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Aye, horrible. My youngest lad was at Notts Trent University and lived in the student accommodation block next to where the van ended up. Doesn't bear thinking about. What must their families be going through.
Major Incident in Nottingham - 13th June 2023
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not a trot
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Really? She was in a pushchair in our argument the other week!
Kids grow up so quickly these days.
WouldBe
Dislicksick
It said homeless shelter on BBC news at dinner time.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
That's far too many.
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
Most recent BBC article (around 6.30pm on 14 June) has described it as a hostel but that's it.It said homeless shelter on BBC news at dinner time.
GarveyLives
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Condolences to all who have been impacted by this event (or series of events)
Can anyone clarify why the fact that the sole suspect to date, former University of Nottingham Mechanical Engineering graduate Valdo Amissão Mendes Calocane, was born in
Guinea-Bissau, West Africa, before settling in the UK as a child or young person some years ago ago is of any particular relevance or importance to these tragic events?
Racialising of Nottingham suspect is deliberate
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Just watched the speeches from the families of the victims at a public event in Nottingham this evening and I am not ashamed to have shed tears at the love and magnanimity of these grieving folk. I totally see the value of such an event to the families and the people of Nottingham (and to us all) - to be united in not just grief, but love, and a refusal to bring hate into the equation despite some people’s best efforts.
equationgirl
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It feeds into the right-wing 'immigrants = bad' falsehood perpetuated by many, the instructional racism aspect of the police, not to mention the mH issues.
Indeliblelink
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Valdo Calocane, 31, has been charged with the murders of Barnaby Webber, Grace O'Malley-Kumar and Ian Coates, along with three counts of attempted murder.
Nottingham attacks: Valdo Calocane charged with three counts of murder
Barnaby Webber, Grace O'Malley-Kumar and Ian Coates were stabbed to death on Tuesday.
www.bbc.co.uk
GarveyLives
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The prosecution have today accepted the pleas of the Nottingham stabbings killer, Valdo Amissão Mendes Calocane (who is also known as Adam Mendes), who admitted manslaughter on the grounds of diminished responsibility due to mental illness. He had been receiving treatment from mental health services since 2020, including being treated with anti-psychotic medication. During the following years, Valdo Amissão Mendes Calocane (who is also known as Adam Mendes), who has paranoid schizophrenia, “actively concealed symptoms of psychosis” and refused to take his medication.
Three psychiatrists have assessed Valdo Amissão Mendes Calocane (who is also known as Adam Mendes), concluding that despite suffering paranoid schizophrenia he would have understood the nature of his conduct in attacking three of his victims with a dagger described in court as "a double-edged fighting knife". His sentencing hearing is expected to last for about two days.
Three psychiatrists have assessed Valdo Amissão Mendes Calocane (who is also known as Adam Mendes), concluding that despite suffering paranoid schizophrenia he would have understood the nature of his conduct in attacking three of his victims with a dagger described in court as "a double-edged fighting knife". His sentencing hearing is expected to last for about two days.
What was he called again?
8ball
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Dave, I think.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Real name Rodney.
GarveyLives
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GarveyLives
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From the newspaper coverage, it appears that not all share your sense of mirth regarding the actions of Valdo Amissão Mendes Calocane (who is also known as Adam Mendes):
Triple killer visited MI5 headquarters and begged ‘please arrest me’ two years before killing spree
Police failed to catch Nottingham killer for nine months before his attacks
8ball
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From the newspaper coverage, it appears that not all share your sense of mirth regarding the actions of Valdo Amissão Mendes Calocane (who is also known as Adam Mendes):
Triple killer visited MI5 headquarters and begged ‘please arrest me’ two years before killing spree
Police failed to catch Nottingham killer for nine months before his attacks
Who?
wemakeyousoundb
hopefully not gimboid
I know it's funy to make fun of stuff but people died needlessly and someone who should have been in some protective custody for their and others safety wasn't
it's just another indictment on the penny pinching state of the health service where mental health provision is always the first victim of budget cuts
it riles me because I have worked with people who have ended in that position (the one Valdo Amissão Mendes Calocane (who is also known as Adam Mendes found himself him)
8ball
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Well, we’d need something further from the three psychiatrists involved to conclude that with any confidence.
wemakeyousoundb
hopefully not gimboid
best of luck
So we need reminding of the perp’s name in every sentence?
Cloo
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These killings were awful but I'm a bit disturbed by the very mental-illness villifying nature of a lot of the reporting. I get that the families of the victims are devastated and angry and are calling him 'evil' and 'cowardly', but there seems to be plenty of evidence Calocan was seriously, seriously unwell, it's not like he was pretending so he wouldn't go down for a murder charge. And at the same time the tone of a lot of the reporting is a bit 'Woooo, dangerous mentally ill people'.
The thing to be angry at is the appalling underfunding and under-resourcing of mental health services - if he was able to be supported Calocane might have been prevented from becoming that acutely ill.
The thing to be angry at is the appalling underfunding and under-resourcing of mental health services - if he was able to be supported Calocane might have been prevented from becoming that acutely ill.
gosub
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No. seen it all day reporting like should have been murder...its not. diminished responsibility is diminished responsibility...they had footage of the victims families statements on 10pm beeb...they weren't saying that, their anger is at mental health and policing.
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trashpony
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I suspect if my beautiful 19 year old had been randomly murdered by someone who should have been locked up but wasn’t, I’d be bloody raging and feel pretty vengeful too
Calocane was badly failed by MH services but the families whose lives he’s devastated are paying a much higher price. Their feelings are entirely valid.
Calocane was badly failed by MH services but the families whose lives he’s devastated are paying a much higher price. Their feelings are entirely valid.
gosub
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Though have been misrepresented in most the news stuff I've had on in the background today
Cloo
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I've seen some people on line calling him evil for refusing to take his medication. I don't know whether this is true that he didn't, but I do know it's notoriously difficult to get some very mentally ill people to take meds unless they're monitored very closely, because the whole nature of the illness makes them likely to refuse.
GarveyLives
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More to come out at the inquests?:
Buddy Bradley
Pantheistic solipsist
Is it though? The clips they played on the BBC are all about "he was evil, he knew what he was doing, it was murder" - doesn't sound much like they have any sympathy with the diminished responsibility verdict.
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