Government floats bonkers idea of loosening lockdown in groups of ten people

[Epona]

I mean - I can't exercise in here - it is currently hitting in the high 30s Celcius on a daily basis. The only thing I can do indoors is sit and sweat.

I am feeling really low right now. I can't live like this indefinitely, I need to be able to see a way out of it.

 

[bmd]

Surely it's completely unworkable anyway, I can't work out how it would actually work - must be more about small businesses saying "you're one of my 10 or P45 in the post..."

Lockdown is effectively over here, no social distancing in shops, loads of people out and about, so they do need to come up with something soon.

It isn't like that here!

 

[bmd]

I think that there are a lot of people who this is affecting in lots of negative ways and their usual coping strategies are simply not available to them, or don't work under these conditions. I get that but I'm off work, not fuloughed or redundant, I've chosen to not go to my job at Tesco because my daughter is in that vulnerable category.

So whilst I do empathise with those people who want it all to end and, trust me, I'm one of them, I don't want it to end in a half-arsed fashion. People have died for us, quite literally that, so let's do our part too. If that means sitting at home and feeling shit then so be it. For me, I have a lot of anxiety around money for the coming months, especially if it lasts longer than 3 but there we go.

 

[Epona]

I think that there are a lot of people who this is affecting in lots of negative ways and their usual coping strategies are simply not available to them, or don't work under these conditions. I get that but I'm off work, not fuloughed or redundant, I've chosen to not go to my job at Tesco because my daughter is in that vulnerable category.

So whilst I do empathise with those people who want it all to end and, trust me, I'm one of them, I don't want it to end in a half-arsed fashion. People have died for us, quite literally that, so let's do our part too. If that means sitting at home and feeling shit then so be it. For me, I have a lot of anxiety around money for the coming months, especially if it lasts longer than 3 but there we go.

How about if it's not sitting at home and feeling shit, what if it is someone taking an overdose or slitting their wrists?

I empathise with you, but I do not want to be here if this is going to go on for a long time.

My life is effectively over now, if I have to just sit here.

 

[bmd]

How about if it's not sitting at home and feeling shit, what if it is someone taking an overdose or slitting their wrists?

I empathise with you, but I do not want to be here if this is going to go on for a long time.

Then you will have died for the cause and I salute you.

 

[Epona]

Then you will have died for the cause and I salute you.

I won't have died for any cause and no-one is going to salute me. What makes my life less worthy than anyone elses? Other than you don't love me so the person you love is worth more to you?

Also nice way of telling me to go kill myself

 

[bmd]

I won't have died for any cause and no-one is going to salute me. What makes my life less worthy than anyone elses? Other than you don't love me so the person you love is worth more to you?

Also nice way of telling me to go kill myself

I thought you were joking. But as I can see now that you're not, here's the long 'grow up' answer. Take some responsibility for your life. Shit's changed, just sitting there and crying about it won't cut it any more.

NHS workers are dying every day and you're telling me that sitting at home is driving you to suicide? Really? REALLY?

 

[Epona]

I thought you were joking. But as I can see now that you're not, here's the long 'grow up' answer. Take some responsibility for your life. Shit's changed, just sitting there and crying about it won't cut it any more.

NHS workers are dying every day and you're telling me that sitting at home is driving you to suicide? Really? REALLY?

Oh fuck off, I know not everyone understands mental health issues, but this really is the most insensitive post I have ever seen in my life, you have NO FUCKING IDEA.

 

[Epona]

Have you ANY FUCKING IDEA what it is like to feel suicidal? You think it is just "pull your socks up and get on with it" - FUCK OFF YOU ABSOLUTE WASTE OF FUCKING SPACE

 

[bmd]

Have you ANY FUCKING IDEA what it is like to feel suicidal? You think it is just "pull your socks up and get on with it" - FUCK OFF YOU ABSOLUTE WASTE OF FUCKING SPACE

Mental health Top Trumps?

Let's go.

 

[bmd]

Only joking, cba.

 

[two sheds]

Not good bmd none of us know other peoples' circumstances and what pressures they're under and how they're going to react

 

[Epona]

Only joking? Only joking??? You absolute fucking CUNT! Fuck off and die

 

[Epona]

You have absolutely no fucking idea what I am going through, my uncle died and I can't see anyone in my family, how fucking dare you judge my emotional/psychological reaction to this?

This is the one place I hope to be able to express this shit, because I am isolated and cannot see any other fucking people in my life.

I could do without people leaping on that and being pissy about it. And trying to one-up it is utterly disgusting.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

I mean - I can't exercise in here - it is currently hitting in the high 30s Celcius on a daily basis. The only thing I can do indoors is sit and sweat.

I am feeling really low right now. I can't live like this indefinitely, I need to be able to see a way out of it.

This will pass Epona, as hard as shit is right now, This will pass.

 

[Epona]

I might ask for some help to get Zoom or some similar thing set up so I can attend a virtual funeral soon.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

I might ask for some help to get Zoom or some similar thing set up so I can attend a virtual funeral soon.

Zoom is quite simple, if I managed it you will be able to. Download the app, you get invited to the meeting (funeral) and the inviter gives you a number to enter and a passcode, then they all appear on your screen. There are fairly clear buttons to activate video and audio, these need to be pressed.

