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Glastonbury 2007 pt1: the build-up

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I am not really that bothered about the increased security and ticket application stuff. Yes, its a bit OTT, but it is not really that much hassle.

And if it stops ticket touting (which for a sell-out event like Glasto would happen on a big big scale) then that has to be a good thing.

Regarding the big fence and no getting in without a ticket:

I definitely don't miss the big gangs of c*nts who came to the festival purely to rob as much of other people's stuff as they possibly could. They didn't give a shit about the hippy "vibe" - they were just there to steal and rip people off.

I like being able to leave stuff in my tent and be fairly confident that it will still be there later on.

Giles..
 
Just got a mailout from the Waterboys, which confirms they are playing 3 sets :eek: on three seperate stages at Glasto this year.

Hope they play as well as they did on the Pyramid a few years back...

But as i've just said on efests, surely they could drop one of the sets to make way for the legend that is ROLF Harris :D :cool:
 
Finally just got round to registering online... 1,203,*** :eek:
I registered my gf 10 minutes later and the number had increased by 250!

Here's to a lucky April and a hot dry June! :D
 
mr steev said:
Finally just got round to registering online... 1,203,*** :eek:
I registered my gf 10 minutes later and the number had increased by 250!

Here's to a lucky April and a hot dry June! :D
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I've just registered and the number was 1,205,***
 
TopCat said:
:) If I rolled up at Unsound Sunbound to find a fuck off great big fence around the beach, faced being searched on the way in, found myself subject to huge amounts of corporate advertising everywhere and got asked for £145 for a ticket then I would be more than a bit pissed off.

Yes I would remember the lovely times I had previously. I would not go again though.
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I understand that. However, the contrast is not with another event, it's with what went before. Every year the festival sells-out some cherished memory. As I've tried to say, however romantic the tipi field may have appeared in the past few years, there was plenty of scope for cynicism. Much the same applies to Lost Vagueness, with it's hotel quarter. The symbolism of such icons isn't at all clear, so why should a change form a line in the sand?. There are other, clearer, symbols of what the festival means which are much less changed.

We all choose our own symbolic lines in the sand. Plenty of people have stopped going at different times, boldly proclaiming 'Enough' and citing all sorts of sellouts (beer tents, allowing the police onsite, the fence). They're missed, of course :(
 
newbie said:
I understand that. However, the contrast is not with another event, it's with what went before. Every year the festival sells-out some cherished memory. As I've tried to say, however romantic the tipi field may have appeared in the past few years, there was plenty of scope for cynicism. Much the same applies to Lost Vagueness, with it's hotel quarter. The symbolism of such icons isn't at all clear, so why should a change form a line in the sand?. There are other, clearer, symbols of what the festival means which are much less changed.

We all choose our own symbolic lines in the sand. Plenty of people have stopped going at different times, boldly proclaiming 'Enough' and citing all sorts of sellouts (beer tents, allowing the police onsite, the fence). They're missed, of course :(
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Excellent post, newbie. :) I stopped going after 2004 primarily 'cos - while still always having a good time - I remember thinking how, for the last few years of my attendance, everything was always in the same place. The place just stopped surprising me. Odd (for me) that some people are getting het up about things moving.
 
Good news for William & all other ale-fiends. Woodfordes have confirmed that they will be supplying their Wherry bitter to the WBC bars again this year & a choice of "several" of their beers at the Red Flag Bar.
 
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Not all criticism is sneering and negative William
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As the context made clear, I only meant k_s's, and that was another thread. He's clarified now though, and I apologised to him..

Don't forget I've made some pretty sharp criticisms of Glasto myself. You want to have seen my earlier rant against Bud-Shite/against Glasto and WBC compromisng with corporate scum Anseuser Busch -- I pulled no puncjhes and have several times ranted that that's unforgiveable!

They (AB) have now been sacked, I claim no real credit but maybe just a very little bit -- views of folks like me about the Bud subject are now better known..

They've been replaced by a very very marginally more put-up-withable arrangement for the beer tents ;)

And the Real Ale Bar contract is individually separately awarded, apparantly. I have trade and CAMRA sources .... some degree of protection against total monopoly. Loads of small/independent/local brewery sourced ales in that tent.

. How long will you defend the changes that have happend at Glasto? How far do they have to go before you say ENOUGH!
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"Defending" or asking for more informative/informed/better directed criticism??

More of those from me later ... :p
 
Tort said:
Good news for William & all other ale-fiends. Woodfordes have confirmed that they will be supplying their Wherry bitter to the WBC bars again this year & a choice of "several" of their beers at the Red Flag Bar.
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Cool. plus many others still, it would seem :) ;)

Tarranau and newbie and sparklefish, excellent posts.

