Alex Callinicos/SWP vs Laurie Penny/New Statesman Facebook handbags

[Bakunin]

Has LP forsaken this discussion forever?

Be a shame if she has. It's a bit like a circus in that there's plenty of action and LP plays the role of the resident clown falling on her arse between acts.

 

[JimW]

Fair play to her, I had zero personal animus toward her to start off, thinking from the little she'd impinged on me consciousness she was just yet one more tedious example of a prevalent type, but her every intervention confirms she really goes for her role as water carrier for the established order in spades.

 

[rekil]

An Officer And A Columnist

 

[DaveCinzano]

Temporary Autonomous Sloane

 

[Bakunin]

A certain Dale Carnegie classic comes to mind.

 

[killer b]

Temporary Autonomous Sloane

brilliant.

 

[Firky]

A Song of Ice and Liars

That reminds me, need to watch that video you posted for me!

 

[andysays]

The former, but i had no idea of jifs pre-history. Someone insisted that stardrops was just a new name for another thing the other day. God i'm even boring myself.

Starburst, surely?

 

[DaveCinzano]

The Unbearable Slightness of Being

 

[butchersapron]

Starburst, surely?

Stardrops.

 

[andysays]

Stardrops.

 

[butchersapron]

A real all round star turn

Must i have to point everything out?

 

[Bakunin]

The Unbearable Slightness of Being

She's an unbearable lightweight, that's for sure.

Her professional credibility is about as solidly built as a clown car and her factual reliabilty is seldom much improved.

 

[andysays]

A real all round star turn

Must i have to point everything out?

Yeah, I found that by googling, but if it's been

Trusted by the nation since 1946​

it doesn't make much sense that someone was insisting it's a new name for something else.

Still , at least for me, not that it matters...

 

[DaveCinzano]

Anthony And Clearly Patronising

 

[fractionMan]

Self facilitating media bores

 

[DotCommunist]

The curious incidence of the liars in daytime

 

[rekil]

Tweeting The Fascists


Lest we forget



(yeah yeah i know they're not proper 'fascists' and that)

 

[DotCommunist]

I, Privileged

 

[love detective]

Tweeting The Fascists


Lest we forget

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(yeah yeah i know they're not proper 'fascists' and that)

And its sequel

Retweeting the Fascists

 

[J Ed]

http://www.newstatesman.com/society/2013/07/babies-we-dont-care-about-today

Thoughts on this article? I thought it was okay as it goes.

 

[weepiper]

http://www.newstatesman.com/society/2013/07/babies-we-dont-care-about-today

Thoughts on this article? I thought it was okay as it goes.

We never do seem to talk about those babies and their mothers, or allow them to tell their stories, and this is precisely the week when we should.

I see she's doing nothing to change that, having clearly not actually bothered to speak to any real live single mums bringing up children in poverty before writing her article about us

 

[J Ed]

I see she's doing nothing to change that, having clearly not actually bothered to speak to any real live single mums bringing up children in poverty before writing her article about us

Speaking of which, I thought this article in the Graunid was good http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/jul/23/jack-monroe-face-modern-poverty

Her blog is well worth a look

I love this reply to some BTL idiots

http://agirlcalledjack.com/2013/07/...his-show-the-same-behaviour-as-crack-addicts/

I don’t normally respond to online comments to news articles, but I have been astounded over the past few days by some assumptions and ‘advice’ on the Guardian forums.

Apparently having tattoos and mirrored kitchen tiles makes me akin to a crack addict.

1. Those mirrored kitchen tiles were put in by the landlord that owns my previous flat. They’re pretty, sure, but they don’t affect the rent rate nor can I eat them.

2. I haven’t had a tattoo since I was unemployed. And I covered them for job interviews, so no, they didn’t affect my chances of employment. I deliberately rolled my sleeves up for the shoot because I have tattoos and I am not ashamed of them – and they do not make me ‘low class’ as some commenters would suggest. I got my first at 18 and my last before life went tits up.

And to the other commenter – i’m not going to ‘get a husband’, because firstly, it’s not a sound solution to ones household economy, and secondly, I’m a lesbian.

 

[Delroy Booth]

I see she's doing nothing to change that, having clearly not actually bothered to speak to any real live single mums bringing up children in poverty before writing her article about us

Indeed.

It's just more royal baby fodder that article. Telegraph go mad with patriotism, Express are giving every reader a commemorative spoon, the guardian and the statesman write semi-cynical "won't someone think of all the other children who aren't posh" but it's still part of the same media narrative, it's still a Royal Baby story. I've got the shotgun, you've got the briefcase, but it's all in the game though, right?




The most radical and subversive thing to have done is just write an article about children born into poverty without the refencing the monarchy or this kid at all, but no, sadly that's now how it works

 

[Belushi]

An attack on Laurie & the Grauniad, a bizarre Express story (a free spoon?) and you've managed to shoehorn in a gratuitous Wire clip.

Top work Delroy

 

[Delroy Booth]

An attack on Laurie & the Grauniad, a bizarre Express story (a free spoon?) and you've managed to shoehorn in a gratuitous Wire clip.

Top work Delroy

I aim to please.

Tbh that scene pisses me off a bit. Proper cheesy. The "gasps in the room" as Omar heroically exposes their hypocrisy is a bit cringeworthy I reckon.

 

[TruXta]

Temporary Autonomous Sloane

Best so far

 

[smokedout]

Speaking of which, I thought this article in the Graunid was good http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/jul/23/jack-monroe-face-modern-poverty

Her blog is well worth a look

she seems okay, but this is blatant bollocks: http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2013/jul/20/10-pound-a-week-recipes

the idea that you could get away with feeding a kid, let alone an adult, a small bowl of mushroom soup or half a can of chickpeas for