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klang said:
horrible places. Most of them get shot and dumped.
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agree with that, I could take you to at least half a dozen pits around here, on each of the three shooting estates within a shortish drive. [locations from before covid]
the last time I looked into one, not only were there a lot of game birds in it, but I could see at least two foxes and a badger ...
 
StoneRoad said:
agree with that, I could take you to at least half a dozen pits around here, on each of the three shooting estates within a shortish drive. [locations from before covid]
the last time I looked into one, not only were there a lot of game birds in it, but I could see at least two foxes and a badger ...
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Blimey. Did you take any photos?
 
Spymaster said:
Blimey. Did you take any photos?
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Yes, but under & among trees so very dark - I was using a torch ... and holding my nose with the other !

I sent the location and prints of the "best" couple of images to the Police's wildlife crime officer, council's environmental / animal health and LACS.
Only LACS bothered to acknowledge !

Went back about two months later, and someone had put some rubble and soil into the pit. It still stank, though.
Oh, and the nearby area for off-road parking had been seriously obstructed by boulders, and the trees had some had some crappy anti-personnel barbed wire draped about.
 
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StoneRoad said:
agree with that, I could take you to at least half a dozen pits around here, on each of the three shooting estates within a shortish drive. [locations from before covid]
the last time I looked into one, not only were there a lot of game birds in it, but I could see at least two foxes and a badger ...
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There's no excuse for that. There's some hunters here who hunt deer purely for sport, but they at least have the meat processed and give it to food banks.
 
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StoneRoad said:
Yes, but under & among trees so very dark - I was using a torch ... and holding my nose with the other !

I sent the location and prints of the "best" couple of images to the Police's wildlife crime officer, council's environmental / animal health and LACS.
Only LACS bothered to acknowledge !

Went back about two months later, and someone had put some rubble and soil into the pit. It still stank, though.
Oh, and the nearby area for off-road parking had been seriously obstructed by boulders, and the trees had some had some crappy anti-personnel barbed wire draped about.
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Any chance you can PM me the location, prints, and names of the shoots please?

Most shooters will be horrified by this and will organise a boycott of the sites and some suitable exposure.
 
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Spymaster said:
Any chance you can PM me the location, prints, and name of the shoots please?

Most shooters will be horrified by this and will organise a boycott of the sites and some suitable exposure.
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I'll see if I can find the negs, and the other info - no promises, as I've been clearing out a lot of stuff over lockdown and I did dump a load of apparently random paperwork and other stuff that had been damaged, it had been stored in what turned out to be a damp shed, thanks to Storm Ciara.

I'll look up the grid reference for you. IIRC it was up near the Alston / Nenthead area, but I might be remembering wrong ... as I say, I know where there are several dumps around the whole area.
[when I can find the right scale map - currently, that box is under a pile of other stuff, I think]

Although, I doubt I would have had the name of the actual landowner / shoots.
 
StoneRoad said:
I'll see if I can find the negs, and the other info - no promises, as I've been clearing out a lot of stuff over lockdown and I did dump a load of apparently random paperwork and other stuff that had been damaged, it had been stored in what turned out to be a damp shed, thanks to Storm Ciara.

I'll look up the grid reference for you. IIRC it was up near the Alston / Nenthead area, but I might be remembering wrong ... as I say, I know where there are several dumps around the whole area.
[when I can find the right scale map - currently, that box is under a pile of other stuff, I think]

Although, I doubt I would have had the name of the actual landowner / shoots.
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No worries.

What are the names of the 3 shooting estates you mention in post #151 though? Are they where the pits are?
 
Spymaster said:
No worries.

What are the names of the 3 shooting estates you mention in post #151 though? Are they where the pits are?
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No, that's based on what was said by someone I know - he used to do some beating, but had a very unpleasant experience a few years ago with a bullying & racist "toff".
I'll drag my memory for the info, but since I don't know the boundaries, there will be some guesswork involved.
 
StoneRoad said:
Yes, but under & among trees so very dark - I was using a torch ... and holding my nose with the other !

I sent the location and prints of the "best" couple of images to the Police's wildlife crime officer, council's environmental / animal health and LACS.
Only LACS bothered to acknowledge !

Went back about two months later, and someone had put some rubble and soil into the pit. It still stank, though.
Oh, and the nearby area for off-road parking had been seriously obstructed by boulders, and the trees had some had some crappy anti-personnel barbed wire draped about.
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might the weardale estate have been one of them?
 
StoneRoad said:
No, that's based on what was said by someone I know - he used to do some beating, but had a very unpleasant experience a few years ago with a bullying & racist "toff".
I'll drag my memory for the info, but since I don't know the boundaries, there will be some guesswork involved.
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Please do. These sightings generally turn out to be absolutely fabricated nonsense, so it would be good to get some solid evidence. :thumbs:
 
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