Spion
I hear ya
I'm not the one quoting holy books in order to demonstrate the evil intent of a whole religion. You really are a racist scumbagImo you're a fanatic.
Israel in coordinated missile attacks on Gaza
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agricola
a genuine importer of owls
Zachor,
Sorry, I just quoted it from someone elses post. That said, as Belboid has said it was pretty much the implication of what you were saying then and have continued to say since.
Nor have I seen any independent or credible evidence that Gaza Hospital has been used to store missiles, indeed one would have thought that due to the IDFs stringent policy of avoiding civilian casualties they hardly have the room, given the huge numbers of civilian casualties.
Sorry, I just quoted it from someone elses post. That said, as Belboid has said it was pretty much the implication of what you were saying then and have continued to say since.
Nor have I seen any independent or credible evidence that Gaza Hospital has been used to store missiles, indeed one would have thought that due to the IDFs stringent policy of avoiding civilian casualties they hardly have the room, given the huge numbers of civilian casualties.
Johnny Canuck3
Well-Known Member
I'm quoting it in relation to Hamas' intentions.
Also, I didn't put the words into any holy book.
Like any common garden variety fanatic, you'd prefer that we pretend that the words don't exist. It makes it harder to shill your biased view of reality.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
You're an arsehole of the first order. Let's have a look at your ill-though out, hate-filled rant in more detail.
Oh? Given your statements elsewhere, this comes as no surprise. Your Damascene conversion to Zio-Nationalism notwithstanding. You are no better than those fascists that you claim to despise.
Too right, it is nigh on impossible to negotiate with Israel.
You left out the words "collateral damage". Again, you sound as though you're working for the Israeli Ministry for Information. This is all reinforced by the classic paranoid statement that Israel is "surrounded by enemies". Of course, it might hurt your brain to actually sit and think about the issue of causality with regards to this flourish of histrionics.
More fash-inspired rhetoric. The Gazans voted for Hamas in free and fair elections. Perhaps we should be thinking of removing Kadima/Likud from power because it is clear that the Israelis don't know what they're doing when they vote. You're quite clearly are in favour of democracy for some but not others - right?
The US Air Force used to have a slogan: "Peace through strength", I always thought of how Orwellian that slogan was. Here. you literally adopt the same Orwellian line. You're two-faced and inconsistent.
Yeah and fuck you too.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
It's harder to spew your bigoted hatred if there's someone looking over your shoulder, isn't it?
So says the poster whose thoughts about the Palestinian people are as ignorant, bigoted and hate-filled as those he criticises.
I've got your number, pal.
Spion
I hear ya
Of course they exist, but I see no-one acting upon them.
Meanwhile Israel acts out the latest chapter in its genocide.
Which weighs more for you? Words or dead bodies? Actually it's obvious
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
Erm, I hate to break it to you, but in case you haven't noticed this has been Israeli policy for some time now, and it's not worked.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
Everyone's favourite Governmental spokesperson Danny Seaman returns to the fray (via the Grauniad):
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/07/world/middleeast/07media.html?_r=3&hp
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/07/world/middleeast/07media.html?_r=3&hp
Spion
I hear ya
I'm absolutely convinced it won't work, militarily or as an election gambit for Kadima
The IDF is failing to engage on the ground in Gaza city for fear of casualties. And at the same time it fears destroying Hamas for fear of creating a 'Somalia' in Gaza.
And we can be sure there will be planty of dead Israelis in response, and if that occurs sooner rather than later it could blow Kadima's election plan out of the water.
The IDF is failing to engage on the ground in Gaza city for fear of casualties. And at the same time it fears destroying Hamas for fear of creating a 'Somalia' in Gaza.
And we can be sure there will be planty of dead Israelis in response, and if that occurs sooner rather than later it could blow Kadima's election plan out of the water.
Bernie Gunther
Fundamentalist Druid
Well, really they haven't any place else to go. They're in Gaza (which as a whole has a population density comparable to Central London, obviously it's far higher in say Gaza City).
