planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
So basically, as we all knew, NZ picked the wrong side for the first 2 tests.
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littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Yes. They've still got the wrong team tbf. Southee's had an awful year and he's looked the least penetrative of NZ's pacers all series. Smacked dismissively for four fours by Crawley in his first over. This is the problem with announcing your retirement before a series has started. It makes it difficult to drop you.
But yeah, batting-wise, you pick the player in form, surely, and that was always Young.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
As for England, that was a brainless first hour. They gave up on the idea of getting Santner out with a new ball that was doing plenty, and bowled balls that were far too good to get O'Rourke out. They were lucky to only go for 32 runs.
Theory was even being advanced that England didn't mind fielding for an hour or so to allow the wicket to dry out a bit.
Once NZ get the lead past 400 tomorrow, they should get Southee to pad up next. He may not get many bowling credits in his farewell match, but he could go down in glory with the bat.
Theory was even being advanced that England didn't mind fielding for an hour or so to allow the wicket to dry out a bit.
Once NZ get the lead past 400 tomorrow, they should get Southee to pad up next. He may not get many bowling credits in his farewell match, but he could go down in glory with the bat.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
And Santner.
They're doing really well, albeit against average bowling by all accounts.
DRS is a good thing (I know you hate Umpire's Call Petcha, but you'll just have to accept you're wrong about that
) This women's test doesn't have DRS. Tammy Beaumont was out plumb LBW 2nd ball. Not given. That feels very wrong in these days of ball tracking etc.
DRS isn't infallible, but it's a massive improvement on not being allowed to challenge Umpire error. And about a billion times better than VAR.
And it's stupid, belittling, not to have it just because the participants don't have a penis.
They're doing really well, albeit against average bowling by all accounts.
DRS is a good thing (I know you hate Umpire's Call Petcha, but you'll just have to accept you're wrong about that
) This women's test doesn't have DRS. Tammy Beaumont was out plumb LBW 2nd ball. Not given. That feels very wrong in these days of ball tracking etc.DRS isn't infallible, but it's a massive improvement on not being allowed to challenge Umpire error. And about a billion times better than VAR.
And it's stupid, belittling, not to have it just because the participants don't have a penis.
And Santner.
They're doing really well, albeit against average bowling by all accounts.
DRS is a good thing (I know you hate Umpire's Call Petcha, but you'll just have to accept you're wrong about that
DRS isn't infallible, but it's a massive improvement on not being allowed to challenge Umpire error. And about a billion times better than VAR.
And it's stupid, belittling, not to have it just because the participants don't have a penis.
They've made it even weirder by this:
So, no DRS and two debutant umpires. Brilliant. And only seven cameras in total.
Yep, get him padded up right first thing actually... it's a dead rubber. Let him get his two sixes.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
It's money, clearly. SA don't have much of it and presumably it is they who would have to pay for it. DRS is expensive - it takes a long time to set it all up. A central body should be paying for it. I agree that all tests, men or women, should have it.And Santner.
They're doing really well, albeit against average bowling by all accounts.
DRS is a good thing (I know you hate Umpire's Call Petcha, but you'll just have to accept you're wrong about that
DRS isn't infallible, but it's a massive improvement on not being allowed to challenge Umpire error. And about a billion times better than VAR.
And it's stupid, belittling, not to have it just because the participants don't have a penis.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
We easily forget that this used to happen regularly. DRS has been excellent for cricket.Well that frugalness on the DRS and appointing two brand new umps didn't work out very well for SATheir captain given out LBW, batting beautifully on 65. I wouldn't even call it an edge on to her pads, it was half her bat.
She was not pleased.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Meanwhile, England men have failed to turn up for a dead rubber again.
Matt Henry's final figures vs Zak Crawley: 6-10
Matt Henry's final figures vs Zak Crawley: 6-10
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
Any away series win is something to be pleased about overall but that's still a pretty brutal beating isn't it.
Bethell is an upside though. I wonder if Crawley (and potentially Pope) might come under a bit more pressure with players coming through who can play the way Stokes/McCullum want them to. Smith has to be in surely, Bethell is making a good case, they obviously like Jordan Cox who would have played if not injured, maybe the top 7 could be something like:
Duckett
Smith
Bethell
Root
Brook
Stokes
Cox (wk)
pretty soon.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
That's bazball tbh. It's a mixed bag. After the initial results, based on incredible individual batting performances from the likes of Bairstow, we now have a mix of big defeats and big victories with little in between. This year has seen 17 games, 9 wins and 8 defeats and nit a single close match.
Not so surprising given the all or nothing nature of them. Bethell actually promises something with more nuance at 3. Been impressed by his ability to absorb pressure as much as his ability to play shots. Only time he has lost composure was when in the 90s.
Not so surprising given the all or nothing nature of them. Bethell actually promises something with more nuance at 3. Been impressed by his ability to absorb pressure as much as his ability to play shots. Only time he has lost composure was when in the 90s.
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
Yeah he'll get over that won't he. He might need to edge one past the slips or something but if he's getting into those positions he'll get the century which will hopefully settle him down.
I suspect they'll stick with Pope for the moment but he's definitely made a case for carrying on at 3.
steeplejack
trapped lbw for a duck
Yes England men very clearly can't be arsed once they have won a series and it's annoying. Takes the shine off two very good performances (aided by NZ haplessness in the field and selection) earier in the series.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
I think NZ will be pretty disappointed with their own performances tbh, especially in the first test.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
He's surprised me, I admit. Orthodox, classical even, in technique. And unlike Pope he doesn't get anxious when he hasn't scored for a few balls.
They'll need to keep Pope on for a bit as Stokes is literally hamstrung. Nobody else has really been groomed to be captain.
The BBL commentators were cooing over the imminent arrival of Bethel over there. He's got a license to print money doesn't he, the little shit...
The BBL commentators were cooing over the imminent arrival of Bethel over there. He's got a license to print money doesn't he, the little shit...
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
He should be playing for WI really. They could do with him as well.
But I don't blame him for plumping for England.
But I don't blame him for plumping for England.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Boycott, twat that he might be (is he dead yet?) still knew a thing about cricket. He said the mark of a good batsman was a century every 5 tests or better. Joe Root is 1 in just over 4. Zak Crawley is 1 in over 13.
I think we did a collective shrug ages ago didn't we? He was obviously never going to get dropped, he had a slight resurgence and hit that first ball of the Ashes for 4, got his average just over 30. Wasn't Ollie Pope. So we all left him alone.
But yeah, he's still shit. He gets a lot of luck too.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
I predict that Bumrah will have him on toast in English conditions.
If Matt Henry, who with due respect of course, is a bit of a county bowler (albeit a very good one) can get the guy 6 times in 6. Yes. Bumrah will destroy him.
Or there's a chance Bumrah will actually move it far too much for him to even get an edge on it.
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
Listening to the Wisden podcast last week they made the semi-joking point that all Australia need to do next year is open with Mitchell Marsh. The main point in his favour is that he's done well against the Starc/Cummins/Hazlewood attack but that's not much use if you can't also deal with the fast-medium fill-in type bowlers is it.
