Leytonstone tube station "terrorist incident"?

[Anudder Oik]

Rather than having a dig, he should be (imo) relieved to have survived such a vicious attack.

He's the one you see get slashed in the video, while the police are present. He has a point about the people filming. We live in decadent times. Running away or having a go are natural reactions but standing there filming?

 

[bluescreen]

Indeed. Shame there wasn't some squaddies/ex squaddies on hand to beat the knife wielding cunt to a pulp.

Well, yes. Those Eurostar guys were in the right place at the right time; they were fit and had the training. Can't always happen like that.

 

[Anudder Oik]

Indeed. Shame there wasn't some squaddies/ex squaddies on hand to beat the knife wielding cunt to a pulp.

I got a "heinous pointless bellend" award for saying something along those lines today.

 

[Anudder Oik]

Well, yes. Those Eurostar guys were in the right place at the right time; they were fit and had the training. Can't always happen like that.

Good job they were recharging their mobiles at the time, too.

 

[BigMoaner]

If the bloke's back was to me id like to think id of clumped him one round the head, but who knows until in that situation. If no police on site and he just kept stabbing you'd need to rush him surely.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

I got a "heinous pointless bellend" award for saying something along those lines today.

I've been here far too long for that shit

 

[bluescreen]

If the bloke's back was to me id like to think id of clumped him one round the head, but who knows until in that situation. If no police on site and he just kept stabbing you'd need to rush him surely.

Scarf! This time of year you can disable with a scarf around the face if you approach from behind. In a film, that is.

ETA, but I agree in principle. You just need to engage other people. Catch their eye. I've never done it, only read about it, so don't know if it works.

 

[frogwoman]

So, it's not a terrorist act because? The police, the media, together with ISIS want it to be, and the guy just happens to be muslim, doing what others do on saturday nights and he rolls on the floor in an incorrect manner.

What would or wouldn't make this fit into the current narrative of terrorist attacks is not how this man rolled on the ground, nor is it even his low budget attack or an unsubstantiated claim that he is raving mad, but his "motive", which he clearly stated.

It is wishful thinking on your part that makes you try to shift the narrative away in denial of the facts. I would guess this is due to your legitamte fear of the broader consequences, ie; the effect these attacks have on shifting political perceptions and a rise in intolerance towards normal muslims.

This guy had a knife, the last ones in London had a knife and a car, the one on the beach in tunisia had a kalishnikov. All had the same motives.

Maybe people are reluctant to label it terrorism because it just seems to be a guy with a knife rather than any wider plot if you see what I mean? I still think we should wait for it to be confirmed one way or another tbh.

 

[BigMoaner]

I'd love to see an interview with one of the attackers. A proper in depth interview into every aspect of their life and belief to try and work out what leads to this. The reasons are as complex as the person involved.

 

[BigMoaner]

Does anyone know of any, frogwoman?

 

[frogwoman]

'Terrorist material found' in connection to Leytonstone knife attack

 

[Mr.Bishie]

I'd love to see an interview with one of the attackers. A proper in depth interview into every aspect of their life and belief to try and work out what leads to this. The reasons are as complex as the person involved.

And more than likely we will, as he hasn't got a mag of slugs in his head.

 

[bluescreen]

What is 'terrorist material'?

 

[Mr.Bishie]

What is 'terrorist material'?

Shit Rag headlines.

 

[laptop]

What is 'terrorist material'?

An A-Z?

 

[bluescreen]

An A-Z?

Well, I recall some IRA members being convicted on the basis of a list of names and a map.

 

[Anudder Oik]

What is 'terrorist material'?

Bottle of bleach, rucksack, matches, parafin heater, and the rest of the stuff he couldn't take with him to Leytonestone station.

Mind you, personally, I think this has all the hallmarks of a lone wolf jihadist attack not just a crazy person.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

I think this has all the hallmarks of a lone wolf jihadist attack not just a crazy person.

kin ell lol

 

[Artaxerxes]

What is 'terrorist material'?

Labour manifesto

 

[shygirl]

I rarely say this, but i felt proud of the way the Police handled the situation last night. He would certainly have been shot dead if he was in the US.

 

[bluescreen]

I rarely say this, but i felt proud of the way the Police handled the situation last night. He would certainly have been shot dead if he was in the US.

The police were good. A bit angry with the bystanders, but understandably so in the evolving circs where they needed to keep people clear of danger. We do need police, don't we as a society, and we need them to be good and well trained people. Seemed to work here.

 

[bimble]

I rarely say this, but i felt proud of the way the Police handled the situation last night. He would certainly have been shot dead if he was in the US.

Agreed. I also feel kind of 'proud' wrong word but happy about '#YouAintNoMuslimBruv' . Don't think that's as likely to have trended in the US.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Dead peeps can't talk

 

[ViolentPanda]

They don't tend to knife capitalists in the neck though.

Speak for yourself.
As an anarchist I personally find that I can't get a decent kip unless I've stabbed a capitalist in the throat.

 

[bluescreen]

Dead peeps can't talk

Your point being? There are no dead peeps here but there's no guarantee the live one's going to squawk.

 

[tim]

I'd love to see an interview with one of the attackers. A proper in depth interview into every aspect of their life and belief to try and work out what leads to this. The reasons are as complex as the person involved.

I'm sure are interviews out there with those involved in attacks upon civilian targets during the "Troubles" . There were then and are now plenty of reasons for anger. Just don't believe the banal 72 virgins narrative that tends to get spun.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Your point being? There are no dead peeps here but there's no guarantee the live one's going to squawk.

If this guy is affiliated to Daesh, maybe a liability, ie he may talk. A dead man can't talk.

 

[bluescreen]

If this guy is affiliated to Daesh, maybe a liability, ie he may talk. A dead man can't talk.

Tbh I'd be astonished if he's affiliated to anything. Call me back if I'm proved wrong.

 

[frogwoman]

I'm sure are interviews out there with those involved in attacks upon civilian targets during the "Troubles" . There were then and are now plenty of reasons for anger. Just don't believe the banal 72 virgins narrative that tends to get spun.

What reason could you have for trying to slit a random guy's throat in a tube station?

 

[ViolentPanda]

What, behead their enemies, chuck homosexuals off tall buildings, make children kill people, destroy historical artefacts?

When Christianity was the same age as Islam is now, adherents committed many of the same crimes, including using children to kill.