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Excited to see him back, I thought he was out of the F1 revolving door.

Sensible choice, he knows the personnel (who wanted to keep him before the Mazepin money) & good yard stick for Schumi Jn. It also makes me think that the Haas won't be back of the pack in 2022. He's seen enough to be convinced that he won't be trundling around at the back.
 

F1 rumours: Radical Mercedes W13 with no sidepods?

Mercedes are said to be arriving at the Sakhir circuit with a W13 that doesn’t have any sidepods whatsoever, and their rivals are worried. That’s according to a report in Corriere dello Sport. Debuting their all-new cars last month in Formula 1’s group shakedown at the Circuit de Catalunya there were several different sidepod designs on display. While Ferrari went with a baby bath and louvred sidepod tops, the Red Bull RB18 features a dramatic undercut. Alfa Romeo’s had a bit of both. As for Mercedes, they opted for a multi-geometry surface before the reigning Constructors’ Champions then trialled louvred sidepods during the opening test. For Bahrain, though, they are reportedly expected to arrive with a car that doesn’t have any sidepods.

According to Corriere dello Sport, the sidepods are ‘gone’ after Mercedes’ tests in the simulator showed a ‘monstrous’ upturn in the performance. ‘It would be a car almost completely devoid of sides, the disappearance of which would have involved an imaginative but effective arrangement of the radiators, in the highest area of the bodywork,’ read the report. The sidepod-less design has shown ‘impressive simulator performances, with already legendary gains’. And it is said to be ‘disturbing’ the tech gurus at their rival teams while causing ‘more than one team principal to be alarmed’. But whether it will lead to a protest should Mercedes run the design at the Bahrain Grand Prix remains to be seen with the Brackley squad having said to have asked for ‘substantial clarifications before proceeding’ with the design.

Over at Mercedes, they are being coy about the upgraded package. A spokesman for the team told Auto Motor und Sport: “Everyone flies to Bahrain with new parts. The biggest upgrades are usually the ones you can see from the outside.” Sky Sport’s Ted Kravitz reckons this week could see a barrage of protests, or at least questions, being put before the FIA and its new race directors. “There are already lots of teams looking at various bits on other cars and going, ‘hang on, I didn’t think we were allowed to do that! Every single thing is going to be objected or even protested. That’s the problem for these race directors these two guys are coming in at a particularly red-hot time for inter-team protests.”

Horner already on the phone even before seeing the car :D
 
Vroom. :)

Testing is on Sky (and possibly a handy stream near you).

The "huge upgrade" at Mercedes is the big story. It seems that Williams might have had a similar thought.

The Aston Martin has particularly huge side pods if I remember correctly. Daddy Stroll is going to be annoyed his design squad has missed the mark, but then they had a year off when all they did was put tracing paper over the previous year’s mercedes, so probably they’re a bit rusty.
 
You know those huge aero-frames they put on cars to check air-flow and what-not?

One of the Sky talking heads just referred to a car as having "the full barbecue up front".

:D
 
What’s all this kerfuffle over Horner talking about the Merc car? I see Auto Motor & Sport tweeting that they definitely spoke to Horner and Red Bull denying it, but can’t find anywhere what Horner has been quoted as saying about the Merc car?
 
appears Horner made a comment to german sport mag
but it was not an interview so its not an offical quote and red bull want it to go away


that or they just want to start play mind games from the start of test 2

bit from column a and bit from column b
 
Ted and Co just tried to interview Whinger.

Basically, 1) he hasn't said anything, 2) it's all aero so it's above his head, and 3) everyone needs to wait and see how things pan out.

In other words: if we see Mercedes has a nano-second's advantage we will scream to the high heavens to get it banned.

Another useful comment earlier (from Jolyon Palmer?) was that the Mercedes interpretation is different and at the extreme end of the rules, but that doesn't mean it's necessarily right or effective.
 

Mercedes attract attention in Bahrain with radical 'no sidepod' design on new-look car

Mercedes' have captured the attention up and down the pit-lane at the final Bahrain F1 test with a radical 'no sidepod' design on their dramatically different W13 car. Though Mercedes unveiled a fairly unadventurous car for the first three days of pre-season running in Barcelona last month, there had been speculation that they were planning aggressive upgrades for Bahrain ahead of the first race. And that proved correct on Thursday morning as a new-look W13 broke cover, featuring minimalist sidepods - so tiny they are barely visible - and fins on the side of the car to improve airflow.
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The Mercedes in Bahrain (left) compared to the Mercedes from Barcelona (right)
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The Mercedes in Bahrain (above) compared to the Mercedes from Barcelona (below)
 
Ted and Co just tried to interview Whinger.

