Far-right response to Southport Outrage And Ongoing Violent Disorder

[neonwilderness]

I reckon next weekend will see massive anti-racist rallies around the country. There's one planned here in Newcastle 9.30 Saturday and my apolitical wife mentioned it to me from people talking at work without me saying anything, makes me think it will be massive, it definitely won't just be the usual faces.

I've seen a few mentions of something happening in the West end on Wednesday too. Although hopefully like Bordesley it won't amount to much.

 

[Rimbaud]

That's true but Reform did get 4 million votes

From the comments you'd think they got 40 million votes.

And most Reform voters won't support this I reckon.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Elon Musk is acting like a complete twat on twitter, personally I would like to see the platform banned in the UK, until there's a change in ownership, but I guess it's too big for that to happen.

 

[Ming]

Whats wrong with her? I dont follow YT drama and I'm more a centre left progressive, so dunno if shes pissed people off and it went over my head.

I posted a clip of her years ago and someone (I forget who) stated she’d said XYZ (again I forget). I think she’s pretty good for a bit of invective.

And I do think that video is on the money.

A view I hold is that the massive success the right has had generally in their long term structural goals since the late 70’s has been deliberate and carefully planned. I hear a lot of ‘Tories are morons’ which I don’t agree with. You have to remember what their actual goals are. Disaster capitalism makes lots of money. When Brexit happened Farage’s mate Crispin Odey made hundreds of millions shorting the pound and Farage helped him increase his profits by giving the impression on the night of the result that he thought he’d lost. Publicly. To swing the market.They’re very disciplined and effective. Unfortunately. And Tanskiii’s just giving an example of that in that piece.

 

[teqniq]

Elmo being a complete dick. Had a quick look at her timeline and came to the conclusion that Ashley St Clair seems to be unrelentingly awful as well:

 

[Chilli.s]

What have the cops managed, 150 or so arrests, after 5 days of terror... pathetic

 

[cupid_stunt]

Devon & Cornwall police are struggling with the situation in Plymouth, the Sky reporter says they have admitted they haven't got the resources to deal with what's licking off.

 

[where to]

Sky News reporting live from Plymouth just now. A few hundred on either side of a main road barrier. Pretty tense situation.

 

[where to]

What have the cops managed, 150 or so arrests, after 5 days of terror... pathetic

Was reported as around 380 at 5pm

 

[cupid_stunt]

What have the cops managed, 150 or so arrests, after 5 days of terror... pathetic

Well over 450 when I posted that this morning, not sure of the current number, but must be more by now.

 

[Chilli.s]

Was reported as around 380 at 5pm

still not much of a score

 

[breadandcircuse]

The idea that they were going to waltz through Small Heath always felt like nonsense.

if these are their tactics then well meaning idiots need to stop doing their work for them by plastering it all over twitter and other social media.

It was interesting that C4 News was in Birmingham, but the other channels didn't mention it. The reporter in Alum Rock mentioned that residents were gathering in defence. Thankfully it didn't happen, but I think you may be right about the tactics of trying to get counter protestors out on the streets.

 

[krtek a houby]

Elon Musk is acting like a complete twat on twitter, personally I would like to see the platform banned in the UK, until there's a change in ownership, but I guess it's too big for that to happen.

Would certainly like to less of it here, but admittedly it can be of use during these kind of emergencies

 

[ddraig]

heard the telegram group was made private or closed as got to 20k?
Also that regional ones have started

 

[Elpenor]

Devon & Cornwall police are struggling with the situation in Plymouth, the Sky reporter says they have admitted they haven't got the resources to deal with what's licking off.

Isolated down here, would take time for extra units to arrive from Exeter

Looks like from a quick watch of Sky News the aggro all from the fascist side, but not nearly as violent as what we have seen over the weekend

 

[moochedit]

Elon Musk is acting like a complete twat on twitter, personally I would like to see the platform banned in the UK, until there's a change in ownership, but I guess it's too big for that to happen.

