UK gov England lockdown predictions!
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No locking down before Winterval.
Majority of the country will be visiting relatives and friend's. Out in the pubs and clubs until lockdown late December.
Lockdown will kick in when everyone is skint, working from home and no longer visiting family.
So the positives are?
Majority of the country will be visiting relatives and friend's. Out in the pubs and clubs until lockdown late December.
Lockdown will kick in when everyone is skint, working from home and no longer visiting family.
So the positives are?
Cloo
Banana for scale
I guess they can't really pull in a total no-mixing lockdown now because presumably huge numbers of people will be staying at family homes and have train or plane tickets for later next week, I think you'd have to give it until at least 3rd Jan for lots of people GTFO from where they'll be staying at Christmas 
rubbershoes
not the only raver in the village
They'll announce it on boxing day to come in a few days later
You think Boris Johnson and his pals are going to be working on Boxing Day...
rubbershoes
not the only raver in the village
Raheem
Well-Known Member
Two versions scripted. One telling us to stay at home, one telling us to go out as much as possible. Then blended into a single confusing whole.
rubbershoes
not the only raver in the village
Cloo
Banana for scale
Seems most likely - I guess the question is now 'firebreak' or 'Level 2 restrictions'? Or something really weak-ass.
weltweit
Well-Known Member
But the science is evaluating Omicron and finding that it is much less likely to put people into hospital.
Raheem
Well-Known Member
Think "following the science" was last on-message about six months ago.
weepiper
I fix the machines that fight climate change
Half of eight is still considerably more than all of two.
weltweit
Well-Known Member
Yes, that is true. We will be able to see the hospital admissions as they happen.
But so far I don't think they have been too alarming.
Also Johnson doesn't want to recall MPs to parliament to discuss new measures and to prompt another rebellion in his party which might be one step closer to someone making a challenge.
I could well be wrong though.
rubbershoes
not the only raver in the village
weltweit
Well-Known Member
He is damaged goods, on an attempt at political survival
That said it is possible that the medics and scientists could brief against him.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
Probably old news, but most of the reporting seems to be pushing the idea of some kind of 'stage 2' measures, starting either 28th Dec or 1st Jan, and either for 2-4 week or until end March.
I think he'll struggle to pass anything by his party that's longer than a few weeks tbh.
I think he'll struggle to pass anything by his party that's longer than a few weeks tbh.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
Yeah, although he'll be under pressure for a short as possible period, so maybe he might try from the 1st for 2 weeks....? Imagine they'll be an announcement/press briefing tomorrow eve?
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
Yeah I think that is old news - I'm not convinced that journalists have kept their finger on the pulse of what's likely to happen, given Christmas and everyone being away from Westminster.
elbows
Well-Known Member
Yes there was a large bunch of SAGE papers released just before Christmas but the media seem to have fixated on things like the Warwick modelling that looked at stage 1 and 2 restrictions despite the fact that modelling was already published a fair bit earlier than those final pre-Christmas documents. It did get mentioned explicitly in some of the latest minutes releases though, which is probably why journalists only noticed in much more recently.
Another thing thats clear from the most recent SAGE documents is that the question of shielding for the vulnerable and older age groups came up again, I assume it may have been put back on the agenda due to the possibility that some politicians have resorted to clutching at those straws.
SAGE documents also mention how various data including hospital data will be of lower quality over the Christmas period, suggesting that waiting for a better sense of reality over this period before making decisions is somewhat futile. They keep underlining the need to act quickly, as usual, and describe some scenarios where waiting for a firmer sense of severity etc will make actions much too late to avoid very bad pressure on hospitals.
elbows
Well-Known Member
And the Observer took a very small amount of stuff from SAGE releases and mixed it in with what the completely insane tory backbenchers have said about future tory leadership candidates needing to oppose further restrictions.
www.theguardian.com
Tory MPs warn Boris Johnson’s rivals to oppose tougher Covid new year rules
Leadership hopefuls told to block new limits in England as scientists model curbs on bars and cafes
I have seen a lot of places closing till after New Year
most due to lack of staff or to protect staff/customers health.
They are just saying what makes people buy papers as per...
Mation
real life adventure worth more than pieces of gold
I'm seeing several people fall foul of using lfts to allow them to do something, rather than to prevent them from doing something they would otherwise have to. Lfts negative before everyone goes to a thing, then several testing positive after it.
Cloo
Banana for scale
I know it's not a panacea, but we have been spreading out seeing people or being indoors at anything so hoping that lowers the chance of any issues.I'm seeing several people fall foul of using lfts to allow them to do something, rather than to prevent them from doing something they would otherwise have to. Lfts negative before everyone goes to a thing, then several testing positive after it.
Elpenor
a clown’s heart and a mandolin
I’ve been putting my blind faith in LFTs this Christmas period. All the adults have done them but can’t do much about the young kids. Hopefully I’ll get away with this approach, last interaction is TuesdayI'm seeing several people fall foul of using lfts to allow them to do something, rather than to prevent them from doing something they would otherwise have to. Lfts negative before everyone goes to a thing, then several testing positive after it.
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