The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Another article on the Russian far right , this time in relation to the impact of the recent Russian retreat and the 'stab in the back' theory
Fascists, Fascism and the Invasion.
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Photoshop?
spitfire
Walty McWaltface
No, I saw it on the news yesterday (the patch on the back). Made my heart sink a little.
The UA have been using the + as an ID during the recent attack, RU have used many of the the other obvious ones, O, Z so + seems reasonable. Although the way it has been painted on that tank looks....unfortunate, the gaps in the ERA fall just in the wrong (?) place.
This is the company that makes Azov merch -
nogojones
spelling is overrated
The cross things do just seem to be ID tags for vehicles, but yeah, you don't have to delve too deep before you start coming across Bandera flags and shit like this.
With the red/black flags, you can sort of see it just from a Ukrainian nationalist perspective, but there is also a reasonable amount of straight up nazi shit going down on both sides.
With the red/black flags, you can sort of see it just from a Ukrainian nationalist perspective, but there is also a reasonable amount of straight up nazi shit going down on both sides.
spitfire
Walty McWaltface
I'd say it's "a" company that sells AZOV merch.
But that's as far down the road I'm going with that particular argument, we know that there are Nazi's in the UA, this is undeniable.
RD2003
Got a really fucking shitty attitude
Putin is banking on his friends in the Balkans to help sustain his bloody war in Ukraine | Michael Colborne
United in a sense of victimhood, Russia has an ally in far-right Serbian groups. The west underestimates them at its peril, says Michael Colborne a journalist and researcher at Bellingcat
RD2003
Got a really fucking shitty attitude
Putin Has a New Opposition—and It’s Furious at Defeat in Ukraine
Right-wing nationalists are spreading a dangerous “stab-in-the-back” myth to explain Russia’s crushing defeats.
foreignpolicy.com
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
'Remember the gummies' Pro-Kremlin bloggers downplay mobilization by comparing conscripts to candy — Meduza
Using the hashtag #DontPanic, pro-Kremlin bloggers have started comparing conscripted soldiers to french fries and gummies in social media posts about how “small” the scale of the country’s mobilization actually is.
This could go anywhere really but here is as good as anywhere. As if you needed another reason to hate influencers
Taking a leaf out of Israel's book with these propaganda 'techniques' too
RD2003
Got a really fucking shitty attitude
Op-Ed: How Russian battlefield defeats in Ukraine could lead to terrorism in the West
Putin’s desperation over humiliating military losses in his war on Ukraine could lead Moscow to back terror attacks against Western countries.
www.latimes.com
Don't know if this is exactly the right place for this pro-Ukraine article, and I might not have put it here if not for being forbidden from posting on certain other threads, but I suppose these paragraphs apply:
'Another major consequence of Putin’s disastrous invasion of Ukraine is more long-term. With citizens now fleeing Russia in droves to avoid being conscripted and used as cannon fodder, countries in the surrounding region are preparing for an influx of foreigners. Coupled with Ukrainians who have been forced to flee Russia’s indiscriminate shelling of civilian areas, countries across Europe will once again be forced to grapple with domestic tensions that arise from migration.
So far, the wave of migrants from Ukraine and Russia are receiving a friendlier welcome than those who immigrated to Europe from the Middle East and Africa in 2015, when 1.3 million asylum seekers sought refuge. But when large numbers of foreigners arrive in countries, it inevitably leads to political instability, questions of identity and ethnic, religious and socioeconomic tensions.
Historically, such situations lead to a rise in populism, nativism and xenophobia, which far-right political parties use as leverage in the polls. Ironically, those fleeing to third-party countries are doing so to escape Russian atrocities, yet their arrival in new lands will likely give a boost to the same political parties that receive support from Russia. The fringes of these political movements go on to serve as the foot soldiers of the far right, and include neo-Nazis, white supremacists and a range of other ideologically motivated violent extremists. High-profile attacks against migrants and refugees have been carried out by far-right extremists over the past several years in Italy, Sweden, Hungary and elsewhere in Europe.'
mojo pixy
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Op-ed by someone who works for a private Intel and security company called Soufan. I wonder what vested interests Soufan might have in this situation? Or in increasing western governments' / populations' paranoia wrt what Russia might do when it loses, or because it's losing...Op-Ed: How Russian battlefield defeats in Ukraine could lead to terrorism in the West
Putin’s desperation over humiliating military losses in his war on Ukraine could lead Moscow to back terror attacks against Western countries.
Don't know if this is exactly the right place for this pro-Ukraine article, and I might not have put it here if not for being forbidden from posting on certain other threads, but I suppose these paragraphs apply:
'Another major consequence of Putin’s disastrous invasion of Ukraine is more long-term. With citizens now fleeing Russia in droves to avoid being conscripted and used as cannon fodder, countries in the surrounding region are preparing for an influx of foreigners. Coupled with Ukrainians who have been forced to flee Russia’s indiscriminate shelling of civilian areas, countries across Europe will once again be forced to grapple with domestic tensions that arise from migration.
So far, the wave of migrants from Ukraine and Russia are receiving a friendlier welcome than those who immigrated to Europe from the Middle East and Africa in 2015, when 1.3 million asylum seekers sought refuge. But when large numbers of foreigners arrive in countries, it inevitably leads to political instability, questions of identity and ethnic, religious and socioeconomic tensions.
