead within 12 hours.

 

[two sheds]

Urged on by pokes with sticks. He'd be dead within 12 hours.

Through the railings, charge people, it could become a tourist attraction

 

[phillm]

Yeltsin would never have written a book which claimed the Germans won at stalingrad

Crikey - how the actual fuck did we end up here ?

The Churchill Factor was so full of inaccuracies that it quickly got a response from Richard J. Evans, a professor of history at the University of Cambridge. He listed many of the lies and distortions made throughout the book including, for instance, glossing over Churchill’s support for European unity. However, some of the unintended mistakes are arguably worse. For someone claiming to be a historian and who feels educated enough to write a book on Churchill, he makes some claims which are wildly inaccurate. Notably, he claims that the Germans captured Stalingrad, the city which they famously failed to conquer (losing about 800,000 Axis troops), and which turned the tide of the war against them. This is a mistake so glaring that it is remarkable the book was published as is.

Boris never bothers to weigh up opposing arguments. Rather than engage, he just insults people in strange ways, taking the attention off the actual debate and on to whatever he just said. A good example of this is “Stilton-eating surrender monkeys”. This would be one thing in an informal discussion, quite another when he claims this is a legitimate book on history. Instead, the attention is entirely focused around himself. At first glance, it is notable that every one of his books is published with his face on the front cover. His vanity is also displayed in the introduction to his book ostensibly about Churchill, where he refers to himself 30 times. Sonia Purnell, journalist and author of a biography on Johnson, argued this book “says perhaps less about Churchill than it does about the ambition and self-image of Boris”.

Boris Johnson's distorted view of the world is disturbing - Backbench

Many people do not realise that Boris Johnson (Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson), as well as being a career politician, has dabbled in being a historian. He has published several books, most recently The Churchill Factor in 2014. His books, as has been frequently pointed out by critics, are...

www.bbench.co.uk

 

[Sprocket.]

Yeltsin would never have written a book which claimed the Germans won at stalingrad

Or if I remember correctly that Churchill invented the Tank and the RAF.

 

[gentlegreen]

I know this is a daft question, but is there a single Tory MP who might actually be up to running the country ?

 

[phillm]

I know this is a daft question, but is there a single Tory MP who might actually be up to running the country ?

Pin the tail on the donkey? LARRY! Easy to see whose been furloughed here - about 80% of them.

 

[ruffneck23]

I know this is a daft question, but is there a single Tory MP who might actually be up to running the country ?

Cant see any myself..

 

[Pickman's model]

I know this is a daft question, but is there a single Tory MP who might actually be up to running the country ?

Stephen milligan
Ian gow
Airey neave

On the grounds that the only good tory mp is...

 

[frogwoman]

Why's he clinging to Cummings like a limpet then? What's the actual story behind that?

 

[FiFi]

Why's he clinging to Cummings like a limpet then? What's the actual story behind that?

When the papers are released in 30 years time, it will be interesting to find out.

 

[gentlegreen]

Crikey - how the actual fuck did we end up here ?

Boris Johnson's distorted view of the world is disturbing - Backbench

Many people do not realise that Boris Johnson (Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson), as well as being a career politician, has dabbled in being a historian. He has published several books, most recently The Churchill Factor in 2014. His books, as has been frequently pointed out by critics, are...

www.bbench.co.uk

I wonder what he was planning to do to Shakespeare ....

 

[existentialist]

Why's he clinging to Cummings like a limpet then? What's the actual story behind that?

Because I think he knows, at some level in what passes for his consciousness, that he can't manage without Cummings. I suspect that's partly at least because Cummings will have gone to some trouble to make sure he believes that, because it will have made Cummings feel indispensible...and I strongly suspect that's an important thing for Cummings.

 

[phillm]

Because I think he knows, at some level in what passes for his consciousness, that he can't manage without Cummings. I suspect that's partly at least because Cummings will have gone to some trouble to make sure he believes that, because it will have made Cummings feel indispensible...and I strongly suspect that's an important thing for Cummings.

When he was Eton he no doubt paid a swot (Cameron !) to do his homework to save him having to put in the hours whilst holding court to his 'court' of sycophants and jousters.

 

[frogwoman]

Because I think he knows, at some level in what passes for his consciousness, that he can't manage without Cummings. I suspect that's partly at least because Cummings will have gone to some trouble to make sure he believes that, because it will have made Cummings feel indispensible...and I strongly suspect that's an important thing for Cummings.

What the fuck is he doing as PM then.

 

[existentialist]

What the fuck is he doing as PM then.

I don't believe there is any rule that says the PM has to be competent, just electable. Which opens a whole other can of worms.

 

[phillm]

I wonder what he was planning to do to Shakespeare ....

He likes the classics....

 

[Sprocket.]

He likes the classics....

For whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee bellend.

 

[phillm]

Spend the rest of his life jogging round Buckingham Palace grounds

with a zimmer frame raising money for the NHS.

 

[Roadkill]

When the papers are released in 30 years time, it will be interesting to find out.

