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Do angry vegans turn you against going vegan?

OzT said:
Oh I agree restaurants markups are not just the raw ingredients, I just woudl have thought be cheaper dishes than meat as the raw is cheaper, and, this is just my ignorance, I would have thought veggie dishes requires less cooking than meat dishes?

I reckon it's just restaurants making a larger percentages on veggie dishes for the moment, until maybe whenit becomes mainstream?
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I don't believe that there's any significant additional markup (if any at all) for veg*n restaurants or that they are overcharging their customers. Of course I could be wrong but I haven't seen or heard evidence of this. Any place that is ripping off customers whether they be veg or non-veg will get poor ratings and lose customers so I would have thoutht that it makes more sense for them to provide good service and value.
 
Perhaps I have lived a very sheltered life but I have yet to be attacked by an angry vegan, are their great herds of them filling the streets with anti-carnivore, anti-pescatarian and anti-non-vegan vegetarians slogans and demos, cos I've missed them all. The vegans I know are self controlled people who are less likely than most to flip out - tbf the methodology used to promote veganism seems mainly designed to bore the recipient into submission.....the length of this thread, many, many pages and no short but massive burn out rage I claim, however feebly, is representative of such techniques......;):thumbs:
 
William of Walworth said:
As a very readable piece about veganism at this time of year, I recommend this. Very far from angry (the reverse in fact) with some humour (yes, really! ;) ), and a bit of self-pisstaking, and what I thought was quite a laid-back way of pointing out how to get around some common Xmas annoyances .... :)

‘Pretend your food is disgusting’: Romesh Ranganathan’s Christmas survival guide for vegans

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You beat me to it by about 10 seconds, I had that lined up ready to post...

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hipipol said:
Perhaps I have lived a very sheltered life but I have yet to be attacked by an angry vegan, are their great herds of them filling the streets with anti-carnivore, anti-pescatarian and anti-non-vegan vegetarians slogans and demos, cos I've missed them all. The vegans I know are self controlled people who are less likely than most to flip out -
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Well apparently, they're out there somewhere. You just need to look a bit harder. If tilt your head 27.13 degrees to the left and squint your eyes, the imaginary demon vegan will physically manifest in front of you. True story bro.

hipipol said:
tbf the methodology used to promote veganism seems mainly designed to bore the recipient into submission.....the length of this thread, many, many pages and no short but massive burn out rage I claim, however feebly, is representative of such techniques......;):thumbs:
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If you ever do manage to wade through the posts in this thread, you'll no doubt see that if there is any rage to be found here, most of it is from angry non-veg*ns.
 
...nope, can't see any of those. Yet another made up concoction, looks like someone's "tripping" on silly psy bins again.

What I can see is a persistent troll regularly getting his digs and jibes in and posting weird gibberish riddles. He also appears to have some kind of visual impairment which transforms benign words like "carnist" into some kind of massive slur, while conveniently ignoring the genuine abusive slurs in the opposite direction.

I suggest that he step away and move to another more troll compatible thread where you can get up peoples noses (and yes you still are like that). In the meantime I shall continue to mostly ignore or disregard his nonsensical mumblings.
 
lol, looks like there's been a job lot at the numpty factory, they're reproducing faster than bacteria on an Ashton Agar dish. The trolls seem to be far more interested in me than I am of them, I have mostly ignored them but they keep butting in. One particularly sad individual had a rather pathetic meltdown like an angry spurned lover might, (jilted jesus?) transferring beef over to the cricket thread for no good reason, before withdrawing his last pitiful post. How embarrassing, lol. I wonder how many more attempts MI5 will try to rally fellow trolls to stop responding? He's had about 10 attempts already it would appear without much success. If only they would stop, it would be doing me a massive favour. Hurry up lads. :thumbs:
 
...and speaking of cricket, Aggers interview with Jason "Dizzy" Gillespie, coach to the likes of England players Joe Root, Gary Ballance, Jonny "headbutt" Bairstow, Adil Rashid, Liam Plunkett, Adam Lyth, on TMS last week reminded me of his wonderfully principled "fuck the sponsors" stance...