Basically, 1) he hasn't said anything, 2) it's all aero so it's above his head, and 3) everyone needs to wait and see how things pan out.

In other words: if we see Mercedes has a nano-second's advantage we will scream to the high heavens to get it banned.

Another useful comment earlier (from Jolyon Palmer?) was that the Mercedes interpretation is different and at the extreme end of the rules, but that doesn't mean it's necessarily right or effective.

So am I right in thinking the jist of the comments he (did) didn’t make to AMuS was that the new Merc isn’t legal? Reading between the lines that seems to be what’s now being implied?
 

Brawn – No legality concerns over “extreme” Mercedes sidepod design

Ross Brawn says that he does not believe the Mercedes radical ‘sidepod-less’ design is in breach of the technical regulations. Mercedes have caused a stir in the Bahrain paddock by introducing dramatically redesigned sidepods on their W13 compared to the opening pre-season test in Barcelona. The ‘sidepod-less’ design of the Mercedes led to reports that Red Bull boss, Christian Horner, had questioned the legality of the W13’s design. However, these reports were denied by Red Bull, who dismissed the quotes attributed to Horner as “incorrect”.

Formula 1 motorsport director, Ross Brawn who was the prime architect behind the radical overhaul to the technical regulations for this season said that the Mercedes ‘sidepod-less’ design was an “extreme” concept. “I think there’s no doubt that the Mercedes concept we didn’t anticipate,” said Brawn. “I think it’s a very extreme interpretation of the regulation and I think there’s inevitably going to be a lot of debate about their interpretation. That’s what happens with new regulations. However hard you try to close off all the options and believe me we closed off hundreds of them the innovation in Formula 1 is always extreme. So, from our perspective, it’s largely about does it affect the objectives of the regulations. From the teams’ perspective, they want to be sure that no one’s taking an interpretation that they don’t feel is correct. So I think there’s going to be a lot of debate in the next few days.”

Brawn says that he has not seen any designs from the teams that he believes breach the technical regulations or go against the intention of the revised rules package for 2022. “I think it’s impossible to anticipate the creative scope of the teams. Once they get the regulations, you’ve got 1,000 engineers working on all the regulations and how they can use them,” Brawn explained. “So some of these solutions quite honestly were never anticipated. I think we will go back into investigating those solutions and make sure that they maintain the objectives of the new rules. I think they do our initial impressions are that there’s nothing here that we would be overly concerned about in terms of those objectives of the regulations. So it’s just fascinating to see such a wide range of solutions. What I think has become a step change for the teams is a lot of new cooler innovations, a lot of new innovation in the heat exchanges and the radiators that have become available and it’s given them more scope to create the designs we’ve got.”

Horner dismissed claims he had suggested the Mercedes design did not confirm to the regulations. “I’m slightly surprised to be reading comments that I’m supposed to have been making,” he told Sky. “To be honest with you I haven’t paid a great deal of attention to it. It was obviously a fairly different concept but that’s for the aero guys and the designers to get into.”
 
The other thing that Ross Brawn said was that while everything looked fine with the Mercedes design, it was still open to a team to raise an objection on grounds that F1 hadn't thought of.

He also said that he and colleagues don't enforce the rules, that's the FIA and the stewards. It was possible the regulations folks would give a design the thumbs up, only for a team to complain the the stewards that a set-up was in breach.
 

Briatore lined-up for F1 return as advisor

The return of Flavio Briatore to Formula 1 has seemingly moved closer, in what appears set to be an advisory role to the series’ management. Briatore is one off, if not the most controversial team bosses in the history of Formula 1, working with Benetton and Renault during his career. His departure though back in 2009 came as a result of the ‘crashgate’ scandal, with former Renault driver Nelson Piquet Jr saying he had been ordered to crash deliberately at the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix to aid team-mate Fernando Alonso, who went on to win. Briatore was issued with an indefinite ban from all FIA-sanctioned events, though that was later overturned in the courts.

Reports for a Formula 1 return for Briatore have been circulating for some time now, but now that possibility has grown greatly after a spokesperson for Formula 1 outlined the role which Briatore would play upon making his comeback. It appears that he is not going to link-up with any team, but instead will work with Formula 1’s management team on maintaining and building new relationships with promoters, while also helping to drive commercial growth for the series. The Formula 1 spokesperson told De Telegraaf: “In his capacity as a long-serving ambassador to Formula 1, Flavio Briatore will continue to support us in building our relationships with existing and potential promoters and partners and developing commercial and entertainment partnerships so we can continue to grow this incredible sport.”
 
