mentalchik
"I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit."
Now i am in no way as educated or well read like some on this forum but even i can see that this ^ is bollocks
Barbara Ellen on "female on male" violence
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Now i am in no way as educated or well read like some on this forum but even i can see that this ^ is bollocks
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
i asked you what you understand violence to be, which is different.
equationgirl
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Don't put yourself down!
el-ahrairah
forward communism, forward gerbils!
hey Ld222 how often do women kill men who reject their advances? http://whenwomenrefuse.tumblr.com/
Ld222
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The clue is the the title of the article
'it's simply not the same if a man is hit by a woman'
Ld222
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Where have I excused MOF violence??
Ld222
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Are you saying the Samaritans are wrong?
http://www.samaritans.org/sites/def...Samaritans Suicide Statistics Report 2014.pdf
equationgirl
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What I'm saying is that the data set you have referred to is a larger dataset than the one I have linked to - also without going back to the raw datasets they have used it is very difficult to ensure the stats are correct, especially in this case as the coding for suicides has changed over the past few years has changed.
It's also caveated with this statement straight away:
equationgirl
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Answer the question.
Ld222
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The duplicity, you find nothing wrong with the tirade of abuse I have had to endure. Even to the point that I commit suicide etc, etc!!!
Ld222
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So this now the excuse to get drunk and attack men, really!!!
What is your actual point?
belboid
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those stats are somewhat different to what you claimed earlier
M - 4590
F - 1391
But then, you dont seem to bothered about actual 'facts,' just the usual tosh that all violence is bad, and there's no difference between male on female violence and female upon male
Ld222
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Whats yours??
Ld222
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What sort of society are we living in when over 5000 of our citizens decide it would be better to end their own lives rather than go on living
No one does not 'excuse' the other!!!
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
why did you lie about the stats earlier?
(and its over 6000, btw, once again, you only seem to be counting rather less than every other woman)
Ld222
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OMG your now fighting over who has the most suicides.
How much more ridiculous could this debate get.
I read the table wrong okay. Sorry!!
Gender equality, not division!!!
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
It could never get more ridiculous than your opening post was
equationgirl
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We don't the reasons why people commit suicide. No-one here is saying it's a good thing that they do, and suicide is a very different issue to violence.
Reasons are complex. For example, the punitive process that Atos puts some of the most vulnerable through has been noted as the cause in several cases.
That all you seem to be saying on the one hand is violence is bad. A point so banal I can't believe it's all you started this thread to say. OTOH you seem to think women can go around assaulting men with barely a raised eyebrow and are siting the aarticle in support. This is demonstrably rubbish and you've clearly wilfully or otherwise misread it. So being generous, I think you haven't really thought this through and are just posting defencive non sequetors. Or seemingly more likely you have some agenda that smacks of MRA crap.
So what is your point?
equationgirl
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Nobody is fighting over 'the most suicides' as you put it. Perhaps if you concentrated on one argument and debated it rather than throwing your toys out of the pram and introducing every issue you can think of (suicide! gender equality!) in a scattergun approach this thread might actually go somewhere.
equationgirl
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Ld222
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Yes, I would say 'atos' is not helping matters, broader social and economic deprivation through austerity doesn't help. Mens inability to channel their emotion properly doesn't help.
equationgirl
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'Atos doesn't help' is probably the understatement of the year. You also seem to be making sweeping generalisations about men's' emotional capability. Less generalising and more facts would probably help your arguments enormously, if you could be bothered making them.
Ld222
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Even when I'm agreeing with you I'm still wrong.
equationgirl
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Quit with the victim stance.
Ld222
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What are you talking about. I agreed with you and your still not happy. What more do you want?
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
some evidence that you've actually thought about your posts before makng them would be nice. Fewer bland statements and crude generalisations too.
Ld222
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'All you seems to' by your own admission, this your own interpretation of what I am saying. You glossing over my points, ignoring anything that is meaningful and making sweeping statements which really amount to nothing!!
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