<swigs capitalist ale!!!! :D >
 
han said:
shit, the last day's tomorrow, i need to do our reg forms tonight - mustn't forget,
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Kinnell han, disorganisation is yer middle name!! :eek:

Sure your cat's grandmother isn't getting married that weekend? ;)

It's 20-25 June btw !!!!

<watches han get paniced into YET ANOTHER wedding clash with Glasto that she 'just realises' about ... :p ;) >
 
William of Walworth said:
As the context made clear, I only meant k_s's, and that was another thread. He's clarified now though, and I apologised to him..

Don't forget I've made some pretty sharp criticisms of Glasto myself. You want to have seen my earlier rant against Bud-Shite/against Glasto and WBC compromisng with corporate scum Anseuser Busch -- I pulled no puncjhes and have several times ranted that that's unforgiveable!

They (AB) have now been sacked, I claim no real credit but maybe just a very little bit -- views of folks like me about the Bud subject are now better known..

They've been replaced by a very very marginally more put-up-withable arrangement for the beer tents ;)

And the Real Ale Bar contract is individually separately awarded, apparantly. I have trade and CAMRA sources .... some degree of protection against total monopoly. Loads of small/independent/local brewery sourced ales in that tent.



"Defending" or asking for more informative/informed/better directed criticism??

More of those from me later ... :p
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It's the last I will say on this thread but: I think a reasonable anaology would be to compare the issue of Glastonbury with the New Labour project. How many people defend Glasto in the same manner as old labour types within the party? How many attacks on the working classes, how many wars will it take before old labour types wash their hands of it and say no more, lets organise something else?
 
William of Walworth said:
Kinnell han, disorganisation is yer middle name!! :eek:
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I know :oops: ...hope the website doesn't crash with all the other disorganised peeps signing up!:eek:

William of Walworth said:
Sure your cat's grandmother isn't getting married that weekend? ;)
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Oh god...I seem to recall......<runs off to ring cat's grannie> :D
 
TopCat said:
It's the last I will say on this thread but: I think a reasonable anaology would be to compare the issue of Glastonbury with the New Labour project. How many people defend Glasto in the same manner as old labour types within the party? How many attacks on the working classes, how many wars will it take before old labour types wash their hands of it and say no more, lets organise something else?
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I don't think the analogy holds that much weight.. BUT

the difference is that i don't know that you could 'organise something else'. Glastonbury - flawed as it is - is so well-established that despite the endless council crackdowns, it still has a lot going for it. Compare that with the nightmares / cancellations / nonsense that any new festivals have to endure and then see whether you think it's feasible - in the current climate - to come up with something
 
Lisarocket said:
That's all us last minute types who've just remembered it's nearly the end of Feb :D
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It made me feel better to see others who'd left it til the last minute. I posted mine yesterday, and me mate emailed today to say she'd just submitted hers online :D
 
Just registered, woopee! :)

But...oh no....cat's grandma is getting married that weekend.

Shit.
 
TopCat said:
It's the last I will say on this thread but: I think a reasonable anaology would be to compare the issue of Glastonbury with the New Labour project. How many people defend Glasto in the same manner as old labour types within the party? How many attacks on the working classes, how many wars will it take before old labour types wash their hands of it and say no more, lets organise something else?
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Dubversion said:
I don't think the analogy holds that much weight.. BUT

the difference is that i don't know that you could 'organise something else'. Glastonbury - flawed as it is - is so well-established that despite the endless council crackdowns, it still has a lot going for it. Compare that with the nightmares / cancellations / nonsense that any new festivals have to endure and then see whether you think it's feasible - in the current climate - to come up with something
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Bit in bold : exactly.

And newbie had it right earlier anyway. What would I and people like the Rockets achieve by staying at hime and 'boycotting' it??

There's still enough at Glasto to engage and please old schoolers such as newbie, the Rockets, me and Dub. There needs to be enough of us still going to keep up the variety of audience. We can apply informed criticisms of some of the more dubious newer changes, not all of which criticisms (such as mine and others' relentless anti-Bud Shite/anti Ansheuser Busch corporate scum campaign on various festie related websites) fall on enitrely deaf ears ...

And Michael Eavis is in no way Blair like in his authoritarianism -- the comparison is an insult.

So much has been imposed on him, but he keeps it going.

Could go further, too much else to catch up on though ...
 
finally registered, although not sure i'm definitely going to try for tickets yet. Will see how I feel when april gets closer... :)
 
I registered last night.

My number was in the region of 1251000...Does that mean that roughly 250,000 people have registered?
 
William of Walworth said:
Tis IMPORTANT NEWS!!!! :eek:

Just picked up on this just now, about to verify so I can email my tardy mates who aren't on here or on efests ...
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they could just look at the main site where it says so in big fat letters!
 
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