Hartlepool by-election
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
The plant would make a better leader than starmer
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Limp, fucked, dehydrated and dying though it is...more backbone than the cop.
steeplejack
trapped lbw for a duck
Anas Sarwar, "leader" of "Scottish" Labour
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Give it a drop of bilberry wine and it'd soon perk up
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Oh, right.
Perhaps I need to keep up?
PR1Berske
Alligator in chains by the park gates.
"....said leader of the Labour Party Keir Starmer."
steeplejack
trapped lbw for a duck
I'm sure your life was complete enough without knowing which shopfront dummy is charged with presiding over the managed decline of centrist/ soft right British Nationalism north of the border
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
I suppose it amounts to taking an interest in LibDem 'leadership' in England?
steeplejack
trapped lbw for a duck
Yes that chump Sarwar and "Sir" Ed Davey have about the same level of brand recognition, i.e. none outside their own living rooms
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
Sarwar isn't even a household name in his own household.
Iirc -which I may not because I'm old and I lose interest - his old man was a labour MP in Glasgow, in the 'community leader/corrupt as fuck' mould.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
A void within a lacuna within a suit. But really sensible.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Labour has become see through, it casts no shadow. It's being help upright by the first past the post system, which means it'll still get a few million votes in the next election. But those who voted for it won't really have any memory of the event, just a vague feeling of going blank before returning to the world that boris johnson made. 
PR1Berske
Alligator in chains by the park gates.
At first glance he does look like the first boot from The Apprentice, the one who came up with the team name "Power Move" and then found that a middling degree from a ho-hum redbrick did nothing when faced with a task to sell tinned fruit from outside an Overground station.
I did wonder this when I saw her being very complimentary to the NIP this afternoon.Mutterings on Twitter about ex-Labour MP Thelma Walker standing for the NIP.
Mutterings on Twitter about ex-Labour MP Thelma Walker standing for the NIP.
She's met with them and publicly tweeted her support for them and about how impressed she is with them. So she is surely considering it...
lazythursday
Averagely-Known Member
I had dismissed this as unlikely but then notice that she does have a local connection - worked as a teacher in Stockton on Tees for twelve years. Some time ago though.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
Mutterings on Twitter about ex-Labour MP Thelma Walker standing for the NIP.
Her twitter feed is full of retweets of their stuff, and apparently she 'had a great conversation with them, blah blah...'.
No idea if that's solid money, but there's certainly a bit of a love-in going on...
PR1Berske
Alligator in chains by the park gates.
tim
EXPLODED TIM! (Help me!!!)
They've been through it all before and survived.
Dom Traynor
Tino Pai
Walker is a diehard remainer but probably not stupid.
Even with someone like her (and having been a teacher in Stockton is not a local connection, Hartlepool is very parochial) I just can't see how a party like NIP can leverage a "good twitter game" into anything meaningful for this. I actually think they will damage themselves in this by getting such an abysmal vote it will demotivate their young and inexperienced support.
Stockton South or Redcar would be much more fertile ground for them. There's a core of current and former Labour people there who might be tempted.
Even with someone like her (and having been a teacher in Stockton is not a local connection, Hartlepool is very parochial) I just can't see how a party like NIP can leverage a "good twitter game" into anything meaningful for this. I actually think they will damage themselves in this by getting such an abysmal vote it will demotivate their young and inexperienced support.
Stockton South or Redcar would be much more fertile ground for them. There's a core of current and former Labour people there who might be tempted.
tim
EXPLODED TIM! (Help me!!!)
Papa is now Governor of the Punjab.
It might all go wrong, but they don't really have any choice but to give it their best crack though do they?
Dom Traynor
Tino Pai
I think they have a choice to say they have only just emerged and the time and location are not right, that it takes time to build a party / movement there are no short cuts but a good social media game compliments the hard ground work.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Perhaps the thinking is that it’s been over a year since a by election therefore it will get lots of media coverage . They’ll get a mention on national news when anyone reads the candidate out and they’ve got a reasonable social media presence . I get your point that there may be better recruiting grounds in the region , they’ve also got an issue that they are competing with several others for the discontented/ populist vote not least some other fairly local group . I can’t see a punt doing them any harm in terms of recruitment , profile , perhaps finance unless they get a totally derisory vote . They’ve got to make an electoral intervention at some stage . It’s what happens after that is important ie aside from social media how do they organise supporters on the ground especially W/class supporters and build something them . A left populist movement would be great .
I think the idea that a recently formed northern separatist party wouldn't run in a rare low-stakes election in a northern town which recently elected a man in a monkey suit to office in another low-stakes election is a bit far fetched tbh. It gives them the opportunity to grow their profile considerably, and it might even - if everything falls into place - see them win.
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