Maybe they were resident there before becoming wheelchair bound & were never offered a different flat...?I heard earlier of wheelchair users on the 18th floor! What the fuck is that about. You are not supposed to use lifts in the event of a fire so how is someone in a wheelchair supposed to get down 18 flights of stairs.
18 flights understates the problem: 2 flights per floor in towerblocks. and 1 flight would present pretty insurmountable problems to someone in a wheelchair.I heard earlier of wheelchair users on the 18th floor! What the fuck is that about. You are not supposed to use lifts in the event of a fire so how is someone in a wheelchair supposed to get down 18 flights of stairs.
The emergency services will also need help and support in the days to come, they will have witnessed truly appallings scenes.
I've seen fire safety videos where wheelchair users are just told to go into 'fire safety refuges' - stairwells - in the event of a fair, to wait for rescue. FFS!I heard earlier of wheelchair users on the 18th floor! What the fuck is that about. You are not supposed to use lifts in the event of a fire so how is someone in a wheelchair supposed to get down 18 flights of stairs.
i can see stairwells being chimneysI've seen fire safety videos where wheelchair users are just told to go into 'fire safety refuges' - stairwells - in the event of a fair, to wait for rescue. FFS!
i can see stairwells being chimneys
where i lived the council said they would force entry to flats to ensure the safety inspection occurred.
there is a bridge between buildings at the second storey level connecting two blocks of avenue campus university. Staff training is that they are meant to get their disabled colleagues there (as its a 'safe zone') and then leave them there and go to your outside assembly point. Apparently everyone at the coffee breaks said that would never happen, they come with us to the assembly point if we have to carry themI've seen fire safety videos where wheelchair users are just told to go into 'fire safety refuges' - stairwells - in the event of a fair, to wait for rescue. FFS!
Sorry, at the moment I'm too angry to hold a rational discussion. More so after looking at the Grenfell Action Group blog. I'm going for a [long] walk.
It's part of complex and seems same materials were used.
some places have chairs which can go down stairs
Ah, cheers.
I've seen fire safety videos where wheelchair users are just told to go into 'fire safety refuges' - stairwells - in the event of a fair, to wait for rescue. FFS!
Irrespective of building regs the fire regs have been around for 12 years in their current form. There is no excuse for not having a suitable risk assessment and control measures in place.
Yeah and if you have no access to lifts, as is the case in a fire, it seems like the only plausible solution in a standard tower block. Always gets me though, the idea of just 'leaving people' perched up the stairs.The fire is supposed to be contained in the flat it started. Even if it breaches that, the stairwell is additionally protected. Certainly enough time for firefighters to go up and bring wheelchair users down from the landings. There could also be evac chairs that people can use to take wheelchair users down flights of stairs. That's why fire safety videos tell wheelchair users to go to refuges, because it's a system that works.
Obviously if the building doesn't comply with the regulations, then all that goes out the window.
Legal obligation yes.
How will they go home tonight or any night and not wonder whether they will wake up? Where can they go?
CNN reporting that RBKC are saying that they "were assured the building was safe".
