England Cricket 2022

[littlebabyjesus]

Simon Harmer out to prove that taking shitloads of wickets in the County Championship doesn't necessarily mean you're a world-beater. His reputation grew hugely while he was a Kolpak exile, but he's been outbowled so far by Maharaj in the tests they've played in tandem.

 

[WhyLikeThis]

I’ve just had a look at ticket prices for the Oval £175 for many seats. Even for day 4 which is unlikely to happen.

 

[Puddy_Tat]

I’ve just had a look at ticket prices for the Oval £175 for many seats. Even for day 4 which is unlikely to happen.

'kinell

if i tell mum-tat, i'm sure she will tell me how many shillings it cost to have a day at the oval test match in the late 1950s...

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

I've just had a look and there are tickets left for £47.50 for all the first four days I think. Which isn't cheap but isn't extreme compared to a lot of comparable stuff - I doubt you'd get into Arsenal or Spurs for a Premier League game for that for example.

 

[Petcha]

I've just had a look and there are tickets left for £47.50 for all the first four days I think. Which isn't cheap but isn't extreme compared to a lot of comparable stuff - I doubt you'd get into Arsenal or Spurs for a Premier League game for that for example.

Last time I went to Arsenal it was north of £80. And that was a sell-out. Only got tix through a mate. For 90 minutes of pretty much boredom where you can't even have a pint in your seat.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Don't get this from SA. Forty minutes of spin at both ends since lunch. Surely one spinner and rotate the quicks until the new ball.

Nortje back on now but surely way too late.

 

[kabbes]

When was the last time that England had a decent first innings lead AND Root failed to perform in it?

 

[Petcha]

I believe Stokes' doco is released today. You just know the fucker's gonna get a century.

 

[Spymaster]

Don't get this from SA. Forty minutes of spin at both ends since lunch. Surely one spinner and rotate the quicks until the new ball.

Nortje back on now but surely way too late.

It's looking like going with 2 spinners was a blunder, isn't it?

 

[WhyLikeThis]

I've just had a look and there are tickets left for £47.50 for all the first four days I think. Which isn't cheap but isn't extreme compared to a lot of comparable stuff - I doubt you'd get into Arsenal or Spurs for a Premier League game for that for example.

Shite seats for that mind. The £175 aren’t the best positions either.

 

[WhyLikeThis]

This Broad should have a lucrative T20 career ahead.

 

[Petcha]

Hmm... so many dodgy decisions from Elgar here. Leaving out one of his best bowlers, batting in humid cloudy conditions, beginning the session with two spinners when he's got a bowler steaming in reversing it at 95mph.

I wonder if he likes leather jackets. I can't see any other reason.

Hansie Cronje made his long-awaited appearance before the King Commission yesterday and electrified the packed courtroom when he said that the Indian captain Mohammad Azharuddin had introduced him to the bookmaker who set him on his downward path by paying him $30,000 (£20,000) on December 10 1996, and that the forfeiture of innings that led to England's victory in the fifth test at Centurion Park at the beginning of this year came at the behest of a bookmaker.

The South African captain received R50,000 (£5,000) and a leather jacket for helping to bring about a result after the rain-affected test.

 

[WhyLikeThis]

This would be my first preference but £598.80?

 

[WhyLikeThis]

£175 for a decent but not particularly amazing seat

 

[WhyLikeThis]

Ton for Foakes!

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Foakes is a terrific keeper. Just wish he could bat.

The most quickly backfiring opinion on this thread since I reckoned England couldn't bully the India attack.

 

[kabbes]

On the BBC webpage thingy, they’re actually debating whether England should declare. Surely, this is madness? There are three days left, why on Earth would you declare?

 

[littlebabyjesus]

On the BBC webpage thingy, they’re actually debating whether England should declare. Surely, this is madness? There are three days left, why on Earth would you declare?

Anderson not padded up, so they will declare when the ninth wicket falls.

I don't mind that. Risking Anderson getting hit isn't worth it. Half a dozen overs at tired openers would be handy.

 

[kabbes]

Alright, I’ll give you that. But not before. It’s not a good strategic move or anything like that.