As much as i dislike musk and x/twitter i'm not sure banning it would be a great look for the uk (and would play into the rights hands). People can use vpn's anyway if isp's were forced to block it. Maybe they could ban uk companies from advertising on it or something? (Isn't that what they did with pirate radio?)

Do "x" have an office in the uk?

 

[MickiQ]

Well over 450 when I posted that this morning, not sure of the current number, but must be more by now.

There is plenty of time to round them up, it's not like a speeding ticket where it has to be issued in 2 weeks.
I can well imagine some of these fuckwits thinking it's been weeks and they can relax only to be dragged out of bed at 5am

 

[kenny g]

Elon Musk is acting like a complete twat on twitter, personally I would like to see the platform banned in the UK, until there's a change in ownership, but I guess it's too big for that to happen.

I am surprised it hasn't happened but as a pirate radio bloke don't you see a contradiction?

 

[hitmouse]

Lived. he lives abroad now

Yeah, scrolling through the arsehole's telegram channel I saw these two posts, which combined feel beyond parody in the same way as Yaxley-Lennon complaining about being harassed:

 

[Humberto]

As much as i dislike musk and x/twitter i'm not sure banning it would be a great look for the uk (and would play into the rights hands). People can use vpn's anyway if isp's were forced to block it. Maybe they could ban uk companies from advertising on it or something? Do they have an office in the uk?

They banned Pirate Bay which has a similar vpn workaround.

 

[cupid_stunt]

I am surprised it hasn't happened but as a pirate radio bloke don't you see a contradiction?

Not at all, pirate radio ever promoted the fash, in fact the opposite.

* with the exception of Radio Enoch, but that was short-lived.

 

[hitmouse]

Cheers. They all seem to be, for the moment, quite un-leaky. Remarkably so in fact for out social media age.

Yeah, I'm sure the likes of Red Flare will have some people in there, and I'd hope some local organisers across the country are doing the same, but can't say I have the time/energy to be messing about with fake accounts myself.

 

[YouSir]

As much as i dislike musk and x/twitter i'm not sure banning it would be a great look for the uk (and would play into the rights hands). People can use vpn's anyway if isp's were forced to block it. Maybe they could ban uk companies from advertising on it or something? Do they have an office in the uk?

Not enough people will bother to use VPNs to make it a viable platform if it were banned. Can't imagine it will be but tbh it's a propaganda platform for the right. It isn't open, it isn't representative and it isn't a public service. Can imagine worse things than it being cut down in some way.

 

[Elpenor]

Devon & Cornwall police are struggling with the situation in Plymouth, the Sky reporter says they have admitted they haven't got the resources to deal with what's licking off.

Just to follow up on this, and from watching the news, presume no mounted section in Devon and Cornwall as no horses in view.

 

[YouSir]

They banned Pirate Bay which has a similar vpn workaround.

Apples and oranges though isn't it. Piracy always required a basic level of technical knowledge and commitment, social media relies on everyone having easy access. Cut out the casual users and all you've got left is BlueSky.

 

[moochedit]

Not enough people will bother to use VPNs to make it a viable platform if it were banned. Can't imagine it will be but tbh it's a propaganda platform for the right. It isn't open, it isn't representative and it isn't a public service. Can imagine worse things than it being cut down in some way.

People outside the uk would still use it. (Not all countries obviously)

 

[YouSir]

People outside the uk would still use it. (Not all countries obviously)

No doubt, but it's the UK in question.

 

[ddraig]

 

[Epona]

I'm not sure asking the government to be more authoritarian about what sites and social media are accessible is the answer.

 

[Dogsauce]

All seems to be advise and visa centres. Not good in any way at all but at least better than going after the actual accomodation.

Need to make a few additions before circulating that, perhaps the migrant advice centre at 55 Tufton Street, the Refugee Open Rights Movement (RefORM) office at 83 Victoria Street, London SW1 0HW…