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Local Elections (not that London) 2024

Wokingham has gone slightly more lib-dem, but not quite enough for overall control. Because of boundary changes, all seats were up for election - in the past, it's been 1/3 of them each year.

Lib Dem 27 (+1)
Con 19 (-3)
Lab 8 (+3)
Ind 0 ( -1)

think the independent was a former tory who had fallen out with them for some reason, and didn't stand for re-election.

current administration is a LD / labour coalition, presume that will continue.

The two TUSC candidates got 69 and 83 votes in the two wards they stood in.
 
Have woke up to see Reform have gotten 2 councillors, Tweedledee and Tweedledum now have a few years to spew absolute rubbish before getting binned in the next election.
 
Because the alternative is Labour. Couple of Tories already started on the "vote Reform get Labour" line last night, it'll either be that or some sort of deal to stand in strategic seats - like how Brexit Party only stood against Labour, Lib Dem and Remain Tories in 2019.
 
Derbyshire PCC changes from Conservative to Labour
Nicolle Ndiweni has been elected as police and crime commissioner (PCC) for Derbyshire. She received 93,260 votes, nearly 30,000 more than the incumbent, Angelique Foster of the Conservatives, who received 65,293. Reform's Russell Armstrong came in third place with 32,944 votes, with Liberal Democrat David Hancock receiving 22,540.
A total of 803,297 voted in the election, with a turnout of 26.6%.

The new East Midlands Combined County Authority's Mayor (what a bloody awful title and even worse acronym EMCCA) has been won by Labour’s Claire Ward, defeating candidates including Conservative Ben Bradley, Liberal Democrat Helen Louise Tamblyn-Saville, Independent Matt Relf, Green Party member Frank Adlington-Stringer and Reform UK’s Alan Graves.

Claire Ward received 181,040 votes
Ben Bradley - Conservative - 129,332 votes
Frank Adlington-Stringer - Green Party - 50,666 votes
Alan Graves - Reform UK - 49,201 votes
Matt Relf - Independent - 23,359 votes
Helen Tamblyn-Saville - Lib Dem - 15,970 votes
 
Labour have a serious problem here.

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This was noted in the now disavowed comment regarding Hamas, but journos have picked up that Labours Muslim support is cratering.

This is linked to the community absolutely being disgusted by Labours cowardly shit on Gaza, and the potential for that 17.9% to increase should Netanyahu and his psychos go into Rafah heavy, with Labours tacit approval, is very real.

Somewhat karmic that Starmers Labours inability to criticise Israel, because of the extremely low bar they sent for criticism to be antisemitic or grounds for suspension, is now fucking them over at the ballot box.
 
Agree that the Greens can be reasonably happy but LDs have done pretty poorly considering that they were hoping to benefit from the collapse of the Tory vote, their projected national share is down 3 pp from last year and well down on the short of share they were taking in the 90s.

All to the good, and something to be cross-posted on the LD shit thread.
 
Well hard to argue the Greens haven't had an unambiguously good election compared to everyone. LDs will be unhappy about some results but there's still a lot of wins there
 
redsquirrel said:
Agree that the Greens can be reasonably happy but LDs have done pretty poorly considering that they were hoping to benefit from the collapse of the Tory vote, their projected national share is down 3 pp from last year and well down on the short of share they were taking in the 90s.

All to the good, and something to be cross-posted on the LD shit thread.
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The LDs have virtually disappeared in certain areas, where they were in a strong second position to the Tories, and occasionally ending up with the most seats, the coalition years hit them hard, not only have they never recovered, but it just continued to get worst for them.

Taking Worthing as an example, back in 1998 they gained control with 21 seats to 15 for the Tories, about 7 years ago that was down to just 3 with the Tories on 34, this year they lost their very last seat to Labour, who ended up with 26, Tories 9 and Greens 2.

And, you can see a similiar situation in various council areas across the South & South-East.
 
cupid_stunt said:
The LDs have virtually disappeared in certain areas, where they were in a strong second position to the Tories, and occasionally ending up with the most seats, the coalition years hit them hard, not only have they never recovered, but it just continued to get worst for them.

