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Gammon is not racist

When we had these Islam islamophobia discussions 14, 15 years ago they were so much better
We did, and they were. But JuanTwoThree ’s middle paragraph is still correct.

I think we’ve probably gone far too far down this route to be able to make the point without people misunderstanding and talking past me, but there is a perfectly good word for racism. Even racism that is masquerading as criticism of a philosophy or cultural practises. So I’d prefer we just called it racism. But let’s be clear: just because some people use criticism of a philosophy or cultural practises as a cover, does not mean that those things should be immune from criticism. Because that’s a dangerous route. And one we’re already a long way down.
 
We did, and they were. But JuanTwoThree ’s middle paragraph is still correct.

I think we’ve probably gone far too far down this route to be able to make the point without people misunderstanding and talking past me, but there is a perfectly good word for racism. Even racism that is masquerading as criticism of a philosophy or cultural practises. So I’d prefer we just called it racism. But let’s be clear: just because some people use criticism of a philosophy or cultural practises as a cover, does not mean that those things should be immune from criticism. Because that’s a dangerous route. And one we’re already a long way down.

Good post. There are elements of some strains of Islam I'm not keen on (like most people), but there are few cases I've seen where comments related to this are not easily distinguishable from the thinly-veiled racism. The fact that those Sikhs, Christians and atheists that get "anti-Islamic" abuse on the street never seem to be white gives the lie to the whole enterprise, and "it's not racism because Islam isn't a race" is often a red flag for this poor subterfuge.
 
the far right used to particularly target south asian people for racist abuse.

now they have dropped all the racism and are particularly targeting muslims.

completely different obviously. tough on the muslims - but i bet them south asian people are relieved.
 
Is it racist to say that female South-East Asian bricklayers are genetically pre-disposed to make excellent cat burglars?
 
Hmmm. I like pineapple if it’s cold and maybe comes with other fruit.

Mixing it with hot food is an abomination.

Especially pizza. :(
I thought gammon had to be served with pineapple?

Although, I’ve been a vegetarian for 35 years. I don’t think I’ve seen gammon since the 70s. So it might be a 70s thing.

Also, in my life, I’d only ever heard it called “gammon steak”. The same way that people only ever used to say “tuna fish”. Was the “steak” dropped around the time people stopped saying “tuna fish”?
 
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Although, I’ve been a vegetarian for 35 years. I don’t think I’ve seen gammon since the 70s. So it might be a 70s thing.

Also, in my life, I’d only ever heard it called “gammon steak”. The same way that people only ever used to say “tuna fish”. Was the “steak” dropped around the time people stopped saying “tuna fish”?

It might have been gammon steak to differentiate it from thinly sliced gammon sold ready to eat whether on a plate or to put in sandwiches.
 
No, I have in mind sort of cold ham stuff. It might be one of those naming oddities, called gammon in Scotland but something else elsewhere.

Really, the gammon "steak" thing might just be there to suggest "big! thick! chunky!" to the consumer.
 
No, I have in mind sort of cold ham stuff. It might be one of those naming oddities, called gammon in Scotland but something else elsewhere.

Really, the gammon "steak" thing might just be there to suggest "big! thick! chunky!" to the consumer.
I remember my granny used to have rules I never understood as to when she’d call bacon “ham”. A “ham and egg flan” had bacon in it. Never got to grips with the rules there.
 
I thought gammon had to be served with pineapple?

Although, I’ve been a vegetarian for 35 years. I don’t think I’ve seen gammon since the 70s. So it might be a 70s thing.

Also, in my life, I’d only ever heard it called “gammon steak”. The same way that people only ever used to say “tuna fish”. Was the “steak” dropped around the time people stopped saying “tuna fish”?
You can get a quorn gammon steak
 
I thought gammon had to be served with pineapple?

Although, I’ve been a vegetarian for 35 years. I don’t think I’ve seen gammon since the 70s. So it might be a 70s thing.

Also, in my life, I’d only ever heard it called “gammon steak”. The same way that people only ever used to say “tuna fish”. Was the “steak” dropped around the time people stopped saying “tuna fish”?
They swapped, so now it's tuna steak and gammon fish.
 
It were funny with Elsie, God rest her soul.
She’d eat bacon all day long, but she’d never touch gammon.
– Oh.
– What do you think to that? Oh, I love a bit of the old gammo, me.
(Barbara) Oh, I like a bit of gammon.
– Especially with a bit of pineapple.
– Ooh.
– Do you, Barbara? – Yeah.
I like gammon.
And I like pineapple.
– But I don’t like gammon and pineapple.
– (Both) Oh.
I mean, to me that’s sweet and sour, that.
They’re two different meals.
I like gammon and egg.
I like gammon and chips.
– But I quite like – Bloody hell, Dave! All right, we’ve got the picture about the bloody gammo.


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I'll stick this here because the other flare up threads have been closed, but well done to spy for getting the nonce kicked off. I'm (really) not having a go at the mods, nor spy's afters with the mods, just saying fair play for getting on and making an issue of it. Probably like others I vaguely remember odd posts and thinking wtf, but never getting a cumulative memory of kesher gruesome posting history. Spy did, so well done. :thumbs:
 
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