Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
But I doubt many of the hamas reps elected round 2006 remain alive.
Hamas/Israel conflict: news and discussion
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
We're told all manner of lies about hamas, as a quick look on Wikipedia will reveal.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Watching Owen Jones last night. He had piece of the hypocrisy of support for Ukraine versus Gaza.
Statement from President Joe Biden on Russia’s Aerial Assault on Ukraine | The White House.
He wasn't saying this is wrong thing to say about Ukraine attack its that the gulf between the way Ukraine is talked about in mainstream west politics versus the way Gaza is.
Statement from President Joe Biden on Russia’s Aerial Assault on Ukraine | The White House.
He wasn't saying this is wrong thing to say about Ukraine attack its that the gulf between the way Ukraine is talked about in mainstream west politics versus the way Gaza is.
teqniq
DisMembered
Peston seems to have changed his tune:
From:
Link to the article in the sceenshot which is worth a read:
www.thecrimson.com
From:
Link to the article in the sceenshot which is worth a read:
For the Safety of Jews and Palestinians, Stop Weaponizing Antisemitism | Opinion | The Harvard Crimson
Antisemitism in the U.S. is a real and dangerous phenomenon. To contend against these and other antisemitic forces with clarity and purpose, we must put aside all fabricated and weaponized charges of “antisemitism” that serve to silence criticism of Israeli policy and its sponsors in the U.S.
Aladdin
Well-Known Member
Saw this today..
Some IDF soldiers who were wounded have picked up fungal Infections through wounds. Ten soldiers so far. One has already died from this. The fungus has been detected in the soil in Gaza. It developed in the soil around sanitation plants and wastewater plants which were destroyed by Israel. So this fungus has developed in the waste in the soil.
There's a suggestion made on Israeli tv that the fungus was maybe in tunnels.
(Next the Israeli government will say the fungus was caused by Hamas.
Even the soil in Gaza is trying to fight against this genocidal occupation.)
Some IDF soldiers who were wounded have picked up fungal Infections through wounds. Ten soldiers so far. One has already died from this. The fungus has been detected in the soil in Gaza. It developed in the soil around sanitation plants and wastewater plants which were destroyed by Israel. So this fungus has developed in the waste in the soil.
There's a suggestion made on Israeli tv that the fungus was maybe in tunnels.
(Next the Israeli government will say the fungus was caused by Hamas.
Even the soil in Gaza is trying to fight against this genocidal occupation.)
teqniq
DisMembered
I think it would be fairer to say they are victims of the bombing by their own side of vital civilian infrastructure, so a kind of karma.
Aladdin
Well-Known Member
The last few lines of my post was sarcasm ..
Of course..the IDF demolishing waste and sewage plants in Gaza has led to waste leeching into the soil for the past 2 months...providing a breeding ground for all sorts of diseases, fungal, bacterial and viral.
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
Of course things have changed since that video, Corbyn and the left have been defeated so there's no longer any need to label criticism of Israel as antisemiticPeston seems to have changed his tune:
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From:
Link to the article in the sceenshot which is worth a read:
For the Safety of Jews and Palestinians, Stop Weaponizing Antisemitism | Opinion | The Harvard Crimson
Antisemitism in the U.S. is a real and dangerous phenomenon. To contend against these and other antisemitic forces with clarity and purpose, we must put aside all fabricated and weaponized charges of “antisemitism” that serve to silence criticism of Israeli policy and its sponsors in the U.S.
Aladdin
Well-Known Member
Biden has called for release of Palestinian tax funds held by Israel...
The Israeli government is refusing.
The Israeli government is refusing.
8ball
Check your privet hedge
Hmm, yeah, getting on for a couple of decades since they were elected.
But anyhoo, great bunch of lads.
Aladdin
Well-Known Member
Slightly bonkers preview of the interview with the young lady kidnapped from the music festival and released a month or so ago by Hamas.
'Everyone in Gaza is a terrorist'. 'I've been through a holocaust'
The whole "everyone* in Gaza is a terrorist " thing is being said out loud on Israeli tv.