The ‘sidepod-less’ design of the Mercedes led to reports that Red Bull boss, Christian Horner, had questioned the legality of the W13’s design. However, these reports were denied by Red Bull, who dismissed the quotes attributed to Horner as “incorrect”.

I honestly don't know.

That wouldn't surprise me a jot.

Seems like that’s it. Situation normal Horner. Shoots his mouth of then tries to back pedal when he realises he’s gone too far.
 

Leclerc quickest as F1 testing resumes in Bahrain

Ferrari driver Charles Leclerc set the pace on the opening morning of Formula 1’s second test at the Bahrain International Circuit. Formula 1 reconvened in Bahrain on Thursday, 13 days after the conclusion of the opening three-day test, and just eight days out from the opening round of the season. In hot and sunny conditions Leclerc posted a time of 1:34.531s to wind up half a second ahead of Williams’ Alexander Albon.


Most of the attention fell on reigning World Champions Mercedes. Its W13 was revealed prior to the session with significant upgrades, most prominently its heavily revised sidepods. The bold restructuring has created exceptionally slim sidepods, with fins adjacent to the cockpit in order to comply with crash tests, and a double series of vents on those narrow sidepods. Lewis Hamilton tested the W13 during the four-hour session and finished fifth, behind Aston Martin’s Sebastian Vettel and Red Bull’s Sergio Perez.


Perez was the most productive driver during the session as he completed 69 laps. The session ran clean throughout, bar a brief Virtual Safety Car test, though Guanyu Zhou stopped in the pit lane and needed pushing back to the garage by Alfa Romeo’s crew. McLaren had a relatively subdued session with Lando Norris amassing only 21 laps. Norris stepped in to replace Daniel Ricciardo for the morning session after the Australian fell unwell following a filming day on Wednesday. Haas did not run on Thursday morning due to the delay in the team’s freight arriving in Bahrain. The VF-22 is expected to hit the track for the afternoon session with tester Pietro Fittipaldi behind the wheel. Returning race driver Kevin Magnussen, confirmed as Nikita Mazepin’s full-time replacement on Wednesday, is scheduled to drive the car on Friday.

Day one times
1. Leclerc (Ferrari) 1m34.531s, C3, 64 laps
2. Albon (Williams) 1m35.070s, C4, 53 laps
3. Vettel (Aston Martin), 1m35.706s, C3, 38 laps
4. Perez (Red Bull) 1m35.977s, C3, 70 laps
5. Hamilton (Mercedes) 1m36.365s, C3, 62 laps
6. Ocon (Alpine) 1m36.768s, C2, 42 laps
7. Zhou (Alfa Romeo) 1m37.164s, C3, 54 laps
8. Norris (McLaren) 1m37.580s, C4, 21 laps
9. Gasly (AlphaTauri) 1m37.888s, C2, 44 laps
 

What the F1 regulations say about Mercedes’ sidepod solution

In F1, it’s incredibly difficult to measure the ‘spirit of the regulations’, because you can only quantify what’s written within them. And, as such, the key factor in the rulebook about the Mercedes design and its incredibly slender sidepods, is the placement and fairing of the Side Impact Structures (SIS). F1 cars must have two of these structures on each side of the car, all of which are a standardised design that the sport introduced in 2014. This was originally done as a cost cutting measure and also served to curtail some of the more exotic designs that were being produced at the time. At the top of that list are the ‘U-pods’ seen on the McLaren in 2011, with the team having to go to extreme measures to pass the stringent side impact tests required at the time.

There’s no longer a requirement for teams to pass a side impact test, owing to the spars being a known quantity, which just leaves room for the teams to design around the positional requirements imposed by the regulations. In that respect, there have been changes for 2022. The upper SIS is now required to be placed at least 50mm higher than it was before, resulting in teams having to rethink their placement and how they impact flow into the sidepod cooling inlet. Last year, all of the teams had converged on a variant of the solution that Ferrari first introduced in 2017, whereby the upper SIS was placed low and ahead of the inlet and ultimately produced a more aerodynamically favourable design.

