Cricket World Cup 2023

[planetgeli]

Long, long running feud with Shakib which has split the team and the board. And Tamim is not the team man in all this. Overblown ego via superstar status (the PM got him, temporarily, out of his retirement huff) who refused to consider not being an opener.

Not that Shakib is without his problems...

 

[Petcha]

Maxwell seems to have woken up

 

[Spymaster]

Dave Warner might be one of the biggest wankers in the game but he's a fucking good cricketer

 

[Petcha]

He was dropped on 10 in the last game and the dutch missed a sitter of a runout with him on 30 something. He's a lucky cricketer.

 

[planetgeli]

This is making the Rugby World Cup look like a sprint. 24 games, still waiting for a nailbiter. Instead we're getting France 78 Romania 0 almost every time.

Aus were allowed to do masses for the NRR today.

Should also be said England have moved up two places in two days without even playing. Semi-finals assured.

 

[Spymaster]

He was dropped on 10 in the last game and the dutch missed a sitter of a runout with him on 30 something. He's a lucky cricketer.

6 lucky centuries has him 2nd most WC tons.

 

[Idaho]

It's been a really drab tournament. I wonder if it's the death knell for the 50 over game.

 

[Petcha]

6 lucky centuries has him 2nd most WC tons.

Oh he's a good player on his day. But this WC he's been very lucky.

 

[Petcha]

It's been a really drab tournament. I wonder if it's the death knell for the 50 over game.

I actually really hope it is. Its an anachronism now. Let's free up some time for players by getting rid of this nonsense.

 

[Spymaster]

Having it in India has been shit as well. The stadiums are too big and there aren't enough non-Indian supporters to create an atmosphere.

The tournament works in Australia and England.

 

[Petcha]

Having it in India has been shit as well. The stadiums are too big and there aren't enough non-Indian supporters to create an atmosphere.

The tournament works in Australia and England.

It's ok in NZ as well. Small grounds, grassy banks. But those stadia in India are for IPL. Punters dont give a flying fuck about this tournament there. They'll rock up to see Kohli in the flesh but that's it.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

It's been a really drab tournament. I wonder if it's the death knell for the 50 over game.

I hope not. A good 50-over game can live in the memory in the way that t20 never does.

The lack of close games has been a big problem, and a bit of a fluke tbh. We've had upsets, just not close ones.

Generally speaking, I think 50-over matches are better played on wickets that do something for the bowlers. Not a coincidence that the 2019 final was so dramatic on a very tricky surface. I think the white ball itself needs looking at. Get something that swings and seams for longer. When the ball goes soft, it makes it both harder to take wickets and harder to score, which isn't good.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Having it in India has been shit as well. The stadiums are too big and there aren't enough non-Indian supporters to create an atmosphere.

The tournament works in Australia and England.

Without wishing to sound parochial, it works best in England. Most of the teams get significant support. India, Pakistan and Bangladesh get huge support if their matches are played in the right places.

 

[Petcha]

There's too much cricket. And I say that as a cricket fan. Somebody needs to get it under control.

 

[1927]

This is making the Rugby World Cup look like a sprint. 24 games, still waiting for a nailbiter. Instead we're getting France 78 Romania 0 almost every time.

Aus were allowed to do masses for the NRR today.

Should also be said England have moved up two places in two days without even playing. Semi-finals assured.

Are you watching the game world cup as me, I'm watching the one where minnows like Netherlands are knocking over South Africa, and that famous cricketing nation Afghanistan is beating reigning world champions!

On what basis are England assured of a semi place?

 

[planetgeli]

Are you watching the game world cup as me, I'm watching the one where minnows like Netherlands are knocking over South Africa, and that famous cricketing nation Afghanistan is beating reigning world champions!

Two upsets yes. Neither of them close. They are the only thing you can talk about. Out of 24 matches.

On what basis are England assured of a semi place?

Whoosh

 

[a_chap]

For the people hoping this is the death knell of 50 over cricket, what do you hope for when that format's gone? Test Matches and T20s only?

