Far-right response to Southport Outrage And Ongoing Violent Disorder

[Wilf]

Police powers to be stepped up ahead of 'protests' at Salford Precinct

Shops are reportedly shutting early today with staff sent home ahead of potential disorder in the area

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

Think they're trying it on in Salford.

Aye, probably ties in with this:

Yeah, heard about people getting sent home from Salford today as well.

 

[souljacker]

I'm hearing 'rumours' about a far right demo this Saturday in Reading but haven't seen it listed on hope not hate or seen anything on shitter/fuckbook. If anyone sees anything please let me know.

Also heard an unconfirmed report of a daughter's friend having her hijab forcefully pulled off her while in town today.

 

[barlimo]

Like hell you're not

Yet another wasted post.

 

[Everything Goes]

First social media idiot pleads guilty, thinking hiding behind a keyboard is safe. Bound to be plenty more. Keep them coming...

From Sky News.

First man convicted of stirring up racial hatred for Facebook posts​

A man has become the first suspect to be convicted of stirring up racial hatred during the riots after posting messages on Facebook about attacking a hotel housing asylum seekers.

Jordan Parlour pleaded guilty to using threatening words or behaviour to stir up racial hatred after making advocating an attack on a hotel in Leeds.

The 28-year-old has been remanded in custody ahead of his sentencing on Friday.

The hotel was forced into lockdown on Saturday because of the riots, with at least one of its windows broken during the disorder.

There was no evidence that Parlour attended the hotel.

"I want to be absolutely clear, anyone involved in inciting this thuggish behaviour will face severe consequences," Nick Price, director of legal services at the Crown Prosecution Service said.

"Parlour advocated violence through his online posts and risked the safety of those staying at the hotel.

"The CPS will continue to act swiftly and robustly regarding these cases and ensure those responsible for such deplorable criminality are brought to justice."

 

[belboid]

Yeah, heard about people getting sent home from Salford today as well.

most public and voluntary sector bodies in the centre of Sheffield are advising people to work from, home tomorrow.

 

[krtek a houby]

Yet another wasted post.

Nah, tis good to let people know what kind of person you are.

As said previously, there's righteous anger and criticism of Israeli government and the IDF and those that support them.

And then there's your evil brand of bigotry.

As promised before, will keep on exposing your antimsemitsm even if it gets me banned. Because you are a poor and dangerous advert for newcomers to urban.

 

[kalidarkone]

One thing that I think should be stressed more than it has been: given that the main animus of these thugs is a hatred of immigrants and their offspring, why do they hero worship "Tommy Robinson" (Yaxley-Lennon) who himself is the son of an immigrant?

Because he is white.

 

[Wilf]

As mentioned upthread, I encountered the fash in Blackpool but have come home to discover they might be out here (Bishop Auckland). Partner's daughter heard rumours they might be out last night, then saw an update that it would be tonight. I was in Morrisons this afternoon and started hearing rumours about the town centre being shut down. From conversations, people were saying they were being sent home early from work and that this was (apparently) coming from the police. Got home to hear that the nursery had rung partner's daughter to say they were closing early tonight on police advice. There does though seem to be a bit of confusion as to whether it will happen tonight or tomorrow, which could in turn relate to the long list of targets for Wednesday circulated a day or two back.

None of this might happen and it may remain at the level of rumour, though 'official' rumours. However, I guess similar scrambles to shut things down and send people home early will be happening in different places over the next 48 hours or more.

Gone from possible to probable (Bishop Auckland), ASDA now closed and people locked in. Also, heard reports of kids in balaclavas on bikes and scooters headed this way from a nearby village. Could be the sort of 'protest' that has hardly any ideological fash in it, more an amped up version of the routine kids v cops thing seen in poor areas all the time.

 

[ddraig]

Dickheads sharing made up stuff to scare people and other dickheads going along to it in case
There's a list for Wales which started off as bollocks but now being taken as real
And false footage and claims of things already kicking off last night
Keeping us and vulnerable communities on edge

 

[barlimo]

Nah, tis good to let people know what kind of person you are.

As said previously, there's righteous anger and criticism of Israeli government and the IDF and those that support them.

And then there's your evil brand of bigotry.

As promised before, will keep on exposing your antimsemitsm even if it gets me banned. Because you are a poor and dangerous advert for newcomers to urban.

Obsessed like a stalker - you need help.

 

[YouSir]

Someone I know whose asylum claim has been resolved has been advised not to discuss their living location/situation or status with anyone they don't know. If you do live near anywhere less obvious than the hotels that people are staying worth keeping an eye out and not chatting about it to people you aren't sure of.

