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Glastonbury 2007 pt1: the build-up

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It would be £270= for each person in a group of six.

Ie £150= for actual Glasto ticket, £120= for your bit of the tipi ...

More to say on this, but the pub calls soon ....
 
beesonthewhatnow said:
Souns a bit like that camp whatsitsname the other year...
Camp Kerala. That's there again this year.

btw, I just registered myself and mr moose. 11889xx for me, and mr moose's registration 60 seconds later gave him a number which was 50-odd more, so it looks like there's a late flurry.
 
William of Walworth said:
It would be £270= for each person in a group of six.

Ie £150= for actual Glasto ticket, £120= for your bit of the tipi ...

More to say on this, but the pub calls soon ....

£720 per tipi...
 
Jyust catching uop

beesonthewhatnow said:
Souns a bit like that camp whatsitsname the other year...

Difference in price being well over £4,000 .....the difference being in the current tipi field arrangements' favour ....

You do know that the Kamp KokeheadSloanearala chalets in 2005 cost somewere in the region of £6,000 don't you?
 
William of Walworth said:
Difference in price being well over £4,000 .....the difference being in the current tipi field arrangements' favour ....

You do know that the Kamp KokeheadSloanearala chalets in 2005 cost somewere in the region of £6,000 don't you?


Your kidding yeah?
 
TopCat said:

I don't deny that all this is generally shit, and I'm pretty unhappy about the site of the tipi field being moved.

But there's a boringly inconvenioient fact involved : that the coat of hiring a tipi on its own in the 2002-2005 period exceeded the cost of the tipi element of 2007's cost. I have checked this with 'Breeze' of efestivals, who hired a tipi with his mates in 2004. He was going through a brief period of California based afflunce, now back in Scotland and only partly employed ...
 
TopCat said:
Your kidding yeah?

No. The Kamp Kerala Kosts were monstrous -- I've researched it.

Little known fact in slight mitigation : the KK field ws nothing officially or indeed in any way to do with the Glastonbury Festival at all. It was a field hired by a private company from a neighbouring farmer, and was not part of the official set up ...

Somehow though, and I'd agree this aspect is shit, KK people were in some way guarenteed tickets ....
 
TopCat said:
£720 per tipi...

For the whole tipi -- indeed pricey :( :( :mad:

But it would seem that it was that significant bit more pricey before -- will grab the full figures when I can.

What I'd really like to know is what proportion of the new tipi field will be filled by hired tipis -- 100%, or less?

To what extent will the old traditional Tipi Valley sorts be involved still?

:confused: :(
 
Bollocks

After getting my reg forms last weekend, I have still to fill them in and send em off - completely forgot! Must.do.tomorrow
 
William of Walworth said:
Indeed pricey
But it would seem that it was that significant bit more pricey before -- will grab the full figures when I can.

What I'd really like to know is what proportion of the new tipi field will be filled by hired tipis -- 100%, or less?

To what extent will the old traditional Tipi Valley sorts be involved still?

:confused: :(


What? It was worse before?:confused:
 
tomorrow is the 26th, and the closing is 28th! I hope you trust the royal mail!
(or do it online if you possibly can)
 
I know I know *holds hands up* I even brought them home from work cos I never got the chance to do them there - but got caught up in reading and stuff :(

I'll send em tomorrow
 
William of Walworth said:
For the whole tipi -- indeed pricey :( :( :mad:

But it would seem that it was that significant bit more pricey before -- will grab the full figures when I can.
It's not the cost that's the issue, though, really. The Tipi field was peaceful haven open to anyone to wander into, to enjoy a cuppa and often a bit of a tune round a fire. Now it's outside the fence, so probably not open to all, and allows people booking tipis the ability to acquire 6 tickets at once, a facility not open to other groups of punters.
(the cost might be lower because previously they weren't rented by the festival, but by a company in Cornwall IIRC.)
 
moose said:
It's not the cost that's the issue, though, really. The Tipi field was peaceful haven open to anyone to wander into, to enjoy a cuppa and often a bit of a tune round a fire. Now it's outside the fence, so probably not open to all, and allows people booking tipis the ability to acquire 6 tickets at once, a facility not open to other groups of punters.
(the cost might be lower because previously they weren't rented by the festival, but by a company in Cornwall IIRC.)

That's truly rubbish. The tipi field was one of those interesting little things that set glastonbury apart from all the other big festivals-turning it into another moneymaking scheme seems symbolic of the slow death of glastonbury :(
 
Agree, but think the field might have died a fair bit already. I used to love it as a little hidden place to go and chill out when it all got a bit hectic. Last time i went there for that purpose, i felt like i was sitting in an exhibit of some sort, with hundreds of people wandering past filming and taking photos, not what i needed!

