Do angry vegans turn you against going vegan?
- Thread starter Watermelon Man
- Start date
PaoloSanchez
Well-Known Member
Marvellous isn't it?
This reminded me of those various "children not wanting to eat animals" youtube videos. This one in particular...
...and it's apparently the vegans who "force their beliefs on their children."
8ball
Decolonise colons!
The 'Santa argument' is a pretty nice touch tbf.
I wouldn't have been able to make her eat it personally.
I think I'd have been Googling 'best vegan diet for growing child' and riding out the moral fables at teatime til another kid had a birthday party at McDonald's...
I wouldn't have been able to make her eat it personally.
I think I'd have been Googling 'best vegan diet for growing child' and riding out the moral fables at teatime til another kid had a birthday party at McDonald's...
Last edited:
hipipol
Peckham Wry
Well, most seems positive re the UKs first Vegan Football team to get into the bottom league of the "proper" FA - there is a contrarian view to come but just look at this bits first........
The FGR vegan football pie scores top three in the British Pie Awards / 2017 / First Team News / News / Home - Forest Green Rovers Football Club
Forest Green Rovers: the (almost) 100% vegan football club
Oh dear, I was going to post a link to a base level sarcasm driven classic little Englander "no strength without British Beef" article in The Fail but the page wont open properly, keeps causing Explorer to collapse and close - I didn't realise that this old Dell Desktop was able to express such good taste!!!
Seems fitting tho - anyway if you want the opposite view there are acres of it about, though, as you can see I am unable to provide as my PC seems to have moved into "Rage Reduction Mode" where it prevents me from seeing knee jerk reactionary tosh that will drive me CrazyWhat a great machine!!!!!
PaoloSanchez
Well-Known Member
Can't really argue with that logic. Santa got old on just cookies so why can't I? Pretty sound.
(vegan cookies of course
)Yeah that was tough to watch. I showed it to my daughter who said that she would have flat out refused if we had tried anything like that on her. I don't think we've ever pressured any of the kids to eat stuff that they really didn't want.
This little girl graduated from a refusal to a TED talk and beyond...
hipipol
Peckham Wry
Can't really argue with that logic. Santa got old on just cookies so why can't I? Pretty sound.
(vegan cookies of course
Yeah that was tough to watch. I showed it to my daughter who said that she would have flat out refused if we had tried anything like that on her. I don't think we've ever pressured any of the kids to eat stuff that they really didn't want.
This little girl graduated from a refusal to a TED talk and beyond...
She's really good, but I'd hate to live with her in the family...I'd be hiding in the closet with her Mum, tho I'd be snaffling up real cheese ( I have yet to find a Vegan Cheese that replicates it properly....)
PaoloSanchez
Well-Known Member
I'm not sure I could have made such a good presentation even now muchless at the age of 10. She was excellent.
If you were a member of her family, I would have hoped that you'd be in a position where you are comfortable with your choices and based them on logic, reason and whatever makes sense to you rather than do something because you've been coerced or bullied into it.
Regarding cheese, in my 20 years of being a vegan, I've not really wanted to have cheese and don't miss it at all. Apparently, according to Neil Barnard, it's one of the most addictive foods (something to do with dopamine). There are probably some reasonable substitutes out there and no doubt they'll be improving so you might have to use a bit of trial and error before you find one that suits your taste buds.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
This was earlier this year that I tried it (vegan food van at a festival). I think Gary is a good name for it. Especially with the name Gary dying out (apparently).
Wookey
Muppet is not a slur
PaoloSanchez
Well-Known Member
I'm not sure if I've ever tried it and if so I can't remember it. Perhaps it was part of another meal or something. I imagine that there'll be quite a few different substitutes with quite a few different flavours and textures to explore.
10 best vegan cheeses
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Italy has good vegan cheese. People should probably give up trying to recreate cheddar, the results are pretty depressing. Your softer cheeses though, mozarella even, there's some potential there.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
If you eat out much it seems likely. Though yeah, I'd hope there are more 'cheese like' ones about. A nice vegan blue cheese would be good. Though I think it would be a bigger impact to cut down on factory-farmed chicken first (work canteen sandwiches).