 

[Marty1]

I mean - I can't exercise in here - it is currently hitting in the high 30s Celcius on a daily basis. The only thing I can do indoors is sit and sweat.

I am feeling really low right now. I can't live like this indefinitely, I need to be able to see a way out of it.

Do you go outside to exercise at all/regularly tho?

I’ve seen people meet up responsibly on my travels at work - two blokes on each side of the street, separated by the road just throwing a tennis ball back and forth to each other. They seemed like they were having a good time for such a simple thing, waving as I passed them. Just a thought mate.

 

[kabbes]

Epona, what makes you feel good under normal conditions? What’s your release, your interest, your focus?

 

[kabbes]

I’ve seen people meet up responsibly on my travels at work - two blokes on each side of the street, separated by the road just throwing a tennis ball back and forth to each other. They seemed like they were having a good time for such a simple thing, waving as I passed them. Just a thought mate.

Thus indirectly making contact and passing any virus they have along with the ball. Genius.

 

[killer b]

Fucking hell bmd - maybe review your posts this morning - that's harsh as fuck.

 

[Dogsauce]

I might ask for some help to get Zoom or some similar thing set up so I can attend a virtual funeral soon.

Some crematoria will livestream funerals, they did for my uncle’s funeral in November so his sister’s family in the US could watch (she couldn’t travel due to recovering from a hip operation), also this week they did the same for my cousin‘s mother-in-law. Won’t be available everywhere but sure the tech is quite simple to set up.

(for my uncle‘s one there was just a link you could click on to watch online, no additional software needed)

 

[bimble]

NHS workers are dying every day and you're telling me that sitting at home is driving you to suicide? Really? REALLY?

This is 100% bollocks though isn’t it. Same as eat your greens because babies are starving in Africa apart from with what you’re doing, telling someone their feelings aren’t real, is just harmful and not helping the nhs or anyone else.

 

[Looby]

I thought you were joking. But as I can see now that you're not, here's the long 'grow up' answer. Take some responsibility for your life. Shit's changed, just sitting there and crying about it won't cut it any more.

NHS workers are dying every day and you're telling me that sitting at home is driving you to suicide? Really? REALLY?

What the fuck? Fucking hell, if you really can’t try and have some understanding about how other people are coping with the situation then maybe don’t respond to posts about it.
I don’t want the lockdown relaxed before it’s safe to do so and I’m petrified of feeling forced to get back out there and getting ill.
I’ve also spent many days crying about how hard my job is to do at home. Other people might read that and think I should count myself lucky that I can work and I’m getting paid and I do. But I’m still stressed and worried and tearful.
Everyone is coping differently and some aren’t coping at all.

 

[Marty1]

Thus indirectly making contact and passing any virus they have along with the ball. Genius.

Yeah, didn’t think of that - they should have been wearing gloves but even if not - need to be vigilant to not touch face before washing hands.

 

[kabbes]

Yeah, didn’t think of that - they should have been wearing gloves but even if not - need to be vigilant to not touch face before washing hands.

Gloves wouldn’t help. The virus would just be on the gloves instead, which they would inevitably transfer to their hands on removal unless they have trained and practiced at avoiding cross-contamination when using PPE

 

[lazythursday]

I'm not sure this group thing is such an awful idea - if me and my partner could make a group with a few friends (I think 10 is too many tbh, though perhaps that's trying to cater for two households with kids) it would likely make us better able to continue with lockdown for a long period. The social etiquette / ramifications of it are pretty stark though - it will prioritise family ties over friendships, put people under pressure to join a family unit they may be trying to distance from, and force people to make some pretty emotionally charged decisions.

 

[Clair De Lune]

I thought you were joking. But as I can see now that you're not, here's the long 'grow up' answer. Take some responsibility for your life. Shit's changed, just sitting there and crying about it won't cut it any more.

NHS workers are dying every day and you're telling me that sitting at home is driving you to suicide? Really? REALLY?

Fucking hell. This is an embarrassing lack of empathy man. Check yourself.

Epona if there's anything I can do ...private chat, phone call for some release, distraction or company let me know. You're not alone in your feelings and you are cared for.

 

[platinumsage]

I'm not sure this group thing is such an awful idea - if me and my partner could make a group with a few friends (I think 10 is too many tbh, though perhaps that's trying to cater for two households with kids) it would likely make us better able to continue with lockdown for a long period. The social etiquette / ramifications of it are pretty stark though - it will prioritise family ties over friendships, put people under pressure to join a family unit they may be trying to distance from, and force people to make some pretty emotionally charged decisions.

I think it's a good idea in theory but far to complicated to implement:

"Why don't you come and see me dear, it's been 3 months I've been alone and you're allowed to see ten people now"
"Well mum, one of my flatmates is isolating but my other flatmate is seeing his sister and her husband and their baby, and you're checking up on your neighbour whose son ( who has two kids with his wife) can only visit occasionally, so that would be 12."

 

[chilango]

On a cynical note, I suspect the - very real - MH impact of the lockdown will be used by the Govt to humanise their profit driven lifting of the lockdown.