England fans: the racism and the violence

[editor]

In the three seasons previous to the last one teams in the PL averaged about 0.4 - 0.5 extra points from every home game, compared to their away games.

In 20/21 PL teams got an average of 0.068 less points per game in home games than in away games (i.e. it was pretty much even).

And the difference between those seasons wasn't "not travelling" or "sleeping in a different bed". Supporters affect the performances of teams.

Premier League - home and away tables - historical 2018

Home and away tables in Premier League and relative home/away performance overview for each team.

www.soccerstats.com

For the second time: I'm specifically referring to the booing of the national anthem at international games and the likely impact - if any - on a player's performance.

 

[tommers]

For the second time: I'm specifically referring to the booing of the national anthem at international games and the likely impact - if any - on a player's performance.

and do you not see the connection? genuinely?

 

[The39thStep]

I'm not technologically minded but so many of these racist comments - could VPNs be a factor? Some dickhead posting from Clacton but it showing up as having been posted from Manila?

It’s a possibility but the Police use similar software to companies like ITV and BBC in detecting VPNs so it’s possible with the right software to screen most of them out. I went to a session organised by he GMP analysts in identifying and linking far right wing social media accounts when the EDL was in full swing and they were pretty impressive in what they did . One of the examples was matching up posts/accounts made with VPNs with other social media accounts belonging to the same person.

 

[Ax^]

Nobody's said that though. Nuance, man!

the post i quoted mentioned something about 2016

 

[The39thStep]

Twitter ( and this is only Twitter) released a statement on online racism and the Euro final:

Given the international nature of the Euro 2020 Final, it was no surprise to see that the Tweets we removed came from all over the world. However, while many have quite rightly highlighted the global nature of the conversation, it is also important to acknowledge that the UK was - by far - the largest country of origin for the abusive Tweets we removed on the night of the Final and in the days that followed.

We also wanted to better understand the users we had permanently suspended over the course of the tournament. While we have always welcomed the opportunity to hear ideas from partners on what will help, including from within the football community, our data suggests that ID verification would have been unlikely to prevent the abuse from happening - as the accounts we suspended themselves were not anonymous. Of the permanently suspended accounts from the Tournament, 99% of account owners were identifiable.

 

[ddraig]

Twitter ( and this is only Twitter) released a statement on online racism and the Euro final:

Can you link to it please?

 

[The39thStep]

Twitter ( and this is only Twitter) released a statement on online racism and the Euro final:

The interesting thing for me is not that those abusing were from the UK but that the VPN and anonymity theory gets blown out of the water.(including the speculative notion that it was expats) Those doing the abuse can be identified.

 

[two sheds]

How fucking thick do you have to be to do that sort of shit when you're traceable?

 

[The39thStep]

Can you link to it please?

No room for racist behaviour on Twitter

Racist behaviour, abuse and harassment have absolutely no place on our service. At Twitter, protecting the health of the public conversation is essential to us.

blog.twitter.com

 

[Pickman's model]

Can you link to it please?

it took all of two seconds to find it Combatting online racist abuse: an update following the Euros

 

[Pickman's model]

No room for racist behaviour on Twitter

Racist behaviour, abuse and harassment have absolutely no place on our service. At Twitter, protecting the health of the public conversation is essential to us.

blog.twitter.com

that's from february

 

[The39thStep]

How fucking thick do you have to be to do that sort of shit when you're traceable?

Perfectly understandable issues of accounts being hijacked/drink had been taken/ I'm quarter South African married to a German type misunderatndings

 

[The39thStep]

that's from february

Thanks,

 

[Ax^]

How fucking thick do you have to be to do that sort of shit when you're traceable?

it only banter ***


the retort of a generation of fuckwits

 

[ska invita]

todays

UK main origin of Euros abuse - Twitter

The UK was "by far" the main origin of the "abhorrent racist abuse" on Twitter after England lost the Euro 2020 final, says the social media platform.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[ddraig]

it took all of two seconds to find it Combatting online racist abuse: an update following the Euros

Wouldn't have asked if it wasn't linked and would have linked it if quoting from it myself
Better all round if sources quoted, sure even you'd agree

 

[ddraig]

No room for racist behaviour on Twitter

Racist behaviour, abuse and harassment have absolutely no place on our service. At Twitter, protecting the health of the public conversation is essential to us.

blog.twitter.com

Thanks, appreciated

 

[Pickman's model]

Wouldn't have asked if it wasn't linked and would have linked it if quoting from it myself
Better all round if sources quoted, sure even you'd agree

he did quote the source.

which is how i found it.

 

[two sheds]

and how many were actually English living overseas?

not many, it seems

 

[flypanam]

People shouldn't be too hard on some England fans because some of them go abroad and bury themselves in the local culture, just like Chelsea did in Belfast BBC NI denies sectarian swearing on Newsline Super Cup report after social media outcry

 

[Steel Icarus]

These are the real - and far more representative - football fans.

Saka given standing ovation at Brentford

Bukayo Saka is given a standing ovation by Brentford and Arsenal fans on his first Premier League appearance since Euro 2020.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[brogdale]

These are the real - and far more representative - football fans.

Saka given standing ovation at Brentford

Bukayo Saka is given a standing ovation by Brentford and Arsenal fans on his first Premier League appearance since Euro 2020.

www.bbc.co.uk

That was a joy to behold.

 

[ska invita]

These are the real - and far more representative - football fans.

Saka given standing ovation at Brentford

Bukayo Saka is given a standing ovation by Brentford and Arsenal fans on his first Premier League appearance since Euro 2020.

www.bbc.co.uk

cant imagine that happening at Chelsea!

 

[brogdale]

cant imagine that happening at Chelsea!

That's because that business is an all round cunt magnet.

 

[Pickman's model]

cant imagine that happening at Chelsea!

It's something that can only be imagined

 

[The39thStep]

Would worry about Chelsea , worry about Leeds although their FLAF group will hopefully be on the case

 

[Athos]

Would worry about Chelsea , worry about Leeds although their FLAF group will hopefully be on the case

That doesn't bother me. It's the role of club fans to get under the skin of opposition players; as long as its not racist (in content, or in motivation), then have at it.

 

[Pickman's model]

That doesn't bother me. It's the role of club fans to get under the skin of opposition players; as long as its not racist (in content, or in motivation), then have at it.

I am surprised you don't declare your opposition to all hate speech, declaring racism beyond the pale but not say homophobia or sectarianism seems perverse

 

[Athos]

I am surprised you don't declare your opposition to all hate speech, declaring racism beyond the pale but not say homophobia or sectarianism seems perverse

Fair point. For completeness, I should have included all hate speech, but, given the context, I was focusing on racism.

 

[Steel Icarus]

That's - I hesitate to use the word, but here goes - bantz.