scalyboy
They’re taking the piss now
As if you or I would be able to escape prosecution on such grounds. 
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Not my cup of tea musically, but an Apposite album title
How much evidence is there of long term high level UK paedophile ring?
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Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Aye, urban at its best I think. There's always a potential tension in a thread like this where some people have done long term research and are using the thread to build things up precisely and logically Vs people like me who pop in and just comment on the days events or let off steam. However that doesn't become a problem and the thread works overall. In fact something that is primarily about integrating news and research, over 100+ pages and still functioning is good in itself.
taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
If not mentally fit for trial then I trust he's not still deemed mentally fit to be part of the law making process, drawing hundreds of pound a day for doing so.
If that's the person Im thinking of, he has very powerful connections on an international level. I know someone abused in one of the homes he frequented , they and another reported him to cops in the 90s, they were asked to draw diagrams of the buildings and where abuse took place etc. A short time after the guy got sectioned and the former home then a derelict building mysteriously burnt down, then demolished. No action was taken.
The peer in question is also an amateur magician, he used that to entertain kids in homes, before he abused them. An absolute scumbag. Find it hard to believe, Blair was not aware of this guy.
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happie chappie
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There is a strong hint, deliberately or not, as to the identity of the Peer in the third paragraph of the article.
If it is the person you are thinking of you can always Wikipedia his name and have a look at some of his interests and hobbies.
happie chappie
Well-Known Member
Sorry - you got in before me but yes it appears to be one and the same person!
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
The amount of detail given about the Labour Peer means he's virtually been named, but I won't. More to the point, I wonder what the police/social services are going to do see that he doesn't abuse again, in the absence of legal action? Also, he has a range of national and international positions. Particularly those where he was required to actually do something (rather than sit in an honourary positin), has he resigned from them recently due to reduced capacity? I'm about to look, but I suspect the answer's no.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
As i said above - he was attending the Lords for the max number of days available as late as december last year. The following month - the last with publicly available records - he didn't attend at all. The months leading up to december pretty much all show max attendance.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Aye, I was just looking for evidence of him undertaking active tasks outside parliament. Anyway, I'm not sure why I'm pussy footing around with regard to identification, he was named by the Jewish Chronicle 10 days ago:
http://www.thejc.com/news/topics/abuse
And again, maintaining a fairly pointless anonymity, politically active in September 2013:
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kenny g
Sheeple Awake!
If he is suffering from early stage dementia he can still be interviewed in accordance with code c of the police and criminal evidence act 1984. The code specifically addresses mental health issues. He would have to be very far gone for an interview to have no evidential value. However, one factor in considering whether a prosecution would be in the public interest under the cps code for prosecutors is the infirmity of the defendant.
butchersapron
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I can find informal references to him suffering from early stage dementia from dec '13. At the same time as he was putting in max attendance at the lords.
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
Was he actually working at the lords, or just using the restaurant? I hope that doesn't sound flippant - my understanding is that a lot of the Vermin in Ermine use it as a social club or retirement home.
Most likely this is the Saunders defence all over again, of course.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
The very month his house was searched. Chicken/egg?
butchersapron
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Janner is a proper busy body, fingers in every pie - i suspect he will have been working. And not at anything good. For instance he's been the main man on the consolidation bill joint select committee (i.e a body of both lords and commons and so pretty high powered) since 98.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Yep - and he's a lawyer - a QC even. He's not stupid.
I can't find anything in Hansard later than February 2013?
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
And using the old grey matter is apparently thought to provide at least some protection against the dreaded Herr Doktor Alzheimer.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Well, I found him making a speech outside Parliament in July 2013:
http://www.chabadslo.com/templates/articlecco_cdo/aid/2328621/jewish/Lord-Janners-Speech.htm
Along with showing an interest in a case in the Lords, post 3281 above.
Needless to say, forms of Dementia are complex and work out differently in the different areas of mental capacity, day to day life etc. However, this does look pretty Saundersish.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Sorry, I was still in coy mode at that point. It was outside parliament - link in 3290.
I'm surprised he didn't do a Dame Shirley Porter and flee to Israel claiming an anti-semetic plot to bring him down. Whatever happens like Maxwell before him his burial with full state honours on the Mount of Olives is assured.
Oh I forgot he forgets so he won't remember that , probably , allegedly.
Oh I forgot he forgets so he won't remember that , probably , allegedly.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Yes, he's had plenty of time to get everything in place since he was first named in earlier inquiries. The knock on the door was never going to be a shock.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
if you try to google new "lord janner" or "greville janner" for the period between 2001 and November 2013 (to get a pic of his activity) you'll see it's been stripped bare and the google link to further info about why says:
Which suggests it may be relatively recent.
Which suggests it may be relatively recent.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
'Magic tricks'
bluescreen
tofu eating wokerati
BBC Leicester have an article online from 30 April about evidence being sent to the CPS concerning a named 85 year old peer, renowned for good works. His home had been raided in December, so it's not surprising he didn't feel like turning up to the Lords after that. At the time of the article, the peer hadn't been charged or even interviewed. Now it looks as if he isn't going to be.
BTW, you can always try google.com/ncr if you want to avoid Google's trick of always referring you back to your national domain with its legal restrictions.
BTW, you can always try google.com/ncr if you want to avoid Google's trick of always referring you back to your national domain with its legal restrictions.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Quite!
I think that magic circle stuff is going to bring in a whole heap of stuff for people to latch onto - uri geller, michael jackson...prince charles - the dot joiners are going to have a field day.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Hiding in plain sight!
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