Taking Worthing as an example, back in 1998 they gained control with 21 seats to 15 for the Tories, about 7 years ago that was down to just 3 with the Tories on 34, this year they lost their very last seat to Labour, who ended up with 26, Tories 9 and Greens 2.

And, you can see a similiar situation in various council areas across the South & South-East.
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Unfortunately, not so in the 'golden crescent' of outer SW GL where the yellow streak of piss still control councils :(
 
Balbi said:
Labour have a serious problem here.

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This was noted in the now disavowed comment regarding Hamas, but journos have picked up that Labours Muslim support is cratering.

This is linked to the community absolutely being disgusted by Labours cowardly shit on Gaza, and the potential for that 17.9% to increase should Netanyahu and his psychos go into Rafah heavy, with Labours tacit approval, is very real.

Somewhat karmic that Starmers Labours inability to criticise Israel, because of the extremely low bar they sent for criticism to be antisemitic or grounds for suspension, is now fucking them over at the ballot box.
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I think it would be helpful if there was a little more research into this tbh. I'm not questioning the figures however I'm curious as to the dynamics ie a general lower turnout by Labour Muslim voters due to Labour's position on Gaza versus a vote change to parties or independents that campaigned on a strong line on Gaza. Also interested in the non Muslim pro Gaza voting base and some sampling/focus group stuff about why other Asians stuck with voting Labour or other pro-Israel parties.

Labour may want to pass this off as a one time protest vote in less important local elections and hope its not repeated in the GE as getting the Tories out will be more important . However, there must be a doubt that this is not going to go away quickly.
 
cupid_stunt said:
The LDs have virtually disappeared in certain areas, where they were in a strong second position to the Tories, and occasionally ending up with the most seats, the coalition years hit them hard, not only have they never recovered, but it just continued to get worst for them.

Taking Worthing as an example, back in 1998 they gained control with 21 seats to 15 for the Tories, about 7 years ago that was down to just 3 with the Tories on 34, this year they lost their very last seat to Labour, who ended up with 26, Tories 9 and Greens 2.

And, you can see a similiar situation in various council areas across the South & South-East.
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Sadly the Libs are getting stronger in Winchester.

Pinched 3 seats off the tories this time round. Greens took 1 as well.

There was a small switch from LD to Green in safe LD wards though

Pleased about what’s happening down your way though.
 
The39thStep said:
I think it would be helpful if there was a little more research into this tbh. I'm not questioning the figures however I'm curious as to the dynamics ie a general lower turnout by Labour Muslim voters due to Labour's position on Gaza versus a vote change to parties or independents that campaigned on a strong line on Gaza. Also interested in the non Muslim pro Gaza voting base and some sampling/focus group stuff about why other Asians stuck with voting Labour or other pro-Israel parties.

Labour may want to pass this off as a one time protest vote in less important local elections and hope its not repeated in the GE as getting the Tories out will be more important . However, there must be a doubt that this is not going to go away quickly.
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The protest vote in Birmingham was real, and I'm sure someone's going to do the work here, this was a snapshot of 930 wards yesterday.

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Now if this is Gaza related, or just how Labour's become quite comfortable with islamophobia as it gets used to being in power again soon, is debatable. However, if it is Gaza - then Labour need Netanyahu not to go into Rafah, they need a cease-fire, and they need this to be off the agenda by the time Sunak calls an election.

Labour do not want to criticise Israel, because they've made a great show of rooting out antisemitism in the party and that too strongly criticising Israel will see them get hammered by the organisations they've been making nice with since 2019 - and they can't survive that. Which means they need Israel to stop doing war crimes, because that means they won't have to not criticise them.

However, there's already significant damage emerging. How bad it gets, and what effect that has on a General Election campaign, appears to be out of Labour's hands - only because they've painted themselves into a corner.
 
PR1Berske said:
The BBC is obsessed with Reform, still, despite the LDs gaining hundreds and Reform only having one seat. This is how narratives are allowed to blossom about the rise of the right etc
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I read the Sky update/blog this morning and aside from reporting on Green or LD wins, the analysis was all Tory and Labour all the way down
 
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