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How much evidence is there of long term high level UK paedophile ring?

Prince Andrew with a young masseuse. They go after useful idiots like Gary Glitter to appease the public.

Prince Andrew holidayed and had daily massages at a Florida mansion where teenage girls were abused by a billionaire child sex offender, it can be revealed.



http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/03/02/article-1362034-0D60F629000005DC-211_468x529.jpg

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ase-billionaire-Jeffrey-Epsteins-mansion.html


Epstein’s long-standing handyman and cleaner Juan Alessi revealed how he set up massage tables for Andrew, 51, on a daily basis during an extended stay, thought to be about ten years ago.
Speaking under oath to solicitors in September 2009, he said pictures of naked women were on display by the pool, while other witnesses have described a gallery of nude photographs of underage girls adorning the wall of a staircase.
 
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scalyboy said:
Kids being raped, what finer topic for a good old laugh and a wind-up, what a wheeze you are. Your parents must be proud of you.
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Given the volume of good research in this thread, Diamond making comments about "research skills" is more than a little pathetic.
 
Would it be possible for a mod to tidy up the last couple of pages? I know it's a big ask but the disruption and retorts just adds a load of surplus crap to an otherwise focused thread.
 
Just to say, not read thread today but I think it's excellent overall. Every other converstaion I've seen on this complex and perplexing issue has lacked the general breadth and well informed nature. I think tempers have been held pretty well here too. Just saying, perhaps others disagree. If thwt know of a better tempered, informed and overall balanced discussion I hope they link to it.
 
taffboy gwyrdd said:
Just to say, not read thread today but I think it's excellent overall. Every other converstaion I've seen on this complex and perplexing issue has lacked the general breadth and well informed nature. I think tempers have been held pretty well here too. Just saying, perhaps others disagree. If thwt know of a better tempered, informed and overall balanced discussion I hope they link to it.
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Agreed. A fine filter of the hive mind has been going on here. A most valuable resource.
 
Wilf said:
I don't feel the need to engage with this nonsense, you're just a clown. Be nice if you could be a clown somewhere else. Seriously, take a good look at yourself. Whatever you think about the way people have posted on this thread (it's hard to tell what your beef is to be honest), it really, really isn't the place for this puerile stuff.
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The endemic self importance is the point. Don't you see how irrelevant this all is in direct proportion to the slightly paranoid, hurried tones in which it is discussed?

And then there is the odd, slightly Daily Mail prurience bubbling away close to the surface.

Very odd.
 
nino_savatte said:
Indeed. Remember this is where Britain's colonial administrators were schooled. The bullying regime follows them into adulthood and is then applied to the colonised as well as those at home.
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The public school/boarding school background of our rulers may give a clue to the otherwise unfathomable disconnect between ordinary peoples' revulsion at child sex abuse, and the seeming unwillingness to act/inability to view it as revolting, as is displayed by the 'Establishment'.

Does this also give us a clue as to why so many have been willing to turn a blind eye/'lose' files/ignore calls for an enquiry? If they - when at public school - were either witness to, perpetrators of, or victims of sexual abuse, have they somehow internalised it as "well it wasn't that bad"? It is extraordinary, but may go some way to explain the inexplicable refusal to be a 'whistleblower' or just refuse to obey your higher-ups who wanted a report buried?

The latter point may apply just as much to police as to civil servants/ politicians, but here it's less likely - I would guess - that police have a background of public/boarding school. But with the police there is the strong tendency to conservatism, respect authority, obey higher-ups. So the end result may be the same thing - reports got 'lost', witnesses ignored etc. Where it gets really f--ing nasty and unfathomable is when witnesses are intimidated and threatened so as to protect high-society nonces - this is presumably down to the "for the greater good" mentality, preserve the 'Estabishment' at all costs.
 
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Don't know if anyone else has mentioned this upthread, or heard this rumour (and I'll be careful how I word it) but I was told this a few weeks ago (oddly, before this latest story broke in the press) by a friend of a friend.

During the 1980s a high-ranking politician was discovered by his police protection officers to be involved in heavy duty noncery. One of the officers was said to have gone mental and tried to assassinate the politician, was sectioned, and it was all hushed up. The other topped himself out of disgust, after having reported their findings to their higher-ups who told them to keep quiet and forget it.

It may be a load of bollocks but I just wondered if anyone else had heard this story?
 
Kalfindin said:
(...) In an interview at his home today, Mr Hulbert also says he was told that the payment was made on the orders of the Metropolitan Police's Special Branch

http://www.itv.com/news/2014-07-09/westminster-pie-grant-home-office-whistleblower-tim-hulbert/
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I note the current quote from the Met in that article:

"Whilst this is ongoing it would be inappropriate to comment further."

Going to be a lot of that sort of thing, isn't there? How long can these enquiries run in order to allow such a catch-all get out?
 
ibilly99 said:
So I take it from this article that if the defendant is unfit to stand trial then there is no trial..never mind there might be enough evidence to warrant a prosecution.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/labour-peer-escapes-probe-over-3836213#.U72629iy_Dl.twitter
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Well, if he is unfit to stand trial you obviously can not put him on trial. I wonder if he will join Ernest Saunders and have a remarkable recovery in a couple of years? It is horrible to think he will be alive and still get away with it.
 
It's not even got to the stage where he'd have to plead - it's just basic police questioning that he's not fit to undergo. Although i don't see the police themselves specifically saying that in the Mirror piece.
 
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