Test Matches are allegedly dying too.

So the once magnificent game of cricket becomes solely T20 thrashes?

That's it? That's all there will be?

 

[1927]

For the people hoping this is the death knell of 50 over cricket, what do you hope for when that format's gone? Test Matches and T20s only?

Test Matches are allegedly dying too.

So the once magnificent game of cricket becomes solely T20 thrashes?

That's it? That's all there will be?

You are sadly right.The power in cricket is on the sub continent now and they would happily see all other forms of cricket fall by the wayside sacrificed on the altar of the IPL and 20 over cricket.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

You are sadly right.The power in cricket is on the sub continent now and they would happily see all other forms of cricket fall by the wayside sacrificed on the altar of the IPL and 20 over cricket.

We'll see how things play out in the next few years, but the above isn't true. Elite Indian players play in the IPL and for India and nothing else other than the odd tune-up Ranji Trophy match or whatever. Or, if they're test specialists like Pujara, they may have stints in England. India haven't lost a single player of note from test cricket on an opt-out to prioritise a white ball career.

One big domestic t20 comp, with a full international window, then 10 months a year as internationals. If only other countries could say the same.

The biggest problem is the distribution of money. India, England and Australia all have the financial muscle to lock players in to lucrative contracts but no other board comes close to them financially, and we will see more players like Trent Boult for NZ opting out of test cricket cos money. The big three are also locked in to playing one another a lot (imo too much) in test cricket, with 5-match series (England) and 4-match series (India-Aus). Meanwhile South Africa are set to play just six test matches a year for the foreseeable.

I've posted before what I think the solution to this is - a World Test Championship over a 2.5 year cycle with 3-test minimum series and equal appearance money for both sides in every series. To do that, the big three would have to concede ground, not play one another quite so often (twice every five years rather than four) and offer up some money (not loads in the scheme of things - they could easily afford to do so).

 

[Petcha]

For the people hoping this is the death knell of 50 over cricket, what do you hope for when that format's gone? Test Matches and T20s only?

Test Matches are allegedly dying too.

So the once magnificent game of cricket becomes solely T20 thrashes?

That's it? That's all there will be?

I don't think test cricket is dying at all actually. And it would benefit even more by getting rid of the halfway house that is 50 over cricket. Test cricket is hugely popular in India, England and Australia. Stick to that and T20.

You've used Boult as an example, you could use Stokes or de Kock too. These are young guys with young families. You can't expect them to play this punishing schedule. It's absurd the way it stands.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Test cricket isn't dying. But it needs care and attention. 50 over cricket may be dying. I actually think that's a shame. It's not a deal-breaker for me, though. Test cricket is where it's at. And enough people still think that across the world.

And luckily, most of the top players still think test cricket is where it's at. Listen to Virat Kohli and how he laid into the idea of four-day tests. They want to play it.

I actually liked Graeme Swann's suggestion that international t20 should be scrapped. Never going to happen, though.

 

[a_chap]

77/4 in less than 15 overs.

It's just awful to listen to

And now it's 85/5 in 17 overs. Please, make it stop.

On the plus side, it's an opportunity for Moen to single-handedly win the game...

 

[Petcha]

It's awful to watch as well. Stokes is looking terribly out of form as well, swiping and missing every ball.

 

[WhyLikeThis]

Oh dear

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Oh dear.

 

[WhyLikeThis]

Right then! The Beard That’s Feared to the crease.

 

[Petcha]

I've not really noticed that umpire who fucked up the Stokes LBW before but he was a bit shambolic in the last game too

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Joe Root only has one weakness. He is a shocking runner.

His run out started this really.

 

[Petcha]

I dont understand how they've become so shit so quickly. Joe Root should just play his test game. They all look shot. Is it a Baz thing?

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I dont understand how they've become so shit so quickly. Joe Root should just play his test game. They all look shot. Is it a Baz thing?

He runs himself out in tests as well.

They're all collectively out of form at the same time.

Moeen now gone.