French Presidential elections

[stethoscope]

Edit: Sky reporting that Le Pen 'temporarily stepping down as leader to concentrate on presidential bid'

 

[Lord Camomile]

France elections: Le Pen 'steps aside' as party leader - BBC News

So she's still in the presidential race, just not as leader of FN?

 

[ska invita]

clever

i guess she hopes people might now vote for her who wouldn't vote national front.

she'll spend the next days washing in rose petals with evenings in church...

 

[gosub]

Pah! Clearly trying to emulate the "wtf" that UK brought to the political scene.

 

[redsquirrel]

Another piece of garbage from the Guardian's France specialist

France did save its honour on Sunday. In the era of Brexit and Trump, this vote was a major pushback against forces that threaten the fundamental democratic values the west is meant to uphold. That Emmanuel Macron, the strongest liberal, reformist and pro-EU voice, came out first was impressive.

And what do you know, that Mélenchon is a racist.

Worryingly, the leftwing candidate, Jean-Luc Mélenchon, has so far refused to choose between Macron and Le Pen. If playing with fire in politics means anything, this was it. Mélenchon spoke dismissively of both, as if unable or unwilling to see the difference.

 

[stethoscope]

Another piece of garbage from the Guardian's France specialist

And what do you know, that Mélenchon is a racist.

Ugh! That's the third I've seen from her like that.

 

[gentlegreen]

clever

i guess she hopes people might now vote for her who wouldn't vote national front.

she'll spend the next days washing in rose petals with evenings in church...

Or taking part in a "Fête Jeanne d'Arc" somewhere ..

 

[ska invita]

don't be stoopid, be a smarty, come and join Marines French army

 

[Idris2002]

Death of a party:

And the birth of a new force?

 

[redsquirrel]

Hmmm, colour me skeptical. When they start building up second/third places, overtaking the PS, consistently then I might be convinced but ATM I think there's a lot of work to be done before it's a force.

 

[Dom Traynor]

Which hopefully is what they will build on towards the assembly elections. I think Melanchon is dead right tactically to refuse to endorse the Neoliberal bastard. Even if I would quietly vote Macron in a way I wouldn't have for the racist crook.

 

[redsquirrel]

I agree about the endorsement for Macron, my concern about the assembly elections is that there's only a weak base there, that a lot of the vote will go back to PS. The FN have been building up their base for 20+ years, Mélechon and co should be following their example on this but it's not a quick, short term process.

 

[Idris2002]

I agree about the endorsement for Macron, my concern about the assembly elections is that there's only a weak base there, that a lot of the vote will go back to PS. The FN have been building up their base for 20+ years, Mélechon and co should be following their example on this but it's not a quick, short term process.

I don't know if it will go back to the PS. That party is in the death spiral, losing a lot of its membership and key militants, and so on.

 

[redsquirrel]

I don't know if it will go back to the PS. That party is in the death spiral, losing a lot of its membership and key militants, and so on.

Not all of it no, but I think a not insignificant part of it will.

 

[treelover]

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What are this guy's politics?

 

[bimble]

Something a bit odd about this being the first and top rated comment on the guardian's latest bit of 'beware le pen' stuff (yesterday). The poster appears to have joined the guardian comments yesterday and brought a four hundred strong following with them.

 

[Idris2002]

What are this guy's politics?

Bullshit probably. My guess is he's the type who votes Fine Gael because they think it's still Garett's party.

 

[Dogsauce]

Something a bit odd about this being the first and top rated comment on the guardian's latest bit of 'beware le pen' stuff (yesterday). The poster appears to have joined the guardian comments yesterday and brought a four hundred strong following with them.
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Putin showing his hand already...

 

[bimble]

err.

 

[hot air baboon]

I don't know if it will go back to the PS. That party is in the death spiral, losing a lot of its membership and key militants, and so on.

not to mention Macron's EM now splitting the centre left vote - assuming it's not totally fake astro-turf - which if so hardly augurs well for his Presidency

 

[bimble]

Le Pen's temporary replacement at the head of FN is a man who said in 2005 that, in his considered opinion, it is impossible that Zyklon B was used to exterminate people in the nazi death camps.
A proper bona fide holocaust denier then. The veneer of respectability is that shallow.

 

[Dom Traynor]

Bullshit probably. My guess is he's the type who votes Fine Gael because they think it's still Garett's p

 

[Dom Traynor]

I agree about the endorsement for Macron, my concern about the assembly elections is that there's only a weak base there, that a lot of the vote will go back to PS. The FN have been building up their base for 20+ years, Mélechon and co should be following their example on this but it's not a quick, short term process.

Potentially but it has to start now and without overselling Melanchon he does seem to be fairly strategic.

I don't think En Marche is AstroTurf but the base is New weak and untested, and it will be for them and Unsubmissive fighting over the wreckage of PS while the latter also go for recent non voters and the former also go for Modems and moderate LRs.

Which is not to say that due to the electoral system and personal votes and strong local personalities PS and LR won't still do pretty well in the legislative elections I will be surprised if they're not the two largest parties in the next assembly.

 

[Idris2002]

err.
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The dirty fucking scum.

 

[agricola]

 

[Dom Traynor]

The dirty fucking scum

 

[redsquirrel]

This article isn't great but it's also not as bad as the title might suggest. But most useful it's got this chart

 

[phillm]

Blog Housekeeping Point 407
25 Apr, 2017 in Uncategorized by craig | View Comments

Marine LePen is an actual racist and fascist. Anybody arguing for her will be permanently banned from commenting on the blog. Fair warning.

 

[redsquirrel]

Well that's probably less stupid than some of the things he comes out with.

Meanwhile

Jean-Luc Mélenchon’s election team has urged his supporters not to cast a single vote for the far-right presidential candidate Marine Le Pen in the final runoff in two weeks’ time.
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“Our friends who want to vote Macron will vote Macron and those who want to vote blank will vote blank. That’s it,” Corbière said. “But nobody should vote FN.”

Though still not good enough for the twats at the Guardian.

The hard-left candidate, Jean-Luc Mélenchon, has, as yet, refused to endorse Macron. This is because he needs – in a move that further reduces the hard-left to its own self-parody – to consult the wishes of his supporters first. Yes, that’s right, he absolutely must have a collective debate about whether or not to endorse the candidate who has, as two of her closest advisers, associates of an unrepentant former SS member. Way to maintain the socialist dream!

 

[bimble]

The second thing you're quoting was published before he said that people should not vote for le Pen .