Glastonbury 2009

[Looby]

What kind of thing are you after? What didn't work for you with Park Home?

(btw I think the thefts were everywhere. Even Cockmill got done. My guess is there were a few groups, working their way round.)

I dunno really, just fancied somewhere different but we'll probably end up back in pennards.

Hated holts-too noisy, don't want anywhere too close to other stage or dance and apart from the first year I've never camped over the other side.

I think pennards is pretty good because It's easy to get to everything and it's only the other end of the railway from trash city.

We just bought our booze. We're not taking beer this year, we'd rather take some more cash. We bought a litre of vodka, 70cl dark rum and 70cl of bourbon.

 

[paolo]

Pennards has always looked "a bit much" for me, but if you got on with it ok then probably a sound choice. Handy for the late night bit as you say, and the Park (one of my favourite daytime places). But you could scoot along the railway track - made for trolleying! - and dash up to Dragon, if you're early enough.

I've always been on the "uncool" side, in Cockmill. WoW decided to "go north" to the farm, so I decided to join him & debs, with the intention of getting shifts together, making some communal space, them giving me a lift... etc etc... all very symbiotic.

But in the last month I've got to know the organisers of the different late night areas and would love to be in Dragon so my blags are on my doorstep Gah! But WoW and I forged the plan some time back, so I won't be welching.

 

[Looby]

Pennards has always looked "a bit much" for me, but if you got on with it ok then probably a sound choice. Handy for the late night bit as you say, and the Park (one of my favourite daytime places). But you could scoot along the railway track - made for trolleying! - and dash up to Dragon, if you're early enough.

I've always been on the "uncool" side, in Cockmill. WoW decided to "go north" to the farm, so I decided to join him & debs, with the intention of getting shifts together, making some communal space, them giving me a lift... etc etc... all very symbiotic.

But in the last month I've got to know the organisers of the different late night areas and would love to be in Dragon so my blags are on my doorstep Gah! But WoW and I forged the plan some time back, so I won't be welching.

I'm sure he won't mind if you really want to be in Dragon. We might give it a go too.

 

[paolo]

I'm sure he won't mind if you really want to be in Dragon. We might give it a go too.

Naaah...he would be fine about it I'm sure, but he did me a massive favour last year, meeting me at PGA, helping lug some of my gear across the site, and this year him and Debs are giving me a few lifts.

And of course there's a slightly selfish reason... at least if I'm camped with them and we're doing the same shifts, there's less chance of me fucking up and being late, if it's an early!

(oh and there's the shower block at the farm... )

 

[Looby]

(oh and there's the shower block at the farm... )

Ooh a big plus.

 

[paolo]

Ooh a big plus.

I know. I think I'm getting old. I did my first ever festival shower there on the Tuesday last year, and it was soooooo nice.

And there's big laundrette type washing machines too. But we won't need those. Because IT WILL NOT be muddy.

 

[Riklet]

[JammyCunt]Ok so i applied through this competition to get a ticket in exchange for a few bar shifts... just got an e-mail saying I WON!!!!!![/jammycunt]



I am so fucking chuffed! It's on! Make it sunny oh mighty weather gods...

 

[Riff]

Ooh! It's this month, you know!

 

[Sunray]

I'm now doing the early shift for Oxfam at Glastonbury, get to see the festival from another angle.

I was looking at the revamped Cinema tent, properly gone to town with that. Nice line up. Being in a tent, not gonna freeze to death, which occurs most days no matter what the weather.

 

[r0cky]

But in the last month I've got to know the organisers of the different late night areas and would love to be in Dragon so my blags are on my doorstep Gah! But WoW and I forged the plan some time back, so I won't be welching.

Come to Dragon Paolo!

Although I think I'm going back to Williams this year. It's just too much of a rush to try and get into Dragon, and all you crew peeps get there early!

William's also isn't quite as manic at night time, but of course you still get Shangri La / Arcadia until 6AM! But Dragon has some nice flat parts, and being small, it's easy to get in/out of the field.

