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Shippou-Sensei
4:1:2.5
Don't you get it £1always equals £1.
elbows
Well-Known Member
Especially relevant as it is claimed that capitalism is a great survivor because of its ability to adapt.
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
No. Fuck your false dichotomy.
Would you say your digital rights and digital privacy has improved over the past 5 or 10 years?
As your rights degrade you wll come to our side... Unless of course a social credits system makes your authoratron knickers all wet and moist.
Supine
Newt Member
You are so far down the conspiracy rabbit hole. Are you American?
No, I am not American.
I answered your closed question.
Please answer mine.
Would you say your digital rights and digital privacy has improved over the past 5 or 10 years?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Can you give some concrete examples of digital rights and digital privacy and how they have changed over the past 5 or 10 years?
fwiw the GDPR came in six years ago, so bang within your timeframe.
It's under threat in the UK. One of the many EU things they're threatening to get rid of.
But then I'm guessing you're not thinking of that. So what else?
Either way, I'll stick my neck out and say that my digital rights have improved over the past 5 or 10 years.
fwiw the GDPR came in six years ago, so bang within your timeframe.
It's under threat in the UK. One of the many EU things they're threatening to get rid of.
But then I'm guessing you're not thinking of that. So what else?
Either way, I'll stick my neck out and say that my digital rights have improved over the past 5 or 10 years.
mwgdrwg
Be a Pisces. Jam.
Can you give some concrete examples of digital rights and digital privacy and how they have changed over the past 5 or 10 years?
fwiw the GDPR came in six years ago, so bang within your timeframe.
It's under threat in the UK. One of the many EU things they're threatening to get rid of.
But then I'm guessing you're not thinking of that. So what else?
Either way, I'll stick my neck out and say that my digital rights have improved over the past 5 or 10 years.
GDPR is going. It's being replaced by a great British data protection system.
Britain to replace GDPR data privacy regime with own system
Britain will replace the European Union's data privacy regime known as the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) with its own system, culture secretary Michele Donelan said on Monday.
www.reuters.com
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
With this government, I believe they are going to change something when the change has actually happened, not before.
Supine
Newt Member
q_w_e_r_t_y
You see an investment scam and I see divinity
I'm a bit astonished that people think their digital rights and privacy have increased over the last 5-10 years.
Ring doorbells, Cambridge Analytica, Ashley Maddison, cyberstalking, NHS data sell off, revenge porn and deepfakes would all suggest otherwise.
Ring doorbells, Cambridge Analytica, Ashley Maddison, cyberstalking, NHS data sell off, revenge porn and deepfakes would all suggest otherwise.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
First up, two different things have been grouped together there - digital rights and digital privacy. I only specified rights in my reply. You can have rights to something and have those rights infringed. Most of what you list there is illegal.
How has digital privacy gone in the last 5-10 years? I don't know is the honest answer. I do know that the GDPR has had an effect on what law-abiding people do wrt data.
But I fail to see what bitcoin has to do with any of that. The one thing that is pretty secure online is bank accounts. That's the only transactional system I care about and it seems to go as well now as it ever has done.
q_w_e_r_t_y
You see an investment scam and I see divinity
Rights are only as good as their enforcement.
Full and complete complience with the GDPR is practically impossible and prohibitively expensive. Most entities are broadly complient with breaches, because on today's internet where it is possible to do x, people will do x. So we cannot have full rights, because those full rights cannot be enforced.
Imagine if every digital trace of you up to 2012 that was publicly accessible was in one pile, and every accessible digital trace of you from 2012 to 2022 was in another. Which would be larger? Few people thoughtfully choose their privacy settings on a vast variety of apps that they use regularly, many dont know how.
Privacy in bitcoin isnt great at the moment, the good news is tho that there are things like Monero, Secret Network, Darkfi etc that can provide full privacy and rights enforcement. I mean, people do have pretty poor opsec on the blockchain. The Celcius disclosure being a classic example, but on the blockchain if you know how to work permissions, you can rest assured that those permissions will work.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Pops in for a look
immediately backs out again, quietly closing the door
immediately backs out again, quietly closing the door
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
The context here is that these were replies to someone warning about the inevitability of China-style social credits. We're not inexorably moving towards a Big Brother totalitarian state, but that doesn't mean there's nothing to be concerned about and that we shouldn't be vigilant about having our privacy taken away from us by stealth. Another aspect of that that I am concerned about is the way Covid has been used as an excuse to get rid of cash.
But stating that you have to embrace crypto to avoid turning into China is alarmist nonsense, and deserves to be treated as such.
gosub
~#
China Plays Top Crypto Whale, Followed By US: Sources
Despite its harsh stance on crypto, the China government could still be holding significant amounts of Bitcoins.
blockchain.news
WHy do these corrupt and treacherous twats want anything to do with bitcoin? easier to audit trail than a lot of things, and not even as an effective carbon sink as an uncut diamond either
Wolveryeti
Detty Pig
Guy just had his collar felt for a cool $3.4bn he scammed off SilkRoad: U.S. Attorney Announces Historic $3.36 Billion Cryptocurrency Seizure And Conviction In Connection With Silk Road Dark Web Fraud
Is there a higher value recovery of stolen assets by law enforcement on record I wonder...
Is there a higher value recovery of stolen assets by law enforcement on record I wonder...
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
What do they do with their (now worth rather less than) $3.4 billion in bitcoin that they've seized (even though that's apparently impossible)? Presumably they don't return it to the drug dealers it was stolen from? Do they just dump it on the market?
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
I imagine the feds do the same thing when they seize yachts and such; they auction them off.
BigTom
Well-Known Member
No, it gets sold - this is from a previous DOJ seizure: DOJ to Sell $56M in Crypto Proceeds From BitConnect Fraud Scam
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
Interesting. Wouldn't they get more money from an auction?
elbows
Well-Known Member
Another indicator that those who delude themselves that these alternative currencies offer them freedom from control and unequal power are making the same old mistakes. Like various things seen during chapters of the internet that went before, they are not escaping the middlemen, they are swapping one sort of controlling influence and whims of the powerful for another. Blah blahing about choice doesnt save you or preserve that choice when the biggest shits manage to consolidate power.
Front page of the FT:
Front page of the FT:
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Crypto crashing hard upon news of the FTX controversy!
stdP
One Swiss dinosaur in Polly Gosling's anorak hood
Supine
Newt Member
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