*including babies...even unborn ones.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
Peston seems to have changed his tune:
View attachment 406507
From:
Link to the article in the sceenshot which is worth a read:
For the Safety of Jews and Palestinians, Stop Weaponizing Antisemitism | Opinion | The Harvard Crimson
Antisemitism in the U.S. is a real and dangerous phenomenon. To contend against these and other antisemitic forces with clarity and purpose, we must put aside all fabricated and weaponized charges of “antisemitism” that serve to silence criticism of Israeli policy and its sponsors in the U.S.
"warns of incipient McCarthyism" says Peston, no doubt wearing a hot-dog suit and stood in a crash-damaged shop
TopCat
Putin fanboy
True. But they are friends to many, the rich etc
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Having read the whole news report it comes across as Biden wanting it to appear he's being tough with Israeli government. When he's doing no such thing in reality.
tim
EXPLODED TIM! (Help me!!!)
If it's killed and incapacitated young Israeli soldiers. It will have done much worse to the general of Gaza, no karma for them, just another threat to their lives
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Where did I mention Fry?
Aladdin
Well-Known Member
Agreed.
Also..the fact that Netanyahu's government is stating they don't trust Norway as an intermediary to host the tax money owed to the PA..in the mean time??? Netanyahu clearly does not trust anyone or any country outside of his own extreme right wing government.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Peston seems to have changed his tune:
View attachment 406507
From:
Link to the article in the sceenshot which is worth a read:
For the Safety of Jews and Palestinians, Stop Weaponizing Antisemitism | Opinion | The Harvard Crimson
Antisemitism in the U.S. is a real and dangerous phenomenon. To contend against these and other antisemitic forces with clarity and purpose, we must put aside all fabricated and weaponized charges of “antisemitism” that serve to silence criticism of Israeli policy and its sponsors in the U.S.
Watched the video. So according to Peston it is anti semitic to say foundation of Israel was racist. I do not see how Nakba can be construed as anything else but an act of ethnic cleansing and therefore racist. As was not allowing those displaced to return to their homes. Even if one might argue there was a war and people were displaced. Not allowing them back, in some cases blowing up the Palestinian villages and handing over the stolen land to the Jewish National Fund after the foundation of Israel all points to deliberate exclusion of Arabs from the new Israeli state.
Im not sure whether he has changed his mind. He's still referring to "legitimate" debate and "reasonable" questions.
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
Now there's a surprise (from The Guardian).
tim
EXPLODED TIM! (Help me!!!)
The rich are few and I can't think of many others to whom the Tories are friends.
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
tim
EXPLODED TIM! (Help me!!!)
They just think that the Tories are their friends.
teqniq
DisMembered
Lot of soul-searching and hand-wringing going on here. Only going to make a difference if the actual decision-makers take heed:
Are There No Red Lines to U.S. Support for Israel?
Are There No Red Lines to U.S. Support for Israel?
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Here is another poll done in first week on November. Face to face cross section of Palestinians in Gaza and West Bank.
This was fourth week of the war, So a lot of people had been killed or displaced.
Support for Hamas was still high:
From the english language press release:
75% say they want a unity Palestinian government after war. I take that to mean all factions included. Including Hamas.
So do Palestinians think Hamas are the enemy of Palestinian people?
Going on this no.
PDF of the press release.
This was fourth week of the war, So a lot of people had been killed or displaced.
Support for Hamas was still high:
From the english language press release:
75% say they want a unity Palestinian government after war. I take that to mean all factions included. Including Hamas.
So do Palestinians think Hamas are the enemy of Palestinian people?
Going on this no.
PDF of the press release.
RhymnRzn
anti-doter
Poor children, there's a bunch of well fed people actually preaching for this violence
ska invita
back on the other side
Report: Ex-UK PM Blair eyed as mediator on post-war Gaza, including resettlement of Palestinians
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www.timesofisrael.com
Jesus wept
Fucking retire you cunt
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teqniq
DisMembered
Apparently denied yesterday as soon as it was talked about on Twitter:Report: Ex-UK PM Blair eyed as mediator on post-war Gaza, including resettlement of Palestinians
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Jesus wept
Fucking retire you cunt
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
Given the way his fibs usually work, this probably means the discussions were about Gazans going on holiday.
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