Historically, such situations lead to a rise in populism, nativism and xenophobia, which far-right political parties use as leverage in the polls. Ironically, those fleeing to third-party countries are doing so to escape Russian atrocities, yet their arrival in new lands will likely give a boost to the same political parties that receive support from Russia. The fringes of these political movements go on to serve as the foot soldiers of the far right, and include neo-Nazis, white supremacists and a range of other ideologically motivated violent extremists. High-profile attacks against migrants and refugees have been carried out by far-right extremists over the past several years in Italy, Sweden, Hungary and elsewhere in Europe.'
I'd trust your fear mongering over his. You might seem to enjoy making people feel bad but I have a degree of confidence you're not looking to benefit financially from it.
RD2003
Got a really fucking shitty attitude
I like being thought of as only a second-tier fear-monger. I suppose if your're gonna mong fear, you might as well make some money. But this is why I feel I've had a bit of a fucking second-tier life.
Interesting that you point out who he is, and his vested interest, however. Frankly, I'd be amazed if many, or even any 'pro-Russian westerners' heeded any call to sacrifice themselves in terrorism for Russia.
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mojo pixy
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You do yourself a disservice, I never said and wouldn't say 'second-tier' fear monger. A non-profit fear-monger maybe?
On topic, I suspect any pro-Russian terrorism would be entirely Kremlin-sponsored anyway, therefore carried out by Russians or ex-soviet state citizens who are ex-security services or special forces, or would be carried out online from inside Russia. I agree it's unlikely to be non-natives of Russia's direct sphere of influence, tankies are good at shouting and making banners, but I'd think twice about asking them to plant bombs or poison people.
Soufan and other companies like them will doubtless make a load of money from fear-mongering anyway, that's their business model.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
New Russian Nazi group ( some ex Azov) fighting for Ukraine using the imagery of the Russian Liberation Army who fought alongside the Nazis.
antifascist-europe.org
Russian Volunteer Corps: Denis "WhiteRex" Kapustin is Back in Business - Antifascist Europe
A new unit consisting of Russian volunteers has appeared on the Ukrainian side. It calls itself the Russian Volunteer Corps. Antifascist Europe has concluded that the group is made up of neo-Nazis from Russia, who were organized by the well-known far-right entrepreneur Denis “WhiteRex” Kapustin...
antifascist-europe.org
_Russ_
Never not Knowingly Misunderstood
Yea Ive seen the cross used a lot, but Im not sure this example's resemblance to the Balkenkreuz is unintentional they seem to have carefully avoided the edges of the ERA segments accentuating the gaps.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Fucking Salo! Friend who visited Poland brought me some back (smoked, aged in paprika). Problem is, while I don't mind pork at all, it's so strongly flavoured that I've only been able to use it in cooking!!!
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Your mind had to go there, didn't it, CInzano?120 Days of Sodom indeed
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Run away?
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Fucking Jewish Nazi conspiraloons. You can bet they're descended from those bastards that wrote The Protocols, & founded the Illuminati!
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
"I'll take you on, one at a time or all at once, you Nazi cunts!!! Who's first?".
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
The latter, obviously. However, there are always people who are drawn to violence, who'd do the former if they had the means.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
IME fascists are only interested in debate IF they know they're on home ground, with home support. In any other situation they know they'll get a physical & intellectual shoeing. Every time they step off of home ground, we've been waiting for them. Martin Webster (National Front leader) got so he couldn't even go into his local pubs or go to the shops without people barracking him for being a greasy Nazi cunt - I know, because I was one of the barrackers!
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Anyone who says "violence is never a solution", has never had to quite literally stand guard on their council estate, in order to stop British Movement & National Front supporters from bricking the windows of black & Asian residents. The only way to dissuade those pricks was to run them off, & give them a kicking. It worked. Yes, I have regrets, but they're mostly about the arthritis in my busted knuckles, not about defending my community. I will ALWAYS defend my community, because without community (in the original sense of the word), what are we?
Dystopiary
putting up a hook to hang my hopes upon
Yeah I strongly believe that self-defence is a lot broader than a response to "this person is physically attempting to cause me bodily harm at this moment."
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Korotkikh's call sign is Botsman, btw
ska invita
back on the other side
what does this mean?
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Just a name that is either assigned or self assigned for communication purposes, normally in the military but also in some other government agencies/services.
spitfire
Walty McWaltface
He’s clearly a top end wrong ‘un.
I searched the thread and found this in it.
Explanation re Boatman nickname amongst other stuff here.
russianpropagandabot.blogspot.com
I read the first few sections but it’s very long. Hopefully I haven’t unwittingly spread some sort of disinformation.
(Boatman is called as such because of the knots used to hang his victims, lovely stuff).
I searched the thread and found this in it.
Explanation re Boatman nickname amongst other stuff here.
OPERATION: NOVOROSSIYA Part 6 of 6 , Azov: The Curious Case of the Boatsman
russianpropagandabot.blogspot.com
I read the first few sections but it’s very long. Hopefully I haven’t unwittingly spread some sort of disinformation.
(Boatman is called as such because of the knots used to hang his victims, lovely stuff).
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