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Chavez tells Blair to "Go right to hell"

Johnny Canuck2 said:
Bullshit blanket statement.
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No, its true. There is no destitution, no homelessness, no malnutrition, no illiteracy in Cuba. There is plenty of all of that--and *much* more vice, crime, madness and general alienation--in Miami.
 
phildwyer said:
No, its true. There is no destitution, no homelessness, no malnutrition, no illiteracy in Cuba. There is plenty of all of that--and *much* more vice, crime, madness and general alienation--in Miami.
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Well then who are all these prostitutes and miscreants in Cuba who oppose Castro?
 
phildwyer said:
No, its true. There is no destitution, no homelessness, no malnutrition, no illiteracy in Cuba.
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Oh the buzzin' of the bees
In the cigarette trees
Near the soda water fountain
At the lemonade springs
Where the bluebird sings
On the big rock candy mountain
 
rogue yam said:
Oh the buzzin' of the bees
In the cigarette trees
Near the soda water fountain
At the lemonade springs
Where the bluebird sings
On the big rock candy mountain
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Even Castro's worst enemies wouldn't deny what I say.
 
Fez909 said:
By scattershot, I take it you mean the direct addressing of each point (until I got bored) the president made in the link you posted?
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I was referring to your simply listing a bunch of leftie buzzwords without making any coherent or original point about any of them until I got bored. We're talking about Cuba, not ContrasNicaraguaUNCHRAbuGhraibGitmoSaudi.
 
Johnny Canuck2 said:
Are you using that as a history lesson?
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No, I see it as a stunning allegory of the USA's attitude to Castro. "What the fuck you going to do now, you fucking stupid fuck? You fuck with Tony Montana, I take you all to fucking hell. Say hello to my leedle friend..." (cue bloody and futile death...)
 
I guess the point must have slipped by you. I'll spell it out.

I was showing the USA's hypocrisy in dealing with countries and issues similar to those which Bush claims are the reasons for the Cuba embargo etc., and wondering why Cuba is treated differently. See?
 
phildwyer said:
No, I see it as a stunning allegory of the USA's attitude to Castro. "What the fuck you going to do now, you fucking stupid fuck? You fuck with Tony Montana, I take you all to fucking hell. Say hello to my leedle friend..." (cue bloody and futile death...)
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Oh. To me, it's an entertainment written by hollywood scriptwriters, interesting in its portrayal of a simpleminded thug pursuing his vision of the american dream.
 
Johnny Canuck2 said:
Oh. To me, it's an entertainment written by hollywood scriptwriters, interesting in its portrayal of a simpleminded thug pursuing his vision of the american dream.
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Nah mate. Tony Montana is intended as a personification of the "gusano" mentality. That's why "Scarface," like "The Godfather II," is used as very effective propaganda by the Cuban Communists.
 
Fez909 said:
I was showing the USA's hypocrisy in dealing with countries and issues similar to those which Bush claims are the reasons for the Cuba embargo etc., and wondering why Cuba is treated differently.
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This is so tired. Every country is different. Every moment in history is different. Resources are limited. Actions must be prioritized. Realism is key. You lefties are like children. Always complaining about "unfairness" when the adults are doing the best they know how. It simply isn't sufficient to harp incessantly about "hypocrisy". To accomplish anything, you have to start somewhere and actually do something.
 
Johnny Canuck2 said:
Also, because it was the mid eighties, and the big deal was cocaine, latin and jamiaican gangs.
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The subtext, Johnny, the *subtext.* "I kill a Communist for fun, but for a green card, I gonna carve him up real nice." Come *on...*
 
phildwyer said:
Anyone who visits Cuba would have to say the same. I have a mate who's very right-wing, he hates Castro and all he stands for, but even he had to admit to being impressed by the level of popular supprt Castro has. No Western leader enjoys nearly as much.
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I know, can you imagine Bush or Blair being able to attract a million strong crowd of people to hear them speak as Castro does? (and I mean a million strong crowd of SUPPORTERS not people who want to pelt them with eggs or worse).
 
Fascist leaders inspired millions to throw themselves at opposing armies and go hysterical at rallies. It's not necessarily a good thing.
 
Its not a free society so if they say go to rally you go .He may have popular support but its not like an alternative is on offer is it ? Chavez has told tony to hand back the falklands to argentina is it me or does international
relations seem more playground squabble than normal :)
 
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