Mercedes has taken this design principle and turned it upside down in many respects, placing the upper SIS in a higher position inside the allowable legality box and creating an aerodynamic fairing for it that acts as an airfoil for the very extreme sidepod packaging. It’s also worth mentioning the cluster of vortex generators on the outer edge of its span, which also coincides with the redesign and repositioning of the mirror and its ancillary flow conditioning components. Furthermore, there’s a new set of fins cropped up on the edge of the cockpit, which we have seen other teams adopt already in order to help channel the airflow in a more desirable direction. Decoupling the upper SIS from the sidepod bodywork has then allowed the team to think laterally about the size, shape and orientation of the internal components, the inlet plus the bodywork that shrink wraps tightly to them. The sidepod itself is also pushed back from the SIS when viewed from the side, allowing the team some space to include some downwashing chassis canards ahead of the inlet. This has been spun 90 degrees, with a tall, slender opening allowing it to minimise the width of the sidepod. The design is reminiscent of the Ferrari 640, which also featured a very tall, narrow inlet, especially if you compared it to many of the other designs on the grid at the time.

But, as the sidepod bodywork wraps rearward, there’s also a hint of the triangulation seen on the Brabham BT42. However, Mercedes has the benefit of being able to be more creative with its surface geometry, creating a sort of jelly-mould design, whereby the sidepod bodywork tapers into the floor. Much like the Williams, which had already impressed us when it was revealed, the upper bodywork quickly tapers down and inwards too, although their passthrough inlet now seems to serve a similar purpose. In a similar fashion to Williams, Mercedes may have moved some of its cooling to the car’s centreline, with the body widened significantly from the halo rearward, not only to accommodate the radiators and coolers packed in and around the power unit, but also to provide a defined route for the airflow to pass rearwards over the car. This move to a more centreline dominant cooling package is nothing new though, as teams have been pushing in this direction for some time now. The Toro Rosso STR10 and McLaren MP4-30 were at the forefront of this in 2015 but, more recently, we’ve seen the likes of Alpine and Red Bull adopt similar saddle-like configurations.

To help keep things cool under the hood, especially in warmer climes, Mercedes also has decided to deploy two separate cooling gill panels, one at the front of the sidepods and one over the haunched section of the engine cover. This allows it to run a minimal rear cooling outlet and decide upon a cooling gill arrangement based upon the circuit conditions at hand. Whilst the sidepod and engine cover packaging takes front and centre in the discussion, there’s more for us to dig in to when it comes to the new Mercedes package, with the front wing and floor also revised. The front wing upper flap has some subtle changes, with the trailing edge geometry altered in order to change the airflow's passage across the front face of the tyre. Meanwhile, and perhaps more importantly, the team has altered the loading of the wing in the central section, with the dipped profiles used in Barcelona exchanged for more inclined variants.

n terms of the floor there are numerous changes, with not only a visible alteration made to the outermost edge strake’s orientation and shape, but the wave section in the front corner of the floor that it used during the first test has been discarded too. There’s still some geometrical tricks being played with the floor edge here in order to entice the airflow. However, it is likely there’s still more to come over the course of the next few days as it has yet to deploy the floor edge wing that’s allowable in the new regulations. At the rear of the floor, the team has also added a more robust metal stay in order to try and prevent the floor from flexing down towards the track as the load builds, and prevent the sort of porpoising issues that were prevalent for all teams in Barcelona. This is becoming a common feature for the teams as they all try to combat the ill effects of the phenomenon and Ross Brawn, in an interview with Will Buxton, alluded to the FIA looking at the possibility of building the mandatory fitment of one into the regulations to help govern flexion.
 

Ferrari's Binotto wants F1 ban on Mercedes 'aero mirrors'

Ferrari team principal Mattia Binotto has challenged the design of Mercedes’ 2022 F1 car after it arrived for testing in Bahrain with a new radical slimline design. He has called for the distinctive mirror assembly to be banned for its aerodynamic benefit, saying that F1 does not want teams designing mirrors that look like “spaceships”. With minimal sidepods, the latest version of Mercedes W13 features horizontal fins that incorporate the side impact structure and support the rear-view mirrors. They also feature a series of vertical strips, some of which are used as stays to support the mirror. These will also manage airflow towards the rear of the car.
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Binotto says that this is against the spirit of the regulations, as mirrors should not act as aerodynamic devices. In a Bahrain press conference, where he appeared alongside Mercedes team principal Toto Wolff, he said that the approach should “stop” in future. “On the mirrors some are surprised,” he said. “I find that quite surprising. That’s not something we are expecting. I think in the spirit of that, some things that are needed. I think that for the future [they] need to be addressed. Already in the past, we always argued that the mirrors should not have any aero purpose. They should be there just to look behind. I think that the way that [Mercedes] treated or designed their car, certainly there is a significant aero purpose in the mirrors itself and I think, something that we need to stop for the future, no doubt because the risk is that we will come in the future that all the teams we start designing mirrors that look like spaceships. I don’t think that’s what we we are looking for as F1.”

