Peterborough by-election, 6 June 2019

[cupid_stunt]

She was also texting whilst speeding, what a complete fucking twat.

 

[hash tag]

Shame she lied; she should have been banned and thrown inside for texting while speeding; that would send out a message, hopefully.

 

[kebabking]

Difficult to imagine, if she weren't an MP, that the CPS wouldn't appeal the unduly lenient sentence...

I wonder if the DPP will have the testicular fortitude.

 

[cyril_smear]

She got three months, .

Ha!

 

[andysays]

Sentence being reviewed after complaint it's too lenient

 

[Teaboy]

Its genuinely astonishing that an MP can go to jail and still be an MP. All the huffing and puffing about democracy regarding Brexit and the people of Peterborough have no representative, she cannot attend surgeries and she cannot attend Parliament, yet they are still lumbered with her. Incredible.

One of the reasons her legal team gave for her not standing down is that its her only source of income, oh that's alright then.

Democracy in this country remains a shambles and a sham, its pathetic how we're being lectured on the danger to democracy over various Brexit bollocks.

 

[DotCommunist]

Its genuinely astonishing that an MP can go to jail and still be an MP. All the huffing and puffing about democracy regarding Brexit and the people of Peterborough have no representative, she cannot attend surgeries and she cannot attend Parliament, yet they are still lumbered with her. Incredible.

One of the reasons her legal team gave for her not standing down is that its her only source of income, oh that's alright then.

Democracy in this country remains a shambles and a sham, its pathetic how we're being lectured on the danger to democracy over various Brexit bollocks.

I'd have to check but I'll guess these rules might have been drawn up before we even got the franchise in 1918 which really isn't that long ago. And women still had to wait so universal sufferage is later.

 

[butchersapron]

The one year rule was a response to the successful election of Bobby Sands as an MP.

 

[Teaboy]

I'd have to check but I'll guess these rules might have been drawn up before we even got the franchise in 1918 which really isn't that long ago. And women still had to wait so universal sufferage is later.

I think the recall legislation is really quite recent. I think Goldsmith was the main proponent of it, and I think originally it was intended that it was automatic recall for any jail sentence. Funnily enough it got heavily watered down to where we are now by MP's. Funny that.

 

[Guineveretoo]

I don’t understand how she got a lesser sentence than her brother, who was also convicted. If she was driving and then lied about it, and he just helped her after the event, shouldn’t she get the longer sentence?

 

[killer b]

I don’t understand how she got a lesser sentence than her brother, who was also convicted. If she was driving and then lied about it, and he just helped her after the event, shouldn’t she get the longer sentence?

The judges sentencing comments are here, which include his reasoning for the sentences. I haven't read it all yet, but I imagine your question is answered there.

 

[Ponyutd]

I don’t understand how she got a lesser sentence than her brother, who was also convicted. If she was driving and then lied about it, and he just helped her after the event, shouldn’t she get the longer sentence?

It may be her first offence. Meanwhile her brother done 4 years for robbery.

 

[belboid]

I don’t understand how she got a lesser sentence than her brother, who was also convicted. If she was driving and then lied about it, and he just helped her after the event, shouldn’t she get the longer sentence?

three offences for him v one for her

 

[Riklet]

Maybe she'll go on hunger strike.

 

[a_chap]

One of the reasons her legal team gave for her not standing down is that its her only source of income, oh that's alright then.

The convicted thief asked for clemency because "burglary is my only source of income"...

 

[MickiQ]

In pretty much any other line of work, you would just get the boot for going down, this is quite literally a case of the people making the rules having a different set for themselves than anyone else.

 

[Teaboy]

In pretty much any other line of work, you would just get the boot for going down, this is quite literally a case of the people making the rules having a different set for themselves than anyone else.

Exactly. Even if you were really lucky and had an exceptionally understanding boss it seems pretty unlikely they'd continue to pay you full whack whilst you were in the clink.

 

[killer b]

I don't think people convicted of crimes should automatically lose their jobs though.

 

[Teaboy]

I don't think people convicted of crimes should automatically lose their jobs though.

No, but jail time inevitably means you can't carry out your job. Obviously a lot will depend what you're convicted for and the type of job you do.

But MP's should lose their job.

 

[MickiQ]

No, but jail time inevitably means you can't carry out your job. Obviously a lot will depend what you're convicted for and the type of job you do.

But MP's should lose their job.

On that we see eye to eye.

 

[belboid]

the last MP to go to jail was Terry Fields, for not paying his Poll Tax. Should he have lost his job?

 

[butchersapron]

Huhne (and others? Expenses fiddling?) since Fields.

 

[hash tag]

I thought we wanted MP's to be from all walks of life, to experience what many others have experienced, to be an MP of the people, after all how many other famous world leaders (as opposed to MP's) have previously been to prison; Castro, Mandela, Walesa are three that easily spring to mind.

 

[Sue]

Huhne - and others since Fields.

I thought Huhne but he apparently resigned before pleading guilty/being sentenced.

 

[butchersapron]

I thought Huhne but he apparently resigned before pleading guilty/being sentenced.

Ah, sneaky as ever.

 

[MickiQ]

the last MP to go to jail was Terry Fields, for not paying his Poll Tax. Should he have lost his job?

Yes he should have done, other people jailed for not paying their poll Tax lost theirs, so why should MP's be in a privileged postion over anyone else. The argument over whether anyone should have been jailed for not
paying the Poll Tax is a different one from whether or not MP's should get special treatment.

 

[killer b]

Yes he should have done, other people jailed for not paying their poll Tax lost theirs, so why should MP's be in a privileged postion over anyone else. The argument over whether anyone should have been jailed for not paying the Poll Tax is a different one from whether or not MP's should get special treatment.

It isn't, it's the same argument. Demanding MPs be treated the same as everyone else is arse about tit - we should demand that everyone else be treated the same as MPs

 

[hash tag]

Where do I send my "expenses" claim to?

 

[MickiQ]

It isn't, it's the same argument. Demanding MPs be treated the same as everyone else is arse about tit - we should demand that everyone else be treated the same as MPs

Good point but not alas very likely.

 

[belboid]

Yes he should have done, other people jailed for not paying their poll Tax lost theirs, so why should MP's be in a privileged postion over anyone else. The argument over whether anyone should have been jailed for not
paying the Poll Tax is a different one from whether or not MP's should get special treatment.

But those people shouldn't have, and many of those that did didn't lose their jobs. It's not automatic in most instances.