Yorkshire’s Jason Gillespie on cricket, family and why he’s batting for veganism
“Yes, they are a sponsor,” he says. “But it doesn’t mean I agree with what they do. It’s out of my control, just like the fact that cricket balls are made of leather. I’ll have it out with people, I don’t care. There’s nothing wrong with standing up for what you believe in.”

Well done Dizzy. :thumbs:
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“That year after he died I was kind of in no man’s land. I just started to do a bit of research on health and nutrition, then I watched a couple of documentaries.

“There was one in particular, Earthlings (the Joaquin Phoenix-endorsed film looking at mankind’s use of animals). It started as a health thing, but after watching that I couldn’t be a part of a society which treats animals the way we do.”

It’s now nearly two years since he consumed any animal products, his only regret being that he didn’t make the change sooner.

“It’s made me look at all aspects of my life. Things like clothing for instance. I’ll go to the St Gemma’s Hospice shop if I need a new shirt. That money goes to charity, I get a recycled shirt and I know someone’s not in a sweatshop getting 10 cents an hour to allow me to wear a T-shirt with a logo on it.

“My wife and I often talk about it, because she’s vegan as well. I feel like I’m looking through eyes without blinkers on. We treat animals like s**t, we really do. And in my opinion there’s no justification for that.

“These slaughterhouses, dairies and piggeries, zoos. It’s cruel and it’s speciesism (the idea humans have greater moral rights than animals) at its very worst and I don’t want to be part of it.

“Hopefully one day the dairy industry can be shut down. I think it’s disgusting and wrong on so many levels. Slaughterhouses too. There are a lot of things we say in this world that are bulls**t. ‘Humane slaughter’. No one’s been able to explain that to me. How is killing humane?”

Gillespie’s views will offer food for thought in a county proud of its farming heritage. Not to mention the fact the Yorkshire players’ shirts are emblazoned with the logo of cheese firm The Wensleydale Creamery.

“Yes, they are a sponsor,” he says. “But it doesn’t mean I agree with what they do. It’s out of my control, just like the fact that cricket balls are made of leather. I’ll have it out with people, I don’t care. There’s nothing wrong with standing up for what you believe in.”

A similar passion is being poured into Yorkshire’s pursuit of a place in the history books. He knows how much a third championship in a row would mean to the players and everyone connected to a club he is proud to call “the most famous in the world”.
 
PaoloSanchez said:
In the meantime I shall continue to mostly ignore or disregard his nonsensical mumblings.
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I'm amazed you bothered to post then. And in the third person too, so like you're telling me "dude I'm ignoring you" but you do it by announcing it to .. well, to whom exactly?
 
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<sniff <sniff> there's a terrible stench of troll in this thread. I wonder if this will work...

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Sue said:
Went to this a few weeks ago (well the Saturday one). Expensive.
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tbh, I'm not really one for eating out much, I'm mainly going to case out the joint and check the vibe.
Was everything there expensive? Was there anything there that you liked? Was the whole market full of "angry vegans". ;) (or hungry vegans that couldn't afford the food)
 
PaoloSanchez said:
tbh, I'm not really one for eating out much, I'm mainly going to case out the joint and check the vibe.
Was everything there expensive? Was there anything there that you liked? Was the whole market full of "angry vegans". ;) (or hungry vegans that couldn't afford the food)
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There weren't that many stalls when i was there and mainly hot takeaway food. Some stuff wasn't too bad but there were doughnuts at £3.50 each... (Was there with my sister who's been vegan for 30 years. Seemed like a pretty typical non-angry vegan crowd...)

(The Black Cat vegan café which is reasonably priced is pretty close too.)
 
Sue said:
There weren't that many stalls when i was there and mainly hot takeaway food. Some stuff wasn't too bad but there were doughnuts at £3.50 each... (Was there with my sister who's been vegan for 30 years. Seemed like a pretty typical non-angry vegan crowd...)

(The Black Cat vegan café which is reasonably priced is pretty close too.)
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I got the impression that there's only about a dozen stalls but that they are quite popular.



(she must have spent a fortune on those doughuts if they're £3.50 each.)
 
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