Even if the mirrors aren’t found to contravene the regulations, F1 rules can be altered by a supermajority vote from the F1 Commission, which is made up of the ten teams, the FIA and F1. If both the latter are on board, then only eight teams are needed to force a change. Mirrors inevitably affect rearward airflow and all teams have unique surrounds and stays, in an effort to manage the flow to their advantage. Aston Martin also brought a new design to Bahrain, but Mercedes’ extreme solution goes too far, according to Binotto. The Ferrari boss said that he wasn’t challenging the narrow sidepods, saying that he couldn’t argue with the legality and that the Mercedes is a “great car”.
 
This whole “spirit” of the rules crap can just fuck off.

F1 has rules. They are there in black and white. It’s the engineers job to design something that pushes them right up to as close to breaking point as possible, in order to make the car as fast as they can. That’s the sport.
 
This whole “spirit” of the rules crap can just fuck off.

F1 has rules. They are there in black and white. It’s the engineers job to design something that pushes them right up to as close to breaking point as possible, in order to make the car as fast as they can. That’s the sport.
I think Ferrari are pissed because the FIA made them change their mirrors back in 2017 when they mounted them on the halo. the FIA changed the rules in 2019 but having looked I can't see that Mercedes are outside the 2019 rules. Mercedes say they worked with the FIA on the new design, so I'm sure they showed them the mirrors mounted on the Side Impact Structures. Mercedes have been very clever using the Side Impact Structures as an aero part and keeping it outside the sidepods, if it works well other teams will copy, but also other teams will protest if they see it as an advantage. We will have to wait and see once racing starts.

Very clever design :thumbs:

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There's no point protesting a design that doesn't offer a measurable advantage.

I'd laugh my head off if Mercedes turned round and said, "Change of plan..."
 
I agree the whole “spirit of the regulations” argument is BS, it’s just a shame the car merc brought to the first test was so pretty and this one is an ugly duck by comparison.

I’m sure if they have a significant advantage, Merc will be smart enough to turn the engine down and only win the early races by a small margin, as they allegedly did in 2014 when they had a huge engine advantage but concealed it.

But why is it only Merc pushing the limits with an out of the box solution to the new regs? Where are the other teams’ crazy innovations? Maybe we will see some at the first race.
 

Gasly fastest as Perez spin ends first day early in Bahrain


Pierre Gasly set the pace on the opening day of official F1 pre-season testing in Bahrain, with the AlphaTauri driver putting in a 1:33.902 during a flurry of fast laps in the final hour of track time, as temperatures cooled at the Sakhir circuit. With the afternoon session running into dusk, Gasly made the most of the cooler temperatures to fit a set of Soft C5 tyres. Initially putting in a 1m34.0s lap, this was already enough to take over at the front, but the Frenchman regrouped and went quicker again as the final half hour began. However, while the AT03 had the ultimate pace on the day, the car clearly struggled with 'porpoising' as Gasly bounced his way down the straights.

Carlos Sainz, taking over the Ferrari F1-75 for the afternoon after Charles Leclerc went fastest in the morning session, rose to finish second as he also put in his best time late in the evening. His effort was almost half a second slower than what Gasly managed. Leclerc, who sat firmly at the top of the times for most of the day and fastest in the morning session, finished in third place, a further tenth and a half back from Sainz. Meanwhile, it was a quiet day for Red Bull, as Sergio Perez placed 10th, with his best time being two seconds away from the front. The Mexican driver also brought out the red flag with seven minutes remaining in the day, having spun off at Turn 8 after losing the rear of the RB18.

Mercedes, which showed up with a radically different W13 that boasted significantly streamlined sidepods and caught the attention of many in the paddock, had an otherwise low-key day. George Russell, who drove for the afternoon, finished ninth and appeared to struggle for ultimate braking power as he ran wide on several occasions. Lewis Hamilton, driving in the morning, could only manage 11th, a further four-tenths slower than what Russell managed.


Meanwhile, at Haas, the American-led team managed to get their VF-22 on track after a logistics issue prevented them from arriving in Bahrain in time. After the lunch break, Pietro Fittipaldi took to the track and put in the 15th, and slowest, time of the day. The day's other red flag was caused by Aston Martin, after Lance Stroll scattered the remains of a loose aerodynamic rake across the track early in the afternoon session.

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