PM Boris Johnson - monster thread for a monster twat

[MrSki]

5 minutes of greedy blame

5 minutes of promoting a probable book in the pipeline.

 

[Badgers]

He will have a lot of sage advice here

 

[Pickman's model]

He will have a lot of sage advice here

he won't have enough thyme to share everything he knows. for which we should be grateful

 

[Pickman's model]

i'll just leave this here The lies, falsehoods and misrepresentations of Boris Johnson and his government.

 

[Badgers]

i'll just leave this here The lies, falsehoods and misrepresentations of Boris Johnson and his government.

Been after something like this

 

[Supine]

Been after something like this

you might like this then

 

[brogdale]

Caption opportunity...

 

[Buckaroo]

Caption opportunity...

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AW: I think I got away with it.
BJ: Me too!

 

[Artaxerxes]

you might like this then

Literally just quoting a guardian opinion column.

Not exactly in depth here.

 

[maomao]

Caption opportunity...

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There were probably no actual words just a braying noise.

 

[Chilli.s]

you might like this then

BBC upset that they might have to do some investigative journalism rather than read press releases.
Wouldn't want to lose seats on the gravy train.

 

[Pickman's model]

Caption opportunity...

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The animals looked from goat to pig and from pig to goat and back again but no more could they tell the one from the other

 

[andysays]

Looks like Johnson was so excited by his plans to raise NI threshold that he's inadvertently let the cat out of the bag before the manifesto launch

 

[Santino]

Looks like Johnson was so excited by his plans to raise NI threshold that he's inadvertently let the cat out of the bag before the manifesto launch

Is 'NI threshold' a way of re-branding the border with Ireland to give it a fresh, edgy feel?

 

[andysays]

Is 'NI threshold' a way of re-branding the border with Ireland to give it a fresh, edgy feel?

No

 

[Pickman's model]

 

[Pickman's model]

looks like a baby groot is climbing from the bridge of johnson's nose

 

[Proper Tidy]

Tbh raising NI threshold is good, subject to it not meaning low earners aren't getting stamp paid. Obviously the real piss take is that from threshold up to 50k it's a 12% tax then cunts on more than that only pay 2%. Just call it a tax because it is and switch those rates around.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Tbh raising NI threshold is good, subject to it not meaning low earners aren't getting stamp paid. Obviously the real piss take is that from threshold up to 50k it's a 12% tax then cunts on more than that only pay 2%. Just call it a tax because it is and switch those rates around.

TBF it's drops by 10% at around £50k, because income tax goes up by 20% at that point.

 

[Proper Tidy]

TBF it's drops by 10% at around £50k, because income tax goes up by 20% at that point.

Well exactly my point really, tax burden only really goes up by 10%. Fuck that. Earn more, benefit more, pay more.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Well exactly my point really, tax burden only really goes up by 10%. Fuck that. Earn more, benefit more, pay more.

I think a 10% hike at £50k is more than reasonable, I am more concerned that it only goes up another 5% at £150k.

 

[teqniq]

Have we had this yet? Not a shameless plug but I know one of the people in the lineup.

 

[SpineyNorman]

I think a 10% hike at £50k is more than reasonable, I am more concerned that it only goes up another 5% at £150k.

More than reasonable my arse. Should be at least another 20%. They still get the first 50k taxed at the same rate as the rest of us. 50k is more than me and my partner earn between us, both working full time even though we've got a one year old because we can't afford not to. They can fucking afford it. Make them pay for our childcare.

Agree with your second point though, at 150k it should go up to 95%, 75% at 100k and they should be grateful they're not having the lot taken off them.

 

[kabbes]

I think a 10% hike at £50k is more than reasonable, I am more concerned that it only goes up another 5% at £150k.

That’s not really true. There is a loss of the tax free allowance between 100 and 120 (I think), which makes it a bit more complicated. There are also other pension tax changes that kick in at 150, which could be worth nothing or (as is the case with the doctors who now don’t want to do overtime) be worth a large amount.

Anyway, the point is: not enough tax. Best to stick to that rather than the specifics.

Corporation tax is the really undercharged tax item, though.

 

[Proper Tidy]

That’s not really true. There is a loss of the tax free allowance between 100 and 120 (I think), which makes it a bit more complicated. There are also other pension tax changes that kick in at 150, which could be worth nothing or (as is the case with the doctors who now don’t want to do overtime) be worth a large amount.

Anyway, the point is: not enough tax. Best to stick to that rather than the specifics.

Corporation tax is the really undercharged tax item, though.

Yeah personal allowance wiped out after 125k and then tapered allowance on pensions after 150k. Still though, losing 2.5k on first 12.5k not the worst thing in the world when you're pulling in 6.5k net a month and anyway most people pulling that sort of money aren't doing it through paye anyway

 

[William of Walworth]

Have we had this yet? Not a shameless plug but I know one of the people in the lineup.

So do we!

 

[brogdale]

I remember some time ago posting something pretty thoughtless about workers used a photo backdrops for tory campaigning and seventh bullet put me straight and, since then, I've always tried think through the dynamics & pressures that lead to these situations.

That said, the workers of Wilton Engineering Services in Middlesbrough pictured yesterday at Johnson's hi-viz photo op holding/standing with this placard might well find themselves on the cover of any soon to be published tomes on false consciousness.

 

[seventh bullet]

There's a difference between recognising not only what we share but also the very real divisions based on lived experience, as well as the contradictory outlooks of people in the varying strata of the working class (and you know, maybe seeing opportunities within it for intra-class dialogue and action), and just seeing someone usually at the shittest end of it and unconsciously or otherwise blurting out your prejudices about people 'not like you,' based on appearance, occupation, assumed educational level etc. Something the left gets wrong again and again.

 

[brogdale]

There's a difference between recognising not only what we share but also the very real divisions based on lived experience, as well as the contradictory outlooks of people in the varying strata of the working class (and you know, maybe seeing opportunities within it for intra-class dialogue and action), and just seeing someone usually at the shittest end of it and unconsciously or otherwise blurting out your prejudices about people 'not like you,' based on appearance, occupation, assumed educational level etc. Something the left gets wrong again and again.

Something has certainly gone badly wrong.

 

[seventh bullet]

Indeed. Sneers won't help sort it.