 

[WhyLikeThis]

Strauss’s review is here: https://resources.ecb.co.uk/ecb/doc...ormance-Review-Consultation-Material-FCCs.pdf

 

[WhyLikeThis]

Strauss’s review is here: https://resources.ecb.co.uk/ecb/doc...ormance-Review-Consultation-Material-FCCs.pdf

I’m glad to see he wants to see a concentration of talent in a smaller top tier of the championship. However, I would like to have seen a proposal to replicate test cricket as much as is feasible for this league. Play for 5 days, use of DRS and bigger attendances.

 

[Petcha]

The most quickly backfiring opinion on this thread since I reckoned England couldn't bully the India attack.

It was a fairly decent knock. Pretty sub-par bowling though you have to say. He'll pass for now.

 

[Petcha]

That didnt look like it pitched outside leg to me. Must be dodgy technology. Surely the human eye is more trustworthy.

 

[WhyLikeThis]

Wasting the new ball on Leach. Give it to Broad.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

SA survive. Good game to win from here.

 

[Idaho]

Jack Leach's reverse sweep must be the champagne moment of the match.

South Africa to grind back 380 runs leaving us 120. We collapse to 80-6, and the nighthawk is sent out...

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I’m glad to see he wants to see a concentration of talent in a smaller top tier of the championship. However, I would like to have seen a proposal to replicate test cricket as much as is feasible for this league. Play for 5 days, use of DRS and bigger attendances.

Four days is fine. Maybe a five-day tournament final - I liked that with the Bob Willis trophy, and other countries such as Australia do similar. But four days in the CC is enough mostly - they get 96 overs in per day and there are lots of results.

As for bigger attendances for the CC, you can't just magic that up. it's already not a badly attended tournament so long as you don't have unrealistic expectations. On average across the season CC matches get around 1,000 people per day - pre-pandemic, the total figure was around half a million. Many/most of those are members who often pop in for a session or two here and there, but on a warm Saturday or at a festival, you might get 3-4,000 at the better-attended clubs. That's not bad. It's way more than other countries get - Aus's Sheffield Shield mostly plays out in front of completely empty stadiums.

The thousands of members across the country who part-own the counties and support the Championship are a crucial part of the bedrock of cricket in this country. Often they'll also be involved in running local clubs. There wasn't much wrong with a CC with two divisions of nine, everyone plays each other twice, and most members liked that set-up. Getting more festivals going would be great, but the CC isn't the Blast or the Hundred and it shouldn't try to be. It gets knocked constantly, but pre-pandemic, attendances were actually on the rise.

And DRS is really expensive. I'm a fan but I really don't see the point of it for the CC. Rolling it out even just for the top division would cost millions. That's a non-starter.


The biggest problem with the structure is that players can earn twice as much for a month of the Hundred than a season in the CC. That's before even factoring in playing in t20 leagues around the world. The ECB has created that situation. I doubt they are serious about changing it.

 

[WhyLikeThis]

Four days is fine. Maybe a five-day tournament final - I liked that with the Bob Willis trophy, and other countries such as Australia do similar. But four days in the CC is enough mostly - they get 96 overs in per day and there are lots of results.

4 day matches in division one has produced over 40% draws so far in 2022. That is not healthy for the game. A smaller top tier will enable 5 day games.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

4 day matches in division one has produced over 40% draws so far in 2022. That is not healthy for the game. A smaller top tier will enable 5 day games.

This season, yes. Many of those have been 600 plays 700 snore draws that wouldn't have produced a result in six days. They've had the same batch of crap Duke's balls as the tests, which is a big part of that.

The change years ago from three to four days was needed, but four days is enough if you have a ball that doesn't go soft after 25 overs.

 

[WhyLikeThis]

As for bigger attendances for the CC, you can't just magic that up. it's already not a badly attended tournament so long as you don't have unrealistic expectations. On average across the season CC matches get around 1,000 people per day - pre-pandemic, the total figure was around half a million. Many/most of those are members who often pop in for a session or two here and there, but on a warm Saturday or at a festival, you might get 3-4,000 at the better-attended clubs. That's not bad. It's way more than other countries get - Aus's Sheffield Shield mostly plays out in front of completely empty stadiums.

I wasn’t proposing the ECB use magic to increase attendance. They have plenty of cash to help counties promote attendance through a variety of means. To clarify, this does not include summon daemons or the use of voodoo.