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Octopus farming is ‘unethical and a threat to the food chain’

On the R4 reports today, they said Koreans eat octopus, while they are still ALIVE 😡

In the otherwise brilliant 2003 South Korean film Old Boy there's a scene where the main character eats a live octopus.

Me, I always have to skip that scene but if you like that sort of thing here it is:



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Octopus joins lobsters and squid on my list of things never to be eaten again (& I’m working on the rest). Mrs SFM - a far more carnivorous person than I and resistant to any moves towards vegetarianism - has joined me in this so I consider this a breakthrough.
 
Octopus joins lobsters and squid on my list of things never to be eaten again (& I’m working on the rest). Mrs SFM - a far more carnivorous person than I and resistant to any moves towards vegetarianism - has joined me in this so I consider this a breakthrough.
In my case, please add ... Nor any sort of shellfish, including crabs and the smaller "filter feeding" shellfish.

The list of stuff I will never eat is definitely getting longer ...
 
There hasn't been afaik an end of days novel featuring vengeful octopi but I fear that creating universities of octopus learning may lead to just that eventuality. Esp if anyone ever shows them spartacus
 
Octopus joins lobsters and squid on my list of things never to be eaten again (& I’m working on the rest). Mrs SFM - a far more carnivorous person than I and resistant to any moves towards vegetarianism - has joined me in this so I consider this a breakthrough.

I don't eat squid or octopus 🤢, lobster is lovely though.

It was one of the highlights of visiting my SIL on Islay, a nephew worked on a lobster boat, and SIL would get the ones with one or no claws. Delicious. Even more delicious when you think what a whole lobster costs in a restaurant.
 
Round here they end up yellow stickered.

weird story - how is it any less depressing than any other animal sold for food?
maybe because its sold whole
i think a full dead chicken with head and feet would probably look equally tragic

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In my case, please add ... Nor any sort of shellfish, including crabs and the smaller "filter feeding" shellfish.

The list of stuff I will never eat is definitely getting longer ...

Prawns
Mussels
Clams
Whelks (Mrs Sas only for these)
Oysters
Crabs
Lobsters

The above are all delicious and nutritious, and have been part of the human diet for millennia.
 
I hope none of the people making a fuss about this are eating pork. Otherwise it's just racism disguised as concern for animal welfare.

Racism? or speciesist?

To be honest, I'm not against eating animals because they're intelligent. If you're going to use animal suffering as a line in the sand, then any species that can feel pain should be on your forbidden list. I might think that any species that can feel pain, but isn't intelligent enough to understand why that pain is happening, should perhaps be higher on the list.

Personally, I didn't stop eating meat because of animal welfare issues. I've been out in nature enough to know that the natural world is built on suffering. I grew up hunting and I've personally been responsible for some of it. I stopped because my own health is better when i don't eat meat, and I don't want to add any more to climate change than I already do. If, as a side effect of not eating meat, there is less animal suffering, then I'm happy with that too.
 
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weird story - how is it any less depressing than any other animal sold for food?
maybe because its sold whole
i think a full dead chicken with head and feet would probably look equally tragic

E75L05DXMAAPHtw

We don't have a butcher here, but I remember the geese and pheasants hanging outside the butcher's shop in Fort William when I were a lad, later I used to sell him rabbits.
 
In my case, please add ... Nor any sort of shellfish, including crabs and the smaller "filter feeding" shellfish.

The list of stuff I will never eat is definitely getting longer ...

Crab and shellfish are on my no-eat list as well. The notion of eating an entire mussel has always caused me a bit of a mental block - since, all thoughts of consuming their digestive tract aside, there’s always a risk of a poorly prepared gritty specimen making it on to the plate. I still make them for Mrs SFM occasionally but ensure they’ve cleaned themselves out in a bucket of water for at least two days before. The only seafood thing that makes it through is the occasional prawn. I never liked cooking lobster when I worked in catering, The head chef (unlike many of his peers at the time) believed in dispatching them quickly just before they went in the pot. None of that boiling alive stuff that’s particularly distasteful.
 
weird story - how is it any less depressing than any other animal sold for food?
maybe because its sold whole
i think a full dead chicken with head and feet would probably look equally tragic

E75L05DXMAAPHtw
See above. An octopus is a very intelligent being, much more so than many other animals. It will probably be fed a crap diet and be kept in appaling conditions. Conditions which are alien to it.
 
See above. An octopus is a very intelligent being, much more so than many other animals. It will probably be fed a crap diet and be kept in appaling conditions. Conditions which are alien to it.
much more so than a pig or a cow? how much more or less value does its life have?
 
much more so than a pig or a cow? how much more or less value does its life have?
Probably. Depends. An octopus is far more intelligent. Depends how pig or cow are "farmed". Roaming in a field is not so bad. The treatment they get on the huge farms in America is appealing. This is also why I mention battery chickens.
 
Probably. Depends. An octopus is far more intelligent. Depends how pig or cow are "farmed". Roaming in a field is not so bad. The treatment they get on the huge farms in America is appealing. This is also why I mention battery chickens.
Appalling?
 
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horrible places. Most of them get shot and dumped.

Not true at all. It's happened a few times for various reasons but it's not general practice, as the antis would have you believe, at all. They basically picked up on a couple of unfortunate situations and told everyone it happens all the time.
 
I wish I lived near a pheasant shoot, pheasant is lovely, and cheap.

I think it;s one of the most boring meats there is, and barely worth the work you have to put in to them. Same with wild duck. Not worth bothering with (in the UK). Practically fuck all meat on them..
 
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