littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Should Crawley have been out? I'm listening to talk sport, which is unanimous that the third ump fucked that up.
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planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
No, ball went into ground quite clearly (ish). It was definitely not out.
Mumbles274
running from law and the press and the parents
Don't think there was enough to change to soft decision of not out. It was impossible to tell if the ball came off bat or bat/ground imo
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Crawley is flying. Deserves a century. He's left loads of balls really well and is now hitting the bad ball.
And Root is sweeping. England on top, gasp.
150 partnership. Highest 2nd wicket partnership for 6 years.
And Root is sweeping. England on top, gasp.
150 partnership. Highest 2nd wicket partnership for 6 years.
Mumbles274
running from law and the press and the parents
It was mentioned that this is the first time they'd got to 100 for 1 instead of 2. Of fucking course... Root is at 3!!!
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Yeah, deserved. And smashes his personal coach's (Rob Key) bogie of scoring a double ton for England but never another century.
He's played well.
He's played well.
Mumbles274
running from law and the press and the parents
Good knock
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
The pitch is as flat as a pancake and there's no way England are taking 10 wickets on this.
Batting practice.
Batting practice.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Meanwhile, it's another flat deck in Pakistan and India are playing Sri Lanka in a day-nighter that won't make it to day 4. Ball shooting along the ground in the first session of the match. India have probably won already cos they've scored 240.
I know nothing about pitch preparation, tbf, but is it really that hard to produce something in between those two extremes?
I know nothing about pitch preparation, tbf, but is it really that hard to produce something in between those two extremes?
I never quite understood why he was so obstinate about not batting at 3. And why the management didnt just tell him, 'Joe, we're paying you a fuckload of money, bat at fucking 3'. That's where you want your best batsman.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Picky but plenty of top batsmen play at 4 (Smith, Lara etc). But it's where England needed a batsman. FWIW (nothing) I still say Crawley is a number 3 but he's forced into opening now because a) we have no openers and b) he's started to make a fist of it. He played really well yesterday. But he will get out a lot for low scores. He's not a natural opener (but he may well work on it, hard worker according to Gower).
Well. Maybe I'm old fashioned. But when I played it was definitely considered best to put your main man in at 3. That wasn't me by the way, I was usually batting at 11 or 12. I guess the regime change has worked though and he's had to toe the line. And hey, its worked. Batting at three for England usually involves basically being an opener given how shit the actual ones are, facing the new ball, so maybe that was his concern.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Depends on the make-up of the rest of the team. Tendulkar batted four behind Dravid, who was a perfect no 3. Kohli batted four for a few years behind Pujara - similar kind of set-up. Smith now bats four behind Labuschagne.
I do actually agree that, in this team, Root probably should have been at three a while ago - precisely because they don't have another quality player for the three slot - but I don't think it's always a given that your best player bats 3. You might have a very solid, but perhaps a little slow, player who is better suited to three than four. Jonathan Trott was another.
btw his reasoning for batting four was that he wanted a mental break from being captain on the field so that he could reset for batting. I can kind of see that. Batting at three, you need to be padded up and mentally prepared to go in straight away.
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planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Decent ODI innings from Lawrence there.
Wtf is going on? The only way they can lose this is with a rush of wickets.
Oh look, Root's out.
They are batting for a declaration. There is no way they can win this. They could have had some proper batting practice.
Wtf is going on? The only way they can lose this is with a rush of wickets.
Oh look, Root's out.
They are batting for a declaration. There is no way they can win this. They could have had some proper batting practice.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
I really like the intent. Absolutely they should bat for a declaration. Give WI 70 overs to survive.
After all, England failed to manage it vs India at Lord's. There was very little in that pitch, but panic set in. Both of these teams are well capable of collapsing on just about any pitch.
After all, England failed to manage it vs India at Lord's. There was very little in that pitch, but panic set in. Both of these teams are well capable of collapsing on just about any pitch.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
We don't even have 4 fit bowlers. And I doubt it will be 70 overs. And there's back to back tests coming up.
Edit. Bye Stokes.
Edit. Bye Stokes.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Making a bit of a mess of it now, granted. 
Not easy to tee off on a slow pitch.
Not easy to tee off on a slow pitch.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Wow. 70 overs it is.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Maybe there's something I don't know about Overton turning into Curtley Ambrose when the 4th innings pitch is flat and dead.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
No Mark Wood is a blow, certainly. Get Leach going one end and rotate the quicks at the other. Maybe Lawrence can have another twirl??
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Three down at tea. Still 38 overs left. This ain't over. Leachy five-fer?
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Like I said, these two teams can collapse on anything.
Bonner and Holder the key now. Get one of these two quickly and it's panic stations.
Bonner and Holder the key now. Get one of these two quickly and it's panic stations.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Curtley is not happy.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Ok, Dan Lawrence is on. Shit just got serious.
In the previous 3 innings of this match, between the 40th and 70th overs of those innings, 2 wickets in total have been taken. Dead ball, flat pitch. Batsmen can only get themselves out (which is what has happened with 2 of the 4 wickets in this innings).
In the previous 3 innings of this match, between the 40th and 70th overs of those innings, 2 wickets in total have been taken. Dead ball, flat pitch. Batsmen can only get themselves out (which is what has happened with 2 of the 4 wickets in this innings).
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
That missed DRS was the last chance.
I know it's a dead pitch, but I'm concerned by the lack of penetration of Woakes and Overton. Fun watching Foakes standing up to them, but that also says something. And they've got precious little movement.
The seam bowling wasn't a problem in the Ashes. Batting and spin bowling were a problem. Somehow they've managed to turn that around this match - batting and spin bowling ok, seam bowling poor.
I feel a little bit for Hameed. His England career is probably toast now, but he would have scored runs in WI with this low bounce. The tours came the wrong way around for him.
Please, England, don't pick Woakes and Overton as the opening bowlers again. Please.
I know it's a dead pitch, but I'm concerned by the lack of penetration of Woakes and Overton. Fun watching Foakes standing up to them, but that also says something. And they've got precious little movement.
The seam bowling wasn't a problem in the Ashes. Batting and spin bowling were a problem. Somehow they've managed to turn that around this match - batting and spin bowling ok, seam bowling poor.
I feel a little bit for Hameed. His England career is probably toast now, but he would have scored runs in WI with this low bounce. The tours came the wrong way around for him.
Please, England, don't pick Woakes and Overton as the opening bowlers again. Please.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Utterly stupid. What the hell does Root think he's doing? Stokes, not fully fit, has now bowled 41 overs in the match. Why is he still bowling needing 6 wickets with 5 overs to go in the game?
