Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
Because rhubarb pie is fucking awesome!
Do angry vegans turn you against going vegan?
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gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
I'm not an obsessive follower of Michael Greger or any of them.
I learned from his video about the 40 year old vegan who died of heart disease and I've taken tips from his "daily dozen"
Nothing much he says is particularly controversial though I don't pay much attention to the cited research involving dripping Berry Juice on to cancer cells....
I'm constantly amazed at the likes of John McDougall holding summer courses but then some people place more importance on cooking and recipes.
We've got a "nutritional therapist" in Bristol trying to stop 5G and it's a "profession" I do not understand ... It's basically eat more veggies and fruit and less of everything else and do more exercise...
The only thing that's made me sick in 40 years is eating a lot of cake which is now far too easily available to vegans.
30-odd years ago choosing that diet kept me thin.
I learned from his video about the 40 year old vegan who died of heart disease and I've taken tips from his "daily dozen"
Nothing much he says is particularly controversial though I don't pay much attention to the cited research involving dripping Berry Juice on to cancer cells....
I'm constantly amazed at the likes of John McDougall holding summer courses but then some people place more importance on cooking and recipes.
We've got a "nutritional therapist" in Bristol trying to stop 5G and it's a "profession" I do not understand ... It's basically eat more veggies and fruit and less of everything else and do more exercise...
The only thing that's made me sick in 40 years is eating a lot of cake which is now far too easily available to vegans.
30-odd years ago choosing that diet kept me thin.
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Why?
I don't really have one, I've heard conflicting opinions as to what the people in, for example, Okinawa eat.
Dr Aseem Malhotra (Tom Watson's diet 'guru'
) recommends a diet based on the mediterranean region of Pioppi. BAsically eat lots of olive oil. He knows what he's talking about, but it's still too carby for my tastes. I can't do grains. That region was, iirc, ignored by Ancel Keys in his study - as was actual facts since he never agreed cholesterol was a problem anyway.
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
Conflicting reports about the Okinawans ?
"Diet actually centred on pork" or some such ?
well purple sweet potatoes are in short supply anyway but how about the seventh Day Adventist study ?
Extremely well-documented
"Diet actually centred on pork" or some such ?
well purple sweet potatoes are in short supply anyway but how about the seventh Day Adventist study ?
Extremely well-documented
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Proper Tidy
Arsed
Because eating should be fun?
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
Christ I just googled and came across "the real okinawan diet" and heaps more meatist stuff I hadn't realised it had got so bad
John McDougall has an expression "people like to hear good news about their bad habits."..
John McDougall has an expression "people like to hear good news about their bad habits."..
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
Nice in gin...
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
As is cucumber.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
Not just that but isofalavonoids (iirc) and various other phytochemicals show some good evidence for protecting against certain diseases.
And yes, they can affect the uptake of certain minerals. Oxalates in spinach, as well as affecting calcium, also partly negates the iron content.
It becomes very much more complex when you start putting whole meals together from multiple ingredients, though, and I don’t think there is enough evidence for the case that some “exteme carnies” take.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
I’m totally in agreement here. Food is about a lot more than just breaking things down inti constituent molecules.
I think the dietary advice from the last 30 years was probably too kind to sugar and refined carbs, but overall if you go for something similar to the “Mediterranean diet” and have a decent amount of variety in there, that there’s plenty of evidence that you won’t go far wrong.
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
I was only reminded yesterday searching on Youtube and finding a whole new load of YouTube "experts" (sv3rige et al.), of why I gave up on my diet of 2015 and settled for eating what I liked and being fat.
As a temporary diabetic, I almost immediately had to give up on the main UK diabetes support forum because of the craziness, so signed up to one committed to reversal through lifestyle change and my heart sank when I saw that at the top of the group was an "instruction" from the admin. that we needed to "detox".
The Internet massively facilitates obsession.
As a temporary diabetic, I almost immediately had to give up on the main UK diabetes support forum because of the craziness, so signed up to one committed to reversal through lifestyle change and my heart sank when I saw that at the top of the group was an "instruction" from the admin. that we needed to "detox".
The Internet massively facilitates obsession.
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Rhubarb can just fuck off and die
Poot
My wife thinks I work too hard
It has to look like something. Also some people like the meat product but not the cruelty so choose a veggie version.
karanight
Member
It does but I know how much effort goes into making the food look like meat
I don't like the cruelty and always try to but free range meat and eggs. The problem is, free range meat is very expensive so I don't always do that.
Indecently, I worked with a veggie and he always said that we shouldn't eat anything with eyes. being flippant, I asked him if he ate spuds. he went ballistic. Now that is what gets the back of meat eaters up. They need to lighten up and laugh along with everyone. I was a veggie for a while but found bacon on toast too hard to give up so I ate veggie and bacon butties.
Proper Tidy
Arsed
Dunno if everybody aware of this but the burgers and sausages don't fall of the cows and pigs fully formed. They're not natural cuts.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
Really? You're a mine of information!
Proper Tidy
Arsed
Anyway I'd imagine people make burgers out of vegetables in the shape of burgers for same reason people people make burgers out of beef mince in the shape of burgers. So they fit in buns.
karanight
Member
That's just the kind of childish comment that does you no good at all.
If you want to encourage people to eat veggie and vegan style you'll have to start putting forward constructive comments. I wasn't rude to you but you had to respond like that. Maybe you should let someone else answer for you
Baronage-Phase
Well-Known Member
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
The whole point of vegan food is there are no shots fired.
Except at the vegans by irate butchers apparently.
"shots fired" is a quip referring to a provocative statement made in the discourse.
the point I was provocatively making was that vegan food production isn't death free
Proper Tidy
Arsed
Poot
My wife thinks I work too hard
It's provocative to describe vegan food as cruelty-free? Is it really? You're about to tell me that meat is so much less cruel?
Poot
My wife thinks I work too hard
I really think a burger shape, which is the logical shape to fit in a bun (as has been mentioned) does not take 'so much effort'. Do you really think it takes a lot of effort?! How do you think it should be shaped?Funky_monks
Neo-Rustic
Of course it isn't, no food is.
Arable production will require the extermination of insect pests - either by chemical or biological means (ie you can distribute something that preys on the pest). Loads of rodents etc will die in the combine (birds of prey love harvest time), larger pests (birds, rats rabbits) will also be killed.
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