Only official papers are subject to the 30-year rule, and that can be extended if they're deemed security-sensitive. I think we can be pretty sure that whatever dodgy dealings have been going on (i.e. in the run-up to the 2016 referendum, last year around prorogation, and so on) have been conducted off the record and outside official channels as far as possible. The release of papers three decades from now will be worth seeing, but I expect it'll be pretty thin gruel.

 

[two sheds]

Only official papers are subject to the 30-year rule, and that can be extended if they're deemed security-sensitive. I think we can be pretty sure that whatever dodgy dealings have been going on (i.e. in the run-up to the 2016 referendum, last year around prorogation, and so on) have been conducted off the record and outside official channels as far as possible. The release of papers three decades from now will be worth seeing, but I expect it'll be pretty thin gruel.

Indeed and a lot of the messages are now auto deleted I understand.

 

[Roadkill]

Indeed and a lot of the messages are now auto deleted I understand.

There'll be rules on retention and deletion of papers and emails in the civil service, though what they are I don't know. But if things are being done through personal email and 'burner' phones (and Gove's claim not to understand that term last year was absurd) then the rules don't apply anyway.

e2a - of course, one of the most interesting questions to which I don't think we'll see an answer any time soon is how much business which according to the rules should have gone through official channels and been documented did not and was not.

 

[agricola]

I wonder what he was planning to do to Shakespeare ....

"Iago is one of the great misunderstood heroes of our literary tradition, and Lady Macbeth was an early pioneer of anti-pandemic measures"

 

[ska invita]

Why's he clinging to Cummings like a limpet then? What's the actual story behind that?

Cummings can claim a lot of credit for the massive wins in the last election and the EU referendum <both huge political victories

 

[William of Walworth]

Crikey - how the actual fuck did we end up here ?
The Churchill Factor was so full of inaccuracies that it quickly got a response from Richard J. Evans, a professor of history at the University of Cambridge. He listed many of the lies and distortions made throughout the book including, for instance, glossing over Churchill’s support for European unity. However, some of the unintended mistakes are arguably worse. For someone claiming to be a historian and who feels educated enough to write a book on Churchill, he makes some claims which are wildly inaccurate. Notably, he claims that the Germans captured Stalingrad, the city which they famously failed to conquer (losing about 800,000 Axis troops), and which turned the tide of the war against them.

Boris Johnson's distorted view of the world is disturbing - Backbench

Many people do not realise that Boris Johnson (Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson), as well as being a career politician, has dabbled in being a historian. He has published several books, most recently The Churchill Factor in 2014. His books, as has been frequently pointed out by critics, are...

www.bbench.co.uk

Prof. Evans -- a genuine historian
It's well worth reading Evans' 2014 review of Johnson's 'book' in The New Statesman -- Roadkill linked to it earlier up this thread I think.
But I'd never seen these from Johnson, highlighted at the end of this bbench article :

Unfortunately, Boris’ distorted views are not confined to academic issues. His twisted view of the world informs his political career. In 2002, shortly before Blair was due to visit Africa, he wrote an article titled ‘Africa is a mess, but we can’t blame colonialism’. Referring to the Scramble for Africa, when European empires (particularly Britain) conquered most of Africa in the years following 1876 and committed innumerable atrocities against the people living there, he had this to say : “The best fate for Africa would be if the old colonial powers, or their citizens, scrambled once again in her direction; on the understanding that this time they will not be asked to feel guilty”. The ignorance in this statement is bewildering.
In his usual style, he dismisses the evidence completely offhand. Between 1690-1807, there was 3 million recorded African slaves transported in British ships alone. Emphasis on ‘recorded’, the real figure is undoubtedly higher. These slaves were branded, beaten, raped, tortured, tied together with dead bodies and sometimes even thrown overboard with their hands and feet bound, so that they would drown, and the slavers could claim their deaths on insurance. This is all before even reaching their destinations. How does Boris tackle this issue in his article? He dismisses, “Are we guilty of slavery? Pshaw”. He even condescendingly refers to Arab slavers, in some meagre attempt to shift the blame for slavery away from Europeans.
David French (The British Way in Counter-Insurgency, 1945-1967) detailed extensive use of torture by the British military. For instance, Jane Mara and three other women held in a detention camp in Kenya. They were beaten and had heated bottles pushed up their vaginas by the boots of British soldiers. This was in the late 1950s, hardly ancient history. Boris’ response when confronted with the atrocities committed by the British is to claim : “The problem is not that we were once in charge, but that we are not in charge any more”

The list of disgusting (also ignorant) things Boris Johnson has said about history that on their own make him unfit to be Prime Minister seems never-ending ..... .
The above Africa-related quotes were all new to me, but hardly surprising, and that's even before you get to 'watermelon smiles'

 

[William of Walworth]

Cummings can claim a lot of credit for the massive wins in the last election and the EU referendum <both huge political victories

As every football fan knows, a player's form or team's winning streak very rarely continues unbroken .....