David Icke on the Russell Brand show
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frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
fattboy said:
And? what are you trying to imply?
Mearsheimer and Walt recently published a book about the power of the israel lobby in the United States and theyre two of the most respected international relations scholars ... i have to study their articles and books and i can tell you my god some of it is extremely boring, but i would be extremely surprised if they didn't have huge amounts of moeny - yet according to you they shouldn't be as influential as they are and this shouldn't happen!
pat robertson is rich as fuck and any republican candidate these days has to stay on the irght side of him ... yet twenty years ago or so he was alleging zionist conspriacies in the american government. sorry but for a conspiracy that's been going on for years, helped to start world war 2 and actually involves him according to some people, that really isn't very good!!!
and have you actually read any of michael moore's books? In "Dude, where's my country" he actually talks about some of this "israeli lobby" stuff ...
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
fattboy said:
I didn't say that it was in their intersts, i said it was in the interests of the ruling class - the exact opposite.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
fattboy said:
Heresy was on of the charges used by the church to get at their gold yes, but 200 years later - not the second they came out of Jerusalem as per your claim.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
And by the way, the Israeli lobby can't be THAT powerful if people like Jack Abramoff are being convicted on criminal charges and Paul Wolfowitz, one of the leading advocates of the Iraq war, was forced to resign from the World Bank in disgrace (as well as the question of why someone so obviously unsuitable for the job was placed in that role to begin with).
Meltingpot
Living in our pools we soon forget about the sea
8den said:
You called me a moron as I recall and I didn't insult you. Can't you debate without throwing around insults?
None of us knows everything or we wouldn't be here.
Bob_the_lost
Elsewhere
Well you do believe in Uri Geller's psykick shite so you sort of walked into the moron accusation.Meltingpot said:
Meltingpot
Living in our pools we soon forget about the sea
Bob_the_lost said:
Not at all, I'm happy to accept that he may just be a performance magician (and if he is one he's a damn good one).
But even if I did, how would that justify insulting me? And 8den's insult wasn't for that anyway, it was for something I said about the assassination of JFK.
I don't get paid for posting here, there aren't even rep points on this board so the only point in posting here is if it's fun. Having to wade through a river of invective every time I go to make a debating point that's even 1% outside the mainstream isn't my idea of fun.
Bob_the_lost
Elsewhere
Not even a nice Bordeaux getting a look in?fogbat said:It's how I would have wanted to go
Meltingpot
Living in our pools we soon forget about the sea
frogwoman said:
Good point.
Bob_the_lost
Elsewhere
If your debating points involve the assassination of JFK as anything other than an example of conspiracy theorists with too spare time and too little grip on reality then i'm not going to worry too much about your wading abilities.Meltingpot said:
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
The wealthiest and largest lobby group in the USA isn't AIPAC, btw, it's a group which lobbies on behalf of pensioners.
Those evil pensioners, with their walking sticks and false teeth, they're threatening our society and impeding human progress with their old fashioned ideas. And most of them don't work - they just sponge off hard working taxpayers. Look how much money some of them have - if they didn't, they wouldn't be the wealthiest lobby group in the USA would they? They cause all the problems in the world - after all, everyone who does something bad eventually gets old, don't they? There must be a coincidence. And look how many countries have governments where most people in charge are over 60. The average age of Japan's MPs is about 72. Burma's generals are almost all in their 60s or 70s and look what the evil old people's conspiracy has managed to do there. The safest thing to do is to round up everyone over the age of 65 and send them to Swindon or something.
Those evil pensioners, with their walking sticks and false teeth, they're threatening our society and impeding human progress with their old fashioned ideas. And most of them don't work - they just sponge off hard working taxpayers. Look how much money some of them have - if they didn't, they wouldn't be the wealthiest lobby group in the USA would they? They cause all the problems in the world - after all, everyone who does something bad eventually gets old, don't they? There must be a coincidence. And look how many countries have governments where most people in charge are over 60. The average age of Japan's MPs is about 72. Burma's generals are almost all in their 60s or 70s and look what the evil old people's conspiracy has managed to do there. The safest thing to do is to round up everyone over the age of 65 and send them to Swindon or something.
Doctor Carrot
Marxist Henchman
Meltingpot said:
You make a good point here, it's a recurring theme i've seen on urban, when someone dares to make a point that doesn't conform to the mainstream beliefs of a particular subject they're shouted down and abused. It's also amazing how some posters consider themselves experts on any given subject you care to throw at them.
I can understand people getting abused for making ridiculous claims, for example creationism is how the world came into existence, but whenever these types of threads come up, people are asked to provide links, they do and they're instantly dismissed and abused without the link being properly studied, just because it's not from a mainstream accepted source, or if someone believes in something paranormal they're instantly a moron (don't get me wrong, most of the time they are) but when some evidence arises that's worthy of debate it's again dismissed or the bar is raised higher.
I'll probably get the piss ripped out of me for making this post, so be it, but I just hope some people can be a bit more open minded sometimes and save the abuse for those who really deserve it, afterall no one knows everything.
Doctor Carrot
Marxist Henchman
8ball said:RASCIST!!!!
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
A good one? He's appallingly bad, his whole act is no more than 5 basic tricks, the sort that any beginner can learn in under an hour.Meltingpot said:
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hiraethified
Posters are generally only 'shouted down' after posters have patiently and politely asked for credible sources to back up their often-outstanding and incredible claims.Smoky said:
If the claims being made are the same ones that have already been discussed at phenomenal length many times over, you can hardly blame regulars for getting a bit exasperated.
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