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and i'm going to splash out on some red wine vinegar tomorrow just to make the bacon casserole. cheers for the link - i'm going to well nick her recipes :D

e2a: fucking hell, it's in four of the seven recipes. targeted at 'typical' guardian reader (at least, the food/drink section) shopper profiles much? :D
 
she seems okay, but this is blatant bollocks: http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2013/jul/20/10-pound-a-week-recipes

the idea that you could get away with feeding a kid, let alone an adult, a small bowl of mushroom soup or half a can of chickpeas for a main meal is nonsense and not really helpful


I don't know that it is bollocks tbh. I remember eating not much that wasn't based round tinned tomatoes, bacon, rice and pasta when mine were very small. They wouldn't have eaten the mushroom soup though.
 
I think her housing benefit stopped or something


reading up it appears the £10 a week for food thing came from when she had just moved in and built up rent arrears while her housing benefit claim was being processed, which she then had to try and pay off while also topping up her rent £20 per week because the housing benefit wasn't covering all of it even once they started paying
 
I don't know that it is bollocks tbh. I remember eating not much that wasn't based round tinned tomatoes, bacon, rice and pasta when mine were very small. They wouldn't have eaten the mushroom soup though.

its not presented as this is what I was forced to do though, but this is how you can live on a tenner a week for food, with a kid, and you can't - although that may be the guardians presentation rather than hers
 
Beans on toast, scrambled egg on toast, spaghetti on toast 2 or 3 nights a week when my mum ran out of money when I was a kid. We did occasionally shop at Sainsbury's when themeagre wages/maintenance money or benefits (depending on which type of poverty we were currently subject to) came through. That was like a treat. I think it was Peter Lilley taking the piss out of single mums while mine was flat broke and struggling that turned me anti-Tory for life. I remember sitting watching the news as he did his funny song and feeling like he was actually talking right at me and my mum. Fucking cunt. I'll never forgive that.
 
its not presented as this is what I was forced to do though, but this is how you can live on a tenner a week for food, with a kid, and you can't - although that may be the guardians presentation rather than hers


yeah I think it is the guardian's doing, it smacks of press angle to me (like all those fucking BBC articles on how easy (positively enjoyable!) it is to eat on no money there were recently)
 
Well off people are always so fucking keen to lecture everyone else on how cheaply you can eat.

If I here one more person talk about how they can make a chicken last a week...


They never even realise they're starting from a position of a) having the actual cash to buy a whole chicken b) having an oven, pans etc to cook it in c) having a big enough freezer to cook things in advance and freeze the results d) having a store cupboard full of basics they have already bought thus don't have to pay for with all that spare money they don't have to cook it into something more interesting/nutritionally valuable than just 'chicken'
 
Well off people are always so fucking keen to lecture everyone else on how cheaply you can eat.

If I hear one more person talk about how they can make a chicken last a week...

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It's the same with every one of these "helpful" guides.

"First, simply buy a hundredweight of lentils and 14 different condiments. And a pan bigger than your local corpo pool."
the place i used to live in bought bulk from a wholefood co-operative. with a minimum £200 order iirc (although i think they might have hijacked one of their workers co-ops names to get the 'trade' minimum £100 order :hmm:)
and they wondered why more people didn't do that and avoid supermarkets. :facepalm:
'not ever having to go to a shop for food' was one of their selling points when they advertised rooms. so yeah, i was sort of lucky to move into a very-cheap-to-eat-in house (vegan communal evening meals if possible - i used to hide and then cook my own stuff later. no meat/meat derivatives beyond the garden gate. and i was lucky enough to be able to access bulk purchasing power. but still, i always had a little bit of sick in my mouth when they* couldn't understand how people had problems surviving on benefits. and we weren't allowed our own food cupboards. or uncommunal food, unless you hid it in your bedroom).

*except for two good eggs out of eight. they were ok, tbf)
 
But surely its far cheaper to raise your own pig organically in your orchard?

http://internationaltimes.it/our-greatest-challenge/

Julian was born in March 1947, on the Hardwick Estate in South Oxfordshire's Chiltern Hills, the youngest of four children. On the premature death of his brother (1963) and his father a few years later, Julian suddenly found himself thrust from being the youngest sibling to the heir of the thousand-acre estate and baronetcy passed down from his great-grandfather.
 
But surely its far cheaper to raise your own pig organically in your orchard?


I wrote this some years ago

Come on, let’s save the planet!

I don’t think you poor people are really trying.
You could do more.

Haven’t you invested in solar panels?
You should keep chickens.
Surely you have time to make your own cheese, yoghurt, and bread.
Especially if you don’t have a job.
You could even get your children to help you.
It would do you good to have activities the whole family could participate in.
Try not to overfill your kettle.
Organic food is much tastier, so it’s worth those few extra pennies!
Plan where you could put your compost bin.
And a pen for a lovely goat.
Surely you could do without your week’s holiday somewhere warm.
Especially if you don’t have a job.
Both our cars runs on ecologically sound fuel.
You don’t have to stop spending, as long as you buy lots of eco-friendly things.
We can all save the planet together.

Just promise us
if all the good things we’re doing
and all the lovely green products we’re buying maniacally
somehow don’t work
and the climate changes apocalyptically
and we’re all trying to survive

you won’t eat us.
 
I wrote this some years ago

Come on, let’s save the planet!

I don’t think you poor people are really trying.
You could do more.

Haven’t you invested in solar panels?
You should keep chickens.
Surely you have time to make your own cheese, yoghurt, and bread.
Especially if you don’t have a job.
You could even get your children to help you.
It would do you good to have activities the whole family could participate in.
Try not to overfill your kettle.
Organic food is much tastier, so it’s worth those few extra pennies!
Plan where you could put your compost bin.
And a pen for a lovely goat.
Surely you could do without your week’s holiday somewhere warm.
Especially if you don’t have a job.
Both our cars runs on ecologically sound fuel.
You don’t have to stop spending, as long as you buy lots of eco-friendly things.
We can all save the planet together.

Just promise us
if all the good things we’re doing
and all the lovely green products we’re buying maniacally
somehow don’t work
and the climate changes apocalyptically
and we’re all trying to survive

you won’t eat us.
marry me.
 
my house helped block a co-op's loanstock/radical routes application because they were raising and as-ethically-as-you-can slaughtering their own meat :D


I'm with them on that, if there's one thing more annoying than militant vegans it's people who smugly talk about how the only eat that they meat is what they've raised and killed themselves.
 
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