People getting racially abused because of the referendum result

[Lurdan]

So your disagreement isn't the figures and their source but that the media first got their story from social media and later the figures from True Vidion?

Sirena stated that initial press stories were based on this report of a '57% increase'. I pointed out that this was incorrect. I also pointed out that discussion of the issue had begun here at Urban over 24 hours before any press reports. You asked where the 57% came from. Since Sirena had pointed this out in some detail in the post I quoted I linked to one of the press stories about it and stated that it was meaningless, by which I meant that it was pretty obviously worthless as a measure of what was taking place. Something that might account for why, as far as I can see, no one had mentioned it on this thread before Sirena brought it up.

Not entirely sure if that answers your question. Happy to clarify.

 

[coley]

Fucking doing it again you dodgy cunt. What are you in China for anyway? Buying a wife you infected prick?

Go to the Chinese embassy in the UK, go to a Chinese restaurant in the UK, go to Chinatown, go to the lines of Chinese the warehouses outside Madrid and Valencia in Spain, go to the Chinese shops in Madrid, Barcelona, Valenica. Go anywhere where there might be a concentration of Chinese, Hong Kong folk in the EU and explain to them why saying "chinky" is a "triviality" you fucking wrongun.

Fuck me sideways, reported on so many levels, I didn't know where to start, Dwyer is a wind up merchant and often a prick, but this is totally off the map!

 

[Ax^]

Sirena stated that initial press stories were based on this report of a '57% increase'. I pointed out that this was incorrect. I also pointed out that discussion of the issue had begun here at Urban over 24 hours before any press reports. You asked where the 57% came from. Since Sirena had pointed this out in some detail in the post I quoted I linked to one of the press stories about it and stated that it was meaningless, by which I meant that it was pretty obviously worthless as a measure of what was taking place. Something that might account for why, as far as I can see, no one had mentioned it on this thread before Sirena brought it up.

Not entirely sure if that answers your question. Happy to clarify.

so are you saying its not going on and false reporting

 

[treelover]

Shocking, many of these accusations on this thread are, some temp bans are in order.

 

[coley]

Actually it works just as well in the EU countries

Or more so.

 

[Lurdan]

so are you saying its not going on and false reporting

I'd hope that what I meant was fairly clear from what I wrote and frankly I'm a little baffled that it could be read as implying what you are suggesting.

It is blindingly obvious that there has a been an increase of incidents of racist abuse and assault since the result of the referendum was announced. The exact scale of that increase in relation to the general level of 'everyday racism' is unclear, not least because there is no accurate measure of that 'general level'. It would be nice to hope that this is a temporary spike like the spike in incidents of violent domestic abuse during and after big sporting fixtures. But even if that turns out to be the case it might still mean that the 'general level' of 'everyday racism' had increased.

Any suggestion that the increase in abuse and assault over the last few days was simply hype would be both absurd and contemptible. How bad things are is as yet unknown.

As for the people attempting to play things up or play things down because they consider that the 'political issues' involved are more important than the fact the abuse is taking place - perhaps it's as well that I'm struggling to find words to express what I think.

 

[editor]

Fucking doing it again you dodgy cunt. What are you in China for anyway? Buying a wife you infected prick?

Crossed the line, there. Please don't do it again.

 

[danny la rouge]

Fucking doing it again you dodgy cunt. What are you in China for anyway? Buying a wife you infected prick?

Trying to catch up on this thread. Jesus it all went wrong, didn't it?

This is not how you disagree with people.

 

[Dan U]

British Movement posters spotted and ripped down in Reigate near where I live - I won't link to the image as it is not nice but it is very much 'send em all back'

Number of people commented the local Tory MP about it on Twitter but old Crispin Blunt seems more interested in tweeting about Boris

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

EDIT - deleting my post - im tired out. I dont trust what im saying right now...maybe later

Fair enough I'd been on the wine. I think I'm trying to sound practical but it looks flippant. Sorry if I offended.

 

[Libertad]

British Movement posters spotted and ripped down in Reigate near where I live - I won't link to the image as it is not nice but it is very much 'send em all back'

Number of people commented the local Tory MP about it on Twitter but old Crispin Blunt seems more interested in tweeting about Boris

Watch out for razor blades.

 

[ska invita]

Fair enough I'd been on the wine. I think I'm trying to sound practical but it looks flippant. Sorry if I offended.

No mate, i wasnt offended, and im not interested in a witch hunt. I do think there is something important to talk about here, things to consider for us all. Ive got sympathy with what Anju is setting out .... Im going to sit on this for a few days , digest whats been said and come back to it. Its been manic the last week or so and as theres a fair amount of subtlety to this and i want to be calm and precise about what we're talking about...hard to do with sleep backlog and in between a working day.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

No mate, i wasnt offended, and im not interested in a witch hunt. I do think there is something important to talk about here, things to consider for us all. Ive got sympathy with what Anju is setting out .... Im going to sit on this for a few days , digest whats been said and come back to it. Its been manic the last week or so and as theres a fair amount of subtlety to this and i want to be calm and precise about what we're talking about...hard to do with sleep backlog and in between a working day.

get some sleep and come back fighting

 

[krtek a houby]

Fucking doing it again you dodgy cunt. What are you in China for anyway? Buying a wife you infected prick?

