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"Did two hired assassins snatch weapons inspector David Kelly?"

Look, can I just ask what the evidence is for the hired assassin theory? Is there any? Were any known assassins seen in the area?
 
bluestreak said:
Look, can I just ask what the evidence is for the hired assassin theory? Is there any?
There is none. None whatsoever and fuck knows where the "two assassins" claim from.

It's all book-promoting fantasy and wild speculation.
 
And do either Jazzz or fela actually have anything to add themselves that increases the sum of knowledge that we have regarding the death of Dr Kelly?
 
bluestreak said:
Look, can I just ask what the evidence is for the hired assassin theory? Is there any? Were any known assassins seen in the area?
It's all in Norman Baker's head... I mean book... I mean head.
 
So should we really be discussing the fantasies of an already overpaid MP pimping his fact-free pulp to the only people gullible enough to pay for it? Is there not anyone sensible dealing with this?
 
bluestreak said:
So should we really be discussing the fantasies of an already overpaid MP pimping his fact-free pulp to the only people gullible enough to pay for it?
No. We should take note, roll our eyes, and move on.
 
bluestreak said:
So should we really be discussing the fantasies of an already overpaid MP pimping his fact-free pulp to the only people gullible enough to pay for it? Is there not anyone sensible dealing with this?
Did you read the book extract? It is well-researched, argued, and simply discusses evidence.

Seeing as you think the death of Kelly is 'dodgy as fuck' have you really nothing better to do than throw mud at those who are campaigning for a proper inquest and investigation into his death?
 
Jazzz said:
Did you read the book extract? It is well-researched, argued, and simply discusses evidence
and provides zero evidence of there being 'two hired assassins'
 
Jazzz said:
Did you read the book extract? It is well-researched, argued, and simply discusses evidence.
I read the whole thing last night and I cannot agree that it is well-researched and argued. It is simply speculation and wild theorising with not one shred of evidence to back up any of the claims made.
 
Jazzz said:
Did you read the book extract? It is well-researched, argued, and simply discusses evidence.
Seeing as you started this thread could you FINALLY produce the compelling evidence for the existence of these "two hired assassins" please? And why two?
 
If i read it and there's no evidence there Jazz I'm putting you on ignore with the racists and the morons.
 
Will S. said:
Enter Murtherers.


FIRST MURTHERER: Where is your husband?

LADY MACDUFF: I hope, in no place so unsanctified

Where such as thou mayst find him.

FIRST MURTHERER: He's a traitor.

SON: Thou liest, thou shag-ear'd villain!

FIRST MURTHERER: What, you egg!

Stabs him.

:D
 
Paulie Tandoori said:
It is simply speculation and wild theorising with not one shred of evidence to back up any of the claims made.
Ah, but you've got to remember that Jazzz wouldn't recognise "evidence" if it stood up and slapped him!
 
however cogent a newspaper article, it cannot prove a case--we will have to wait till the full book comes out, and assess it.

The sad thing is, the association of Jazz with fruitloop ideas on 9/11, Ian Huntley etc rather reduces his credibility in referring to cases (and this may be one, don't know yet) where there is evidence of prima facie wrongdoing.

As stated though, I will wait till the book comes out before making any defintive comments.
 
Larry O'Hara said:
The sad thing is, the association of Jazz with fruitloop ideas on 9/11, Ian Huntley etc rather reduces his credibility in referring to cases (and this may be one, don't know yet) where there is evidence of prima facie wrongdoing.
which is precisely what Jazz is paid to do by ******
 
Larry O'Hara said:
however cogent a newspaper article, it cannot prove a case--we will have to wait till the full book comes out, and assess it.

The sad thing is, the association of Jazz with fruitloop ideas on 9/11, Ian Huntley etc rather reduces his credibility in referring to cases (and this may be one, don't know yet) where there is evidence of prima facie wrongdoing.

As stated though, I will wait till the book comes out before making any defintive comments.

I tend to think that writing a book for money, selling the rights to a newspaper etc as opposed to compiling and taking any supposed 'evidence' to the OB or CPS and asking them to look at it, or perhaps simply by releasing said 'evidence' into the public domain and not making any money from it would enhance the credibility of what's being said.

But like so many 'conspiracy' evidence, it's being used to pull in the punters and the filthy lucre...
 
bluestreak said:
If i read it and there's no evidence there Jazz I'm putting you on ignore with the racists and the morons.
What evidence are you looking for exactly? I've already stated that the thread title is speculation, what is not speculation is the evidence that he was murdered by person or persons unknown and the subsequent investigation and inquest a sham.

If as you say you believe that this episode is 'dodgy is fuck' and yet still side against those arguing for a re-opening of the inquest then please do put me on ignore because I can do really do without that attitude. At least editor for example stands up for he believes.
:rolleyes:
 
Jazzz said:
I've already stated that the thread title is speculation
speculation based on what exactly? absolutely fuck all. why didnt you title it 'did tharg kill kelly?' was it on the instructions of your paymasters?
 
Jazzz said:
What evidence are you looking for exactly? I've already stated that the thread title is speculation, what is not speculation is the evidence that he was murdered by person or persons unknown and the subsequent investigation and inquest a sham.

If as you say you believe that this episode is 'dodgy is fuck' and yet still side against those arguing for a re-opening of the inquest then please do put me on ignore because I can do really do without that attitude. At least editor for example stands up for he believes.
:rolleyes:

Well, really if a thread is started on a subject that has been done to death, I'd kind of like new revelations. Actually I am in favour of a transparent reopening, because I'm a believer in that sort of thing. However, I am not a believer in wild speculation based on nothing more than the ramblings of someone with a profit motive.

By all means bring something new and relevant to the table, but simply repeating that 'what is not speculation is the evidence that he was murdered by person or persons unknown and the subsequent investigation and inquest a sham' does not make it true. What will make it true is a proper investigation that discovers evidence that Dr Kelly was murdered - a paper trail, a smoking gun, a confession etc etc.

I don't understand you. You're a smart bloke with a good heart, and quite rightfully don't believe the lie machine, but you seem to have a blind spot relating to the difference between opinion and fact.
 
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