The Israeli government doesn't seem to see it as a dilemma however, despite the UN saying that their bombing of Gaza constitutes a war crime.
it's to be expected as part of your inexorable slide into being an egregrious cunt.
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
Come on Johnny, this is a plain stupid thing to say......
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Oh look, the man who converted to secure himself a piece of arse is coming over all chickenhawk.
That's because you're unable to think full stop.
In which case you've just advocated the mass slaughter of those Israelis who have authorised the invasion of Gaza.
You, a shvuntz who's never served any military function, has very little idea what any military can do, except for what you absorb from propaganda.
Thank you for regurgitating the rancid ventings of hard-right Zionists, but how about engaging in some original thought (if you're capable of it)?
Blinkered supporter of oppression -- fuck you, fuck the horse you rode in on, fuck the horse's sire and dam, and fuck the tosser who sold you the horse too, tuchus lecher.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
And posting stuff from the ADL's website too. Such an authoritative, unbiased source!
travellerlife
Well-Known Member
That will never happen, This is just a huge waste of lives, this problem will never be resolved by bombs or killing, military intervention in this scenario merely buys time. Unless the Palestinians all disappeared or similarly the Israelis, this needs to be negotiated out for any type of long term solution. Putting people behind a wall and trying to bomb or starve them into submission will not work, neither will suicide bombers or home made rockets. All Israel is doing is creating the next generation of Bombers / freedom fighters.
Until both sides get pushed to the negotiating table, with a simple, get a deal made or else ultimatum by the US / Europe / China / Middle east states, this will run and run.
I was involved in something similar in a different hemisphere and war simply means lives are lost for no resolution, expect this again in 5, 10, 15 years time. Both sides need to be forced to negotiate, make a deal or else sanctions, loss of support from the USA, Europe etc. Problem is the countries who can force this, do not have the stomach to make this happen, the USA especially.
Israel is as much in the wrong as the Palestinians, in no event is killing of children / babies / civilians acceptable, whether it is by high tech bombs and missiles or low Tech IED or suicide bombers, the result is the same, dead innocent people. Collateral damage is a euphemism for murder. When politicians and religious fanatics are forced to confront this truth, the world will be a better place.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
That's a fucking cretinous question even for you, Johnny.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
You know what the prevailing wind direction over Gaza is, tight?
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
you've made a typo in your comment, which therefore renders it totally invalid
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agricola
a genuine importer of owls
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
But he doesn't, does he? He just regurgitates stuff he finds on the first page of google searches that he does. You can't really call that "thinking", can you?
claphamboy
The wheels on the bus go round and round....
But he doesn't, does he? He just regurgitates stuff he finds on the first page of google searches that he does. You can't really call that "thinking", can you?
This is part of a post I've just made on the propaganda war thread:
And from that same article, something for JC2 to consider when using google:
link
8ball
Decolonise colons!
Israel isn't trying for a military victory. It has no military objective. Nor is it attempting genocide (it has much better weapons in reserve for that sort of business).
It is merely attempting to assert dominance and has no coherent goals beyind that.
Both sides in this party are divided against themselves, and I'm becoming convinced that the meddling of the rest of the world is just making matters worse. Hamas wouldn't even be in the position they are if we hadn't supported them as an alternative to the Soviet-backed Fatah.
Well, Helen Suzman, no naive women her, spoke out againt the excesses of the ANC armed Wing (including torture) and she was there unlike the many keyboard general here who wish Hamas success.
btw, 50 odd pages, no wonder no one supports the left anymore if it can only focuses on international events, espacially when it does little in forms of real aid, eg funds for war victims, etc.
claphamboy
The wheels on the bus go round and round....
It is currently the biggest world story – hardly surprising there’s a long thread.
And, although I can’t speak for others, I have made two donations in recent days – both to Oxfam & MSF.
audiotech
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Who on here has ever supported the torture of anyone?
Well, apart from some of the anarchokids who sometines raise hilarity by saying they wish to see 'the rich' suffer? Many who describe themselves as 'left' will be raising and sending relief donations to the various welfare organisations as you well know.
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