Census 2021

[brogdale]

The form is available in many languages

Slightly odd question, though.
Setting aside folk with speech impediments, even those with English as their first language might well find it difficult to decide how well they speak the language, don't you think?

 

[Orang Utan]

Is that helping folk to complete online?

Yes. We had quite a few confused people in today who didn’t know what to do.

 

[Orang Utan]

Slightly odd question, though.
Setting aside folk with speech impediments, even those with English as their first language might well find it difficult to decide how well they speak the language, don't you think?

No I don’t. I can speak rudimentary French but i am also able to make the assessment that my French is very poor. C’est la vie!

 

[Serge Forward]

No I don’t. I can speak rudimentary French but i am also able to make the assessment that my French is very poor. C’est la vie!

Rudimentary is better than mine. Although my French does have a certain je ne sais rien

 

[Orang Utan]

Rudimentary is better than mine. Although my French does have a certain je ne sais rien

Was that a deliberate mistake?

 

[Serge Forward]

Quoi?

 

[brogdale]

Yes. We had quite a few confused people in today who didn’t know what to do.

Older folk?

 

[Orang Utan]

Older folk?

Aye, and people with language barriers. You also get a lot of people who don’t read the whole letter, either cos they have literacy issues or cos they read the first paragraph and panic. This happens a lot with anything official-looking - council, DWP, HMRC, banks etc

 

[kebabking]

I'm going to risk it - I'm not fucking telling any cunt how my general health is. They can piss off, nosey cunts...

 

[Puddy_Tat]

Was that a deliberate mistake?

mange tout, rodney

 

[Orang Utan]

mange tout, rodney

Ashby De La Zouche, mon frere, Ashby De La Zouche

 

[Orang Utan]

It’s quite difficult asking very old people what their last job was (with a brief description of their duties) or the month and year that they arrived in the UK. Also the gender identity question can be met with total bafflement or outrage

 

[andysays]

There’s a Church of John Coltrane. They know he was a jazz musician. It’s tempting to think they’re just jazz fans with a heightened sense of metaphor, but they claim to be sincere.

I think I might put that down this year, although I might get Orang Utan's stern disapproval as a result

 

[Orang Utan]

I think I might put that down this year, although I might get Orang Utan's stern disapproval as a result

Do what you like - I don’t give a fuck!

 

[kebabking]

Help me Urban, for I face a conundrum....

I want to bin the thing because while I can see the usefulness of it, I simply refuse to answer questions about my health and sexuality (I'm healthy and boringly straight, but that's not the point), on the other hand I really want to write in some of the other answers, both for the (to me) lols, and just to fuck shit up.

Help me Holy Urban, for I wish to sin, I'm just not sure which one to choose....

 

[Orang Utan]

It’s quite difficult asking very old people what their last job was (with a brief description of their duties) or the month and year that they arrived in the UK. Also the gender identity question can be met with total bafflement or outrage

Also, had to ask about ethnicity when the person was unsure about a parent’s background having never met them or heard them spoke about

 

[andysays]

Do what you like - I don’t give a fuck!

I was afraid you would report me for putting down a religion which isn't a real religion, so I'm greatly relieved to hear you won't.

 

[brogdale]

Help me Urban, for I face a conundrum....

I want to bin the thing because while I can see the usefulness of it, I simply refuse to answer questions about my health and sexuality (I'm healthy and boringly straight, but that's not the point), on the other hand I really want to write in some of the other answers, both for the (to me) lols, and just to fuck shit up.

Help me Holy Urban, for I wish to sin, I'm just not sure which one to choose....

I'm thinking that for any folk that want to return with false answers/gaps it's probs best to ask for the paper version because, and I'm guessing here, I assume that the online thing will be like any fucking online form and not let you progress until you've given a response?

And for those that want the 'specially trained' goons off your case, maybe returning under "Mary & Robert Smith" might be a solution?
They'd be hard pressed to prove that you're not dumb or struggle with English enough to make such an 'innocent mistake'.

 

[Orang Utan]

I was afraid you would report me for putting down a religion which isn't a real religion, so I'm greatly relieved to hear you won't.

That would be unprofessional - I have to put down what people say, even if they misspell it

 

[belboid]

Help me Urban, for I face a conundrum....

I want to bin the thing because while I can see the usefulness of it, I simply refuse to answer questions about my health and sexuality (I'm healthy and boringly straight, but that's not the point), on the other hand I really want to write in some of the other answers, both for the (to me) lols, and just to fuck shit up.

Help me Holy Urban, for I wish to sin, I'm just not sure which one to choose....

the sexuality question is voluntary so you can ignore it if you choose. Though if you are planning on filling the rest in with made up shit, why not just make those bits up too?

 

[belboid]

goons

prick

 

[kebabking]

the sexuality question is voluntary so you can ignore it if you choose. Though if you are planning on filling the rest in with made up shit, why not just make those bits up too?

nah, theres another thats not voluntary - Q5, its about if you've been divorced and whether that person was of same or opposite sex as you.

 

[belboid]

nah, theres another thats not voluntary - Q5, its about if you've been divorced and whether that person was of same or opposite sex as you.

oh yeah, forgot that one.

 

[girasol]

There seems to be less questions than on last census? Is anyone else doing this for the religion section -> CLIMATE CONCERNED
Census 2021: Declare Yourself Climate Concerned (I haven't given them my email, but filled in the census form)
Seems like a good thing to do. I did it, not submitted yet though, my husband still has to fill in his section.

 

[belboid]

There seems to be less questions than on last census?

Fewer.

Last time there were 14 household questions and 43 individual ones. this time there are 14 and 50. Three have been added (as discussed above), i think the others are breakdowns of previously asked questions, but I haven't gone through and fully compared them.

 

[girasol]

Fewer.

pedant

 

[belboid]

now you've got me, idk. Was vaguely thinking nhs capacity planning, or what 3 things would make your life better, are you lonely, do you have any plans to reproduce, do you hope to emigrate, that sort of thing. Stuff i'd be interested in looking at the results from millions of people's input.
But I suppose if it was anonymous you could ask those things, questions about mental health, fears and priorities, how much you drink, that sort of thing, but its very not anonymous so that wouldn't actually work.

There would definitely be some use to asking about mental health. I think this is only the third time any health questions have been included, the first time it was a totally one, but they have got better.

Drinking, naah, people lie to themselves too much to get anything useful, I think. And fears and priorities is too vague, with too many potential answers that couldn't be codified neatly. Something broad might be doable, but i think you'd get a better general picture from 'normal' surveys, with smaller communities needing specific work (which would be possible when the census reveals how many and where they are!).

It takes a massive row to get any new question on there, and ones will have to slip off to accommodate them (if the form gets too big people wont bother, especially with the later sections). But the MH one would be worth apush for next time.

 

[girasol]

Fewer.

Last time there were 14 household questions and 43 individual ones. this time there are 14 and 50. Three have been added (as discussed above), i think the others are breakdowns of previously asked questions, but I haven't gone through and fully compared them.

Maybe filling the form manually felt like I was answering more questions... Took fewer than 10 mins to fill it in.

 

[andysays]

pedant

I suppose people could write that in either the religion or the national identity category, or even both if they were so inclined

 

[brogdale]

prick

Much quicker than typing out specially trained field staff to conduct formal interviews under caution as required by the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 (PACE) every time the compliance arrangements are discussed.