Remember going there in 1999 or so as well, and being introduced to a shabbily dressed but well spoken tipi dweller who turned out to be an auctioneer for sothebys!
 
k_s said:
That's truly rubbish. The tipi field was one of those interesting little things that set glastonbury apart from all the other big festivals-turning it into another moneymaking scheme seems symbolic of the slow death of glastonbury :(

Yes,. well, I know what your negative sneery attitude is like from the other thread.

Moose, I was agreeing with you, and still think I do to a fair extent, but I've been trying to get more details. We shouldn't assume there'll be no general access, in fact I'm hearing the contrary. The existing tipi field had more and more tipis in it every year, an ever growing proportion of them for the last few years rented from hire companies, so the money making aspect isn't new. It'd be hard to argue that the existing field wasn't beginning to get overcrowded, we don't know for sure either that a move to a quieter and larger space wasn't requested by the tipi people themselves.

I'm not delighted myself that the 'solution' chosen is outside the fence, but I posted earlier up this thread with a map. The suggested new field is very close to Vehicle Gate 3A, whch used to be crew vehicles only, but will probably now be converted to a general pedestrian as well as vehicle access gate. I also speculated on how the move might not necessarily be a bad thing in every way.
 
William of Walworth said:
I don't deny that all this is generally shit, and I'm pretty unhappy about the site of the tipi field being moved.

But there's a boringly inconvenioient fact involved : that the coat of hiring a tipi on its own in the 2002-2005 period exceeded the cost of the tipi element of 2007's cost. I have checked this with 'Breeze' of efestivals, who hired a tipi with his mates in 2004. He was going through a brief period of California based afflunce, now back in Scotland and only partly employed ...

I stayed in a tipi with some mates in 2004 and it cost £300. Mind you, the lad we hired it off said we shouldn't tell our neighbours as they'd paid £500 for theirs (i won the auction and they had paid the 'buy it now price' on ebay), which was still cheaper than the £720 that it costs now...
 
William of Walworth said:
Yes,. well, I know what your negative sneery attitude is like from the other thread.

Moose, I was agreeing with you, and still think I do to a fair extent, but I've been trying to get more details. We shouldn't assume there'll be no general access, in fact I'm hearing the contrary. The existing tipi field had more and more tipis in it every year, an ever growing proportion of them for the last few years rented from hire companies, so the money making aspect isn't new. It'd be hard to argue that the existing field wasn't beginning to get overcrowded, we don't know for sure either that a move to a quieter and larger space wasn't requested by the tipi people themselves.

I'm not delighted myself that the 'solution' chosen is outside the fence, but I posted earlier up this thread with a map. The suggested new field is very close to Vehicle Gate 3A, whch used to be crew vehicles only, but will probably now be converted to a general pedestrian as well as vehicle access gate. I also speculated on how the move might not necessarily be a bad thing in every way.

Not all criticism is sneering and negative William. How long will you defend the changes that have happend at Glasto? How far do they have to go before you say ENOUGH!
 
I diiid it, I fuckin diiid it

*does a little happy hippy dance*

I FINALLY got my arse into gear and the reg forms are going off today, next day delivery. I've told the Receptionist she's sacked if she forgets it! :D Well, I reckon it comes under gross misconduct, don't you?
 
TopCat said:
Not all criticism is sneering and negative William. How long will you defend the changes that have happend at Glasto? How far do they have to go before you say ENOUGH!

why should that become necessary? 'Enough' is a mstter of personal taste- if you enjoy it, go, if not don't. There's no medals for cutting off your nose to spite your face, whatever the provocation. I'm fairly sure poor William would be bereft to sit at home that weekend in defence of resistance to change. I know I would.

Anyway it's not so different to what's gone before.

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:) If I rolled up at Unsound Sunbound to find a fuck off great big fence around the beach, faced being searched on the way in, found myself subject to huge amounts of corporate advertising everywhere and got asked for £145 for a ticket then I would be more than a bit pissed off.

Yes I would remember the lovely times I had previously. I would not go again though.

<Apologies to sus for the anology, I know you would sooner cut off yer legs and eat them before selling out>:)
 
Aye, but it's hardly Unsound Sunbound in scale though is it?

Leaving aside all the unnecessarily convoluted application form nonsense, it's fairly obvious that Glastonbury have had most of the measures forced on them. If there wasn't a fence and all that security, as unappetising as it seems, there simply wouldn't allow Glastonbury to go ahead.
 
tarannau said:
Aye, but it's hardly Unsound Sunbound in scale though is it?

Leaving aside all the unnecessarily convoluted application form nonsense, it's fairly obvious that Glastonbury have had most of the measures forced on them. If there wasn't a fence and all that security, as unappetising as it seems, there simply wouldn't allow Glastonbury to go ahead.

Exactly, and yes there are changes that people are uncomfortable with but there are also positive changes. I feel much safer there than I did the first couple of years I went and I don't feel as crushed as I used to. It was great when everyone jumped the fence la la la but it was also bloody dangerous and as tarannau says, we could have lost the festival completely if something wasn't done.
 
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