 

[moochedit]

BTW, thought this statement from Unite Hospitality was very good, although annoying that they don't seem to have it in actual text form anywhere, just pictures in not the most readable font I've ever seen:
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FBU and CWU have both been making encouraging noises as well.

THE UNITE HOSPITALITY COMBINE WISHES TO CONDEMN IN THE STRONGEST POSSIBLE WAY THE FAR-RIGHT TERRORIST ATTACKS ON CITIES AND TOWNS ACROSS BRITAIN AND IRELAND OVER THESE PAST FEW DAYS.
THERE ARE NO 'LEGITIMATE CONCERNS' THAT CAN JUSTIFY THE DESTRUCTION OF WORKPLACES, THE BURNING OF PUBLIC LIBRARIES, OR THE INTENTIONAL ENDANGERMENT OF HUMAN LIFE.
HOTELS HOUSING ASYLUM SEEKERS (INCLUDING L., CHILDREN) WHO ARE FLEEING PERSECUTION AND WAR IN THEIR OWN COUNTRIES HAVE BEEN BRICKED AND BURNED BY PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN CONVINCED THAT THOSE FROM OTHER COUNTRIES OR OF DIFFERENT RACES AND RELIGIONS ARE SOMEHOW TO BLAME FOR THE INSTITUTIONAL NEGLECT OF DE-INDUSTRIALISED COMMUNITIES.

WE REJECT ABSOLUTELY THE ISLAMOPHOBIA AND RACISM THAT HAS FUELLED SO MUCH HATRED AND VIOLENCE OVER THE LAST FEW DAYS. WE REJECT CENTURIES OF SOCIAL CONDITIONING THAT HAVE TRIED TO CONVINCE US THAT BLACK AND MUSLIM LIVES ARE WORTH LESS THAN OTHERS. WE REJECT NARRATIVES PUSHED BY THE MEDIA AND BY POLITICIANS WHICH SERVE ONLY TO FAN THE FLAMES OF HATE IN ORDER TO BOOST PROFITS AND FEATHER POLITICAL NESTS.
THESE ARE NOT SMALL DIVISIONS THAT CAN BE HEALED BY THROWING HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE IN JAIL, THEY ARE HUGE FISSURES IN SOCIETY WHICH CAN ONLY BE HEALED BY YEARS OF GRASS ROOTS ORGANISING IN COMMUNITIES THAT NEED 0 SOLIDARITY. AS HISTORY HAS SHOWN US, THE BEST ANTIDOTE TO FASCISM AND FAR-RIGHT POPULISM IS WORKING CLASS SOLIDARITY. FROM THE BATTLE OF CABLE STREET WHEN 100,000 EAST-ENDERS AND ORGANISED WORKERS CONFRONTED MOSLEY'S BRITISH UNION OF FASCISTS TO THE WORKERS OF THE ROLLS ROYCE FACTORY IN EAST KILBRIDE REFUSING TO BUILD ENGINES FOR PLANES THAT WOULD BE USED BY THE FASCIST DICTATORSHIP IN CHILE TO KILL SOCIALISTS.

AS WORKERS IN THE MOST DIVERSE SECTOR IN THE BRITISH AND IRISH ECONOMIES, WE SEE FIRSTHAND THE AUTHENTIC DIVERSITY OF OUR NATIONS AND THE CAPACITY WE HAVE TO BUILD STRONG COMMUNITIES WITH EACH OTHER. MIGRANT WORKERS ARE THE BACKBONE OF OUR INDUSTRY AND THEY MUST BE DEFENDED FROM ABUSE AND ATTACK FROM THOSE WHO BELIEVE THEY ARE INFERIOR.
UNFORTUNATELY, COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY HAVE BEEN SYSTEMATICALLY TORN APART BY FIFTY YEARS OF NEOLIBERAL ECONOMICS THAT PREACH ,i0MPETITION OVER COOPERATION. THIS HAS LEFT Uh WITH DESPERATE PEOPLE CRAVING COMMUNITY AND'' FINDING ONLY A SHARED SENSE OF HATRED WITH OTHERS - HATRED THAT HAS BEEN PRIMED TO BE TARGETED AT THE PEOPLE IN SOCIETY WHO HAVE THE LEAST. THE DESTRUCTION AND VACUUM LEFT BY SUCCESSIVE AUSTERITY GOVERNMENTS HAS BEEN FILLED BY THE RHETORIC OF FASCISM.

