Everything Goes
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Maybe being a bitter, twisted, racist makes people look older than they actually are. Most of them seems to be white males in the baby boomer age group.
Far-right response to Southport Outrage And Ongoing Violent Disorder
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Maybe being a bitter, twisted, racist makes people look older than they actually are. Most of them seems to be white males in the baby boomer age group.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Years of smashing the coke and booze doesn't help either.
krtek a houby
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Could also likely be a harder life lived with less luxuries
Everything Goes
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I think the only job where that might be an occupational hazard in every day life is on a construction site. Otherwise you can sleep easy...
Boo Radley75
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Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
Nah, the youngest of the boomers are 60-odd, the oldest in their late 70s. This is principally Gen X, Y, & Z.
Sorry everyone but I just don't have the time to read through this fast-flowing thread to find out, but a mate just posted these on FB - anyone know where they come from and if the info is true?
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planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Covered earlier, almost certainly bollocks. Many of them are simple office spaces. It's either deliberate misinformation on their intentions or a splash list (throw shit around, see if any sticks).
Thank you!
It's absolutely this. Just as middle and upper class people have that glow of health that comes from always having enough really good food, enough money to heat the house in cold weather and not have to worry about paying bills, and taking regular holidays, working class people look older, rougher, suffer with more illnesses and conditions brought about directly by being poorer, more pressured, with shittier working conditions.
Silas Loom
Hated by both sides
It’s specifically aimed at provoking Bordelsey-type situations (hence the large city locations) which can be portrayed as Muslim riots and feed into the two-tier narrative.
ska invita
back on the other side
I disagree with planetgeli, those targets are out there and if people act on them, and the action suggests smashing and burning, then they will. The fact the list is so wide spread means it's"real,". .... It's decentred action and people may well act on one or more of these.
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
A bit like working class Koreans from the DPRK compared to their counterparts in the South. Daily pressure, stress, bouts of hunger and fear of the future can't be good for the body and mind.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
The BBC have named a couple of people today that they've identified with FR software.
John Honey and Connor Londesborough.
How Eastern European men in a BMW were attacked during violence in Hull
Footage of an angry crowd swarming around a car and targeting its occupants is analysed by BBC Verify.www.bbc.co.uk
There must be about a hundred or so identified by posters on Twitter tbh. . Honey was identified very early by someone on there, not least as he had his mug, and his distinctive St George Flag shirt, all over the internet in photos and videos looting about five shops, an attack on a car and other crimes. He has previous convictions including handing in a load of knives at a police station saying he “get rid of Europeans.” His defence was that he suffers from extreme autism. Allegedly joined Patriotic Alternative last year.
Teenager confesses worrying plans to 'get rid of Europeans' to police
John Honey says he planned to use the knives to rob a European store in Spring Bank
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
Running around sweating like a fucker as you shout at people and get a rush of adrenaline from punting a bin at the police adds years to how you look.
I’m sure they look very different when not in a riot
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
There are some ,who like 'anti Tory' women who swear a bit and use the word cockwomble and there are others who object to a landlord running a financial business on social media platforms selling videos of an 'anti tory ' woman who swears a bit and uses the word 'cockwomble'. Some might think that its ok for an 'anti-Tory' woman to indulge in conspiracy theories about 9/11 and to have photographs of her and a mate with Hitler moustaches and T shirt with I love Hitler 'as a joke' at a music festival and others don't. All a matter of what anti tory means for middle-aged centrist blokes, which is her main audience, I suppose. She's a grifter which some people try and ignore.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
should be rings of pineapple on his eyes
Ah okay. Thank you.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
The targets are out there regardless of a list compiled by someone who has googled "immigration help". Calling for a pogrom in the middle of a large city is one thing. Saying there are 27 different targets all to hit on the same night at the same time when you can barely get 50 people out in some small towns?
Ok. We'll see.
andysays
Love and solidarity
As discussed above, there is no centralised control structure behind all of this.
Some of these targets may well be attacked, and there is some counter organising going for many of them, also with no central organisation.
If you're concerned about one or two in particular, maybe check with local networks where possible.
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
Its had an effect though. Various places who do immigration advice and other refugee related support have told staff to work from home. We were supposed to be taking some of the guys from the hotle in leeds out on a trip to the countryside but it got cancelled. I dont agree with this at all - its giving the cunts what they want. And they dont have the numbers to carry out widesprad intimidation of this number of places - which also tend to be in very culturally diverse areas - so harldly likelty to go unchallenged.
My sense/hope is that this has peaked - that a lot of the most aggro of them are in the process of getting arrested. I dont belive that there they will inspire greater numbers of the general public to join in with the pogroms and street fascism - more the opposite in that it will mobilse anti fascist resistance. However - organsiations will take a safety first/arse covering approach rather and give in to these sort of exagerrrated threats.
(however i defeintiely think a lot of these places will get a big up tick in online and telephone based harassment)
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
There may be no centralised clearing house for targets now. But I wouldn't be surprised if one emerged. Many of us no doubt remember the target lists circulated by fascists in the 1990s
andysays
Love and solidarity
I agree that they most likely won't all be targeted, but from the fash point of view that isn't necessarily a problem.
Because it's unpredictable, effort will likely go into defending them all, which means anti fash forces will be spread more thinly, and there's also the chance of conflict with the police.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Tbh you don't need many people to target places wherever they are and may be done by one person with ease, some obvious low risk means leap to mind. E2a any targeting may happen now or in the future
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
The worry about them being sent down is a possibly a similar martyrdom afforded to them by the far right demagogues online. Like the January 6th crowd have since become with the likes of Trump praising them.
Obviously the UK isn't the US, but I don't believe that the likes of SYL will not try to capitalise on their incarcerations...
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Well said, and a useful counter to the casual classism displayed by a few posters/ memes shared in this thread.
We may despise the racism and hated of their chosen political beliefs, but the rioters do predominantly look like members of our class that have suffered multiple deprivations including health and education.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Then they should be given every assistance to martyr themselves for as long as possible.
I think it's bollocks anyway. It's like a last bit of totally sterile defiance as someone gets sent down
"We're martyrs!" but in reality their pants are full of shit and nobody really thinks that.
I had a go at people on FB sharing fucking 'Greggs/steak bake' classist 'jokes'. Fucks me right off does that.
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