If something has been humanely culled on reasonable grounds I have few problems with eating it, and I don't see anything necessarily so bad about well-sourced milk, but those chickens don't have a good time of things.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Mozzarella's not far off a ball of compressed tofu anyway. Soya gary could be interesting.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
mojo pixy
...שלא נמצא בשמאל
Consumerism has given us some weird shit, but vegan "cheese" is surely one of the weirdest. Like, I want cheese .. but I don't want cheese .. but I want cheese ..but I don't want cheese .. but I want cheese ..but I don't want cheese .. but I want cheese ..but I don't want cheese .. but I want cheese ..but I don't want cheese .. but I want cheese ..but I don't want cheese .. but I want cheese ..but I don't want cheese .. but I want cheese ..but I don't want cheese .. but I want cheese ..but I don't want cheese .. but I want cheese ..but I don't want cheese .. but I want cheese ..but I don't want cheese .. but I want cheese ..but I don't want cheese .. but I want cheese ..but I don't want cheese .. but I want cheese ..but I don't want cheese .. but I want cheese ..but I don't want cheese .. but I want cheese ..but I don't want cheese .. but I want cheese ..but I don't want cheese .. but I want cheese ..but I don't want cheese .. but I want cheese .. ok gimme that weird shit 
PaoloSanchez
Well-Known Member
Even before I was a vegan, Sainsbury's cheddar or Red Leicester was about as adventurous as I got. I wasn't much of a cheese connoisseur, and when I worked in Paris, found the smell of the stinky cheeses in the supermarkets there very off putting.
Yeah, humanely culled.
That well known contradiction. It's up to the individual what they feel comfortable with and what sort of killings they want to justify. So many people claim that they get their meat and dairy from good "humane" sources when the reality is that even if there was such a thing as humane slaughter, a tiny minority get their meat, dairy and fish from those sources.
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
I will have to treat myself to vegan cheese over the Yule hostilities.
It's a slippery slope, cheese. In 2003 after 20 years vegan, I decided I would start catching and eating fish. The catching part was necessarily a token gesture because I'm a long way from the sea and I didn't fancy what I could catch in the local river and canal ...
Cheese, eggs and dairy snuck in with fish products I bought, rather than made myself, and the seasonal Camembert that went so well with French wine turned into a regular indulgence. I even bought a few Margerita pizzas ...
I can see it being a significant issue when I move to France and get invited out for the odd aperitif (it's my intention to make an effort to be sociable).
(Eating fish is almost a given- I turn into dolphin mode just watching David Attenborough on TV - let alone when I'm living near the sea.)
It's a slippery slope, cheese. In 2003 after 20 years vegan, I decided I would start catching and eating fish. The catching part was necessarily a token gesture because I'm a long way from the sea and I didn't fancy what I could catch in the local river and canal ...
Cheese, eggs and dairy snuck in with fish products I bought, rather than made myself, and the seasonal Camembert that went so well with French wine turned into a regular indulgence. I even bought a few Margerita pizzas ...
I can see it being a significant issue when I move to France and get invited out for the odd aperitif (it's my intention to make an effort to be sociable).
(Eating fish is almost a given- I turn into dolphin mode just watching David Attenborough on TV - let alone when I'm living near the sea.)
Last edited:
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
What fish have you caught yourself and eaten?
ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
more weird than curd from secretions of cows and goats meant for their own offspring??Consumerism has given us some weird shit, but vegan "cheese" is surely one of the weirdest. Like, I want cheese .. but I don't want cheese .. but I want cheese ..but I don't want cheese .. but I want cheese ..but I don't want cheese .. but I want cheese ..but I don't want cheese .. but I want cheese ..but I don't want cheese .. but I want cheese ..but I don't want cheese .. but I want cheese ..but I don't want cheese .. but I want cheese ..but I don't want cheese .. but I want cheese ..but I don't want cheese .. but I want cheese ..but I don't want cheese .. but I want cheese ..but I don't want cheese .. but I want cheese ..but I don't want cheese .. but I want cheese ..but I don't want cheese .. but I want cheese ..but I don't want cheese .. but I want cheese ..but I don't want cheese .. but I want cheese ..but I don't want cheese .. but I want cheese ..but I don't want cheese .. but I want cheese ..but I don't want cheese .. but I want cheese .. ok gimme that weird shit
people want what they used to have without the cruelty and/or plant based, it's quite straightforward
Last edited:
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
three pollack and a mackerel
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
mojo pixy
...שלא נמצא בשמאל
Yes, even more weird than that. A facsimilie of weirdness.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Aye, the usual suspects.
I haven't done too much sea fishing but I do enjoy beach casting on a wild and windy day. Pollack, mackerel, and bass is pretty much all I've caught but I did once hook a fucking massive halibut that got away
Last edited:
Similar threads