Sorry came out in shouty caps

 

[Wilf]

Dickheads sharing made up stuff to scare people and other dickheads going along to it in case
There's a list for Wales which started off as bollocks but now being taken as real
And false footage and claims of things already kicking off last night
Keeping us and vulnerable communities on edge

Aye.

 

[Spymaster]

Obsessed like a stalker - you need help.

It’s his MO.

 

[ddraig]

5 slides

 

[ddraig]

These are the Welsh ones now being taken seriously

 

[Wilf]

Gone from possible to probable (Bishop Auckland), ASDA now closed and people locked in. Also, heard reports of kids in balaclavas on bikes and scooters headed this way from a nearby village. Could be the sort of 'protest' that has hardly any ideological fash in it, more an amped up version of the routine kids v cops thing seen in poor areas all the time.

And keeping up the local (to me) theme, there were arrests in Darlington last night. I don't go with any of the 'just hooligans up for a scrap'/'just men'/'pissed people' arguments, but some of these small, local riots/disorder beg the question of how much ideological input does it take to kick something off. There certainly could be edl/northeast infidels involved here, but it's also feeding into the 'normal' low level disorder that exists.

Second teenager arrested on suspicion of violent disorder in Darlington

Dozens of officers were deployed to the North Lodge Park area after two large groups gathered there

www.chroniclelive.co.uk

 

[Wilf]

And keeping up the local (to me) theme, there were arrests in Darlington last night. I don't go with any of the 'just hooligans up for a scrap'/'just men'/'pissed people' arguments, but some of these small, local riots/disorder beg the question of how much ideological input does it take to kick something off. There certainly could be edl/northeast infidels involved here, but it's also feeding into the 'normal' low level disorder that exists.

Second teenager arrested on suspicion of violent disorder in Darlington

Dozens of officers were deployed to the North Lodge Park area after two large groups gathered there

www.chroniclelive.co.uk

And a Dispersal Order in place in Durham City:

Special powers in place for police ahead potential disorder in Durham City

A dispersal order for the city centre has been in place since noon

www.chroniclelive.co.uk

 

[hitmouse]

Sorry came out in shouty caps

TBF, the original was in shouty caps as well. Convert Case - Convert upper case to lower case, lower case to upper case and more! is good for that - put through that, and fixing a few typos, it comes out as:

The unite hospitality combine wishes to condemn in the strongest possible way the far-right terrorist attacks on cities and towns across britain and ireland over these past few days.
There are no 'legitimate concerns' that can justify the destruction of workplaces, the burning of public libraries, or the intentional endangerment of human life.
Hotels housing asylum seekers (including children) who are fleeing persecution and war in their own countries have been bricked and burned by people who have been convinced that those from other countries or of different races and religions are somehow to blame for the institutional neglect of de-industrialised communities.

We reject absolutely the islamophobia and racism that has fuelled so much hatred and violence over the last few days. We reject centuries of social conditioning that have tried to convince us that black and muslim lives are worth less than others. We reject narratives pushed by the media and by politicians which serve only to fan the flames of hate in order to boost profits and feather political nests.
These are not small divisions that can be healed by throwing hundreds of people in jail, they are huge fissures in society which can only be healed by years of grass roots organising in communities that need solidarity. As history has shown us, the best antidote to fascism and far-right populism is working class solidarity. From the battle of cable street when 100,000 east-enders and organised workers confronted mosley's british union of fascists to the workers of the rolls royce factory in east kilbride refusing to build engines for planes that would be used by the fascist dictatorship in chile to kill socialists.


As workers in the most diverse sector in the british and irish economies, we see firsthand the authentic diversity of our nations and the capacity we have to build strong communities with each other. Migrant workers are the backbone of our industry and they must be defended from abuse and attack from those who believe they are inferior.
Unfortunately, communities across the country have been systematically torn apart by fifty years of neoliberal economics that preach competition over cooperation. This has left us with desperate people craving community and finding only a shared sense of hatred with others - hatred that has been primed to be targeted at the people in society who have the least. The destruction and vacuum left by successive austerity governments has been filled by the rhetoric of fascism.

Although that's only the first two slides of four.

 

[brogdale]

No live rioting on Sky News? Have the fash taken the evening off, or is it the drizzle?

 

[planetgeli]

These are the Welsh ones now being taken seriously
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Two or three quick questions on that one.

1) What does 'something has to be done, but not at the cost our forefathers fought and died for' mean? I've read it a few times. I don't know exactly what it means.

2) Why has the Tenby one got a different symbol (the red things) to the others and what do they mean?