BTW- As Paolo says, the tent thefts were all over, Dragon was done last year - and tent next to us got slashed.

 

[jontz01]

I'm now doing the early shift for Oxfam at Glastonbury, get to see the festival from another angle.

I was looking at the revamped Cinema tent, properly gone to town with that. Nice line up. Being in a tent, not gonna freeze to death, which occurs most days no matter what the weather.

wooooo me too, second year running....

Is this your first Oxfam session? I love having a 'secure' field - I keep my big tent up there, it's like a home... I can have a proper shower, decent sleep, food etc - then head back into the site for a couple of days until I'm ready to sleep and revitalise again...

It worked a treat last year, we had 4 empty (apart from a bottle of water and rollmat) tents on site shared between a few friends - one in each corner, used as communal crashpads. Was great when you hadn't seen someone for a day or two then find a note and a present in one of them.

Hopefully see you there! I was thinking of an Urban75/Oxfam meet... I'll make a flag or banner so keep your eyes peeled

 

[Ranbay]

the line up for the cinema is on the offical site now

 

[Badgers]

Showing the football?

 

[Sunray]

wooooo me too, second year running....

Is this your first Oxfam session? I love having a 'secure' field - I keep my big tent up there, it's like a home... I can have a proper shower, decent sleep, food etc - then head back into the site for a couple of days until I'm ready to sleep and revitalise again...

It worked a treat last year, we had 4 empty (apart from a bottle of water and rollmat) tents on site shared between a few friends - one in each corner, used as communal crashpads. Was great when you hadn't seen someone for a day or two then find a note and a present in one of them.

Hopefully see you there! I was thinking of an Urban75/Oxfam meet... I'll make a flag or banner so keep your eyes peeled

I did Oxfam last year which was Are you on Earlies? Perhaps meet in the pub on the Sat if you are. I can't imagine there are many Urban Oxfam on that shift.

Prolly best if everyone who's not on shift come to the standard Urban75 meet up, which has been a little ill defined in the past. I think I shall try to rectify this...

I'm not sure what I am going to do with the tent situation, really don't want to put up my main tent twice (big) but I'm not sure I can pitch it before Tuesday inside the fence, so may well have to. How this pans out, I think, will entirely be down to the weather.

 

[RaverDrew]

I'm getting the urge to go to Glastonbury for the first time in 10 years.

 

[Onket]

I'm getting the urge to go to Glastonbury for the first time in 10 years.

I doubt I'll get that urge again. We'd only be disappointed anyway.

 

[Oswaldtwistle]

Here's a scary exercise. In 1989 a Glastonbury ticket cost 28 quid. (source http://www.glastonburyfestivals.co.uk/history/1989/)

Now put that figure into the inflation calculator here http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/historic-inflation-calculator

For comparison, the actual cost for tickets this year was 175 quid, plus parking and booking fees.....

 

[El Jefe]

Here's a scary exercise. In 1989 a Glastonbury ticket cost 28 quid. (source http://www.glastonburyfestivals.co.uk/history/1989/)

Now put that figure into the inflation calculator here http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/historic-inflation-calculator

For comparison, the actual cost for tickets this year was 175 quid, plus parking and booking fees.....

it's not analogous though - there are more stages, more facilities, dramatically increased policing and security fees imposed upon on them etc etc etc.

And I suspect if you did a similar comparision with, say, a gig ticket over the same period you'd get similar results

 

[Oswaldtwistle]

Sure. It just goes to show how dramatically those policing and security fees have increased, though

 

[belboid]

it's not analogous though - there are more stages, more facilities, dramatically increased policing and security fees imposed upon on them etc etc etc.

And I suspect if you did a similar comparision with, say, a gig ticket over the same period you'd get similar results

be interestng to check.