Noooo; that's not the way to counter the apologist for racism. You can do better than that. That kind of talk is for people like ern and Capitally Racist

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

Noooo; that's not the way to counter the apologist for racism.

Neither is this:

Just what I thought. Cowardly white little englander.

Fuck off white boy.

You're not even human, white boy

 

[krtek a houby]

Neither is this:

Not my finest hour, for sure. But I stick by the little englander epithet as long as people keep denouncing those who voted to remain as liberals, middle class etc etc.

 

[butchersapron]

Not my finest hour, for sure. But I stick by the little englander epithet as long as people keep denouncing those who voted to remain as liberals, middle class etc etc.

So you, on a thread about racial abuse, respond to political criticisms, criticisms of a set of views, with abuse based on the colour of a posters skin? Then boast that you're going to continue to do so.

 

[Pickman's model]

Not my finest hour, for sure. But I stick by the little englander epithet as long as people keep denouncing those who voted to remain as liberals, middle class etc etc.

By doing so, if you reiterate the "fuck off white boy" sentiment you likely hasten your permanent departure from this site. Is that what you want?

 

[krtek a houby]

So you, on a thread about racial abuse, respond to political criticisms , criticisms of a set of views, with abuse based on the colour of a posters skin? Then boast that you're going to continue to do so.

For a change I'm going to reply to your "I know better than you" spiel. I said, I'd use the term little englander again. I did not say I'd mention skin color again. It was wrong of me to do so in the first place and it was a knee jerk reaction and I APOLOGISE UNRESERVEDLY FOR CAUSING OFFENCE.

Little Englander, petty patriot, uber nationalist, flag waving tosser - all valid for the voters who play down the worries of the remain camp and call us liberals, thickos and middle class. And not all leave voters are racist; obviously. Jut to clarify. Again.

Now - please do me a favour; don't ever - EVER address my posts again. Don't mention me, don't pick apart my every utterance. You and your acolyte nearly drove me to the brink over the last few years and I'm mentally exhausted by your enless sniping and carping.

Thank you.

 

[krtek a houby]

By doing so, if you reiterate the "fuck off white boy" sentiment you likely hasten your permanent departure from this site. Is that what you want?

Explained above. Now, please, please, please - I BEG YOU, leave me the fuck alone. Don't mention me ever again, don't refer to me, don't comment on my posts.

Leave me alone. Thank you.

 

[butchersapron]

For a change I'm going to reply to your "I know better than you" spiel. I said, I'd use the term little englander again. I did not say I'd mention skin color again. It was wrong of me to do so in the first place and it was a knee jerk reaction and I APOLOGISE UNRESERVEDLY FOR CAUSING OFFENCE.

Little Englander, petty patriot, uber nationalist, flag waving tosser - all valid for the voters who play down the worries of the remain camp and call us liberals, thickos and middle class. And not all leave voters are racist; obviously. Jut to clarify. Again.

Now - please do me a favour; don't ever - EVER address my posts again. Don't mention me, don't pick apart my every utterance. You and your acolyte nearly drove me to the brink over the last few years and I'm mentally exhausted by your enless sniping and carping.

Thank you.

In fact, the only example of racism i've seen on this site regarding this vote - apart from the now banned stormfronter type - has been from you, the most fervent supporter of remain i've encountered on here. Anyway, i should have known better than to reply to your posts.

 

[krtek a houby]

In fact, the only example of racism i've seen on this site regarding this vote - apart from the now banned stormfronter type - has been from you, the most fervent supporter of remain i've encountered on here. Anyway, i should have known better than to reply to your posts.

What part of leave me alone, don't you understand?

Anybody who knows me, knows I am not a racist. But if you want to up the ante and portray me as such, go ahead. You and your acolyte have to get your jollies somehow.

 

[krtek a houby]

And of course, not a single comment about his use of "non white". Or the poster who thinks it's ok, a jolly wheeze, to use the term "chinky".

But no - round on the easiest target you can. You filth.

 

[Pickman's model]

Explained above. Now, please, please, please - I BEG YOU, leave me the fuck alone. Don't mention me ever again, don't refer to me, don't comment on my posts.

Leave me alone. Thank you.

Yeh, while you do me so I will you.

 

[smokedout]

Not my finest hour, for sure. But I stick by the little englander epithet as long as people keep denouncing those who voted to remain as liberals, middle class etc etc.

I dare you to go onto a Welsh housing estate and proclaim that everyone who voted Leave is a Litle Englander

 

[Pickman's model]

I dare you to go onto a Welsh housing estate and proclaim that everyone who voted Leave is a Litle Englander

Or up the shankhill

 

[butchersapron]

Or Hartlepool.

 

[krtek a houby]

I dare you to go onto a Welsh housing estate and proclaim that everyone who voted Leave is a Litle Englander

I dare you to go on a London housing estate and proclaim that everyone who voted remain is a smug, middle class liberal.

 

[krtek a houby]

Or up the shankhill

I've been up the Shankhill and the Falls. Now leave me THE FUCK alone.

 

[krtek a houby]

Or Hartlepool.

I WILL FUCKING TOP MYSELF IF YOU TWO DON'T LEAVE ME ALONE.