3) To me, this looks more believable than a list of 20-odd solictors googled off the net. So, in your opinion ddraig, is it real? Coz if it is, I can probably make Tenby on Saturday and Swansea on Sunday.

I've just done enough time in the past - so you don't have to - on non-existent fascist goose chases. Fight clever. Box clever. Pick your battles.

 

[hitmouse]

Gone from possible to probable (Bishop Auckland), ASDA now closed and people locked in. Also, heard reports of kids in balaclavas on bikes and scooters headed this way from a nearby village. Could be the sort of 'protest' that has hardly any ideological fash in it, more an amped up version of the routine kids v cops thing seen in poor areas all the time.

This post is as good a jumping off point as any for another memory that's been bumping around my head a fair bit the past week or so: I remember Tommy Robinson's visit to Lower Broughton during his MEP run in 2019 being a stressful occasion.
This is purely my interpretation of things, not one based on any indepth conversation with the other side, but I felt like most of the people who were throwing rocks and stuff at us didn't seem like hardcore fascists, more just local kids who'd seen outsiders coming into their area and were up for a scrap with them, and what I kept thinking was...if my reading of that situation's right, then what had to go wrong that they saw "us", almost entirely people who live and work not that far away, as being outsiders, and yet some grifting shortarse with too many names from Luton who spends half his time travelling around the world can rock up in their area with his traveling circus and not provoke the same hostility from them? I don't really have any proper conclusion to go here, but your recent posts have been really making me think over that same question again.

 

[krtek a houby]

Obsessed like a stalker - you need help.

Again, a very Trumpian response to your antimsemitsm being hilighted.

The obvious right wing likes you got, only confirm the kind of time you have left here.

 

[ddraig]

Two or three quick questions on that one.

1) What does 'something has to be done, but not at the cost our forefathers fought and died for' mean? I've read it a few times. I don't know exactly what it means.

2) Why has the Tenby one got a different symbol (the red things) to the others and what do they mean?

3) To me, this looks more believable than a list of 20-odd solictors googled off the net. So, in your opinion ddraig, is it real? Coz if it is, I can probably make Tenby on Saturday and Swansea on Sunday.

I've just done enough time in the past - so you don't have to - on non-existent fascist goose chases. Fight clever. Box clever. Pick your battles.

It is weird, it was doctored and think that (1) was added by someone posting in a local group for Neath Port Talbot
Maybe they mean joining the far right to cause trouble? Honestly don't know
2) Tenby symbol looks like an 18 with a line through it so potentially no kids??
3) IMO it wasn't and others considered it bollocks last night but worry grew and other talk signalled some jumping on it so now have to be taken as real sadly

I was surprised some of them turned up in Cardiff on Sunday but they did still and there were some floating around

 

[cupid_stunt]

No live rioting on Sky News? Have the fash taken the evening off, or is it the drizzle?

I hope they are starting to wake up to the numbers already jailed on remand, and having second thoughts about kicking off.

 

[Pickman's model]

Again, a very Trumpian response to your antimsemitsm being hilighted.

The obvious right wing likes you got, only confirm the kind of time you have left here.

Maybe his offline activities will lead to time elsewhere

 

[Lotte]

Like hell you're not

Thank you for reminding me why I stick to Jewish pro-Palestine groups. "Weh weh wehhhh I'm sick of those kike scum talking about the Holocaust, why don't they just get over it." It's got real 'black people need to STFU about slavery' vibes. Meanwhile, we've got the modern equivalent of Kristallnacht going on, except it's aimed at another group, because people never learn from history. I'm not the only Jew getting déjà vu vibes from the riots. We all know how this sort of thing ends. Except this time it's Muslims getting shit thrown at them.

 

[krtek a houby]

Maybe his offline activities will lead to time elsewhere

Can only hope so

 

[krtek a houby]

Thank you for reminding me why I stick to Jewish pro-Palestine groups. "Weh weh wehhhh I'm sick of those kike scum talking about the Holocaust." Meanwhile, we've got the modern equivalent of Kristallnacht going on, except it's aimed at another group, because people never learn from history.

Some people don't, that's for sure.

Urban should be a safe space from these wrong uns and those who support them.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Again, a very Trumpian response to your antimsemitsm being hilighted.

The obvious right wing likes you got, only confirm the kind of time you have left here.

Mate, you quoted a load of posts from them, some were certainly dodgy, I clicked on a couple, and they had warnings on both, therefore the mods are aware, so can I respectfully suggest you should leave it at that, and not continue this derail?