My first gig was £3.50 (Ozzy Osbourne, 1980), my first Glastonbury was £16 (1985). Less than a giro, even an under 25's giro. I must have gig tickets from 85 lying around at home too, but I doubt a medium sized gig would have been over £8 tops, generally less.

Glastonbury has undoubtedly gone up by a vastly larger amount than most gigs, but, as you say, there are more stages, more legal hoops to jump through. And rather bigger bands, iirr the Bunnymen & Joe Cocker were headliners then, with the absymal King second or third on the bill.

 

[Sunray]

Money's value on average, halves ever decade or so. So 10 quid now is what 5 quid was in 1989 which is what that checker is saying.

So the cost has gone up 300% in real terms since 1989, but given what's on offer its still not too bad value, though at 175 I think they are at their maximum for the moment. You can't take most of what is on offer in, it might be an impressive line up, only one of me, so how much am I paying for stuff I can never ever see.

It will be interesting to see what people are charging for food in the place this year, its was 5-8 quid for a meal last time.

I am tempted to bring a stove and cook.

 

[Oswaldtwistle]

Money's value on average, halves ever decade or so.

Nah, not anymore. It's more like halves every 2 decades.

So a 1989 Glast ticket is 50-odd quid in todays money. The price has more than tripled in real terms.

 

[LilMissHissyFit]

But if you want to get a ticket for one concert for some of the acts on the bill you'd be paying £50+ per ticket

which means, even in 'real terms' disregarding comparisons with inflation etc you are still getting bloody good value for money with all the stuff there is over the 4-5 days you are there

 

[bus]

also useful to remember that it used to make a hideous loss every year. Also, a large number of costly "improvements" were required for the license in later years - million quid's worth of fence for a start...

it's not analogous though - there are more stages, more facilities, dramatically increased policing and security fees imposed upon on them etc etc etc.

And I suspect if you did a similar comparision with, say, a gig ticket over the same period you'd get similar results

 

[paolo]

Nah, not anymore. It's more like halves every 2 decades.

So a 1989 Glast ticket is 50-odd quid in todays money. The price has more than tripled in real terms.

50 odd quid would just about get five days in an empty campsite these days.

The extra 125 for all the other stuff is good value for me.

Compare it with an arena festival like Reading, with all the extra charges, and it's a no-brainer.

 

[Looby]

50 odd quid would just about get five days in an empty campsite these days.

The extra 125 for all the other stuff is good value for me.

Compare it with an arena festival like Reading, with all the extra charges, and it's a no-brainer.

This ^^^ It's well worth it imo.

 

[newbie]

Here's a scary exercise. In 1989 a Glastonbury ticket cost 28 quid. (source http://www.glastonburyfestivals.co.uk/history/1989/)

Now put that figure into the inflation calculator here http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/historic-inflation-calculator

For comparison, the actual cost for tickets this year was 175 quid, plus parking and booking fees.....

fwiw in 1982 they were eight quid... according to the calculator that's £21.20 in todays money.

One of the factors in the inflation is the national minimum wage, which applies to all crew these days. In the past all the volunteers cost the festival little or nothing except the ticket, now everybody doing a shift costs nmw plus all the costs associated with employing people. That alone must add a fair whack into each ticket.

 

[bluestreak]

This ^^^ It's well worth it imo.

Yup, i spent 30 quid on three nights in a basic camp site without a single fucking band or dealer the other week. Still good value for me!

 

[belboid]

also useful to remember that it used to make a hideous loss every year. Also, a large number of costly "improvements" were required for the license in later years - million quid's worth of fence for a start...

mo it didnt. it gave 100k to CND most years they were the main benefactors

 

[Sunray]

fwiw in 1982 they were eight quid... according to the calculator that's £21.20 in todays money.

One of the factors in the inflation is the national minimum wage, which applies to all crew these days. In the past all the volunteers cost the festival little or nothing except the ticket, now everybody doing a shift costs nmw plus all the costs associated with employing people. That alone must add a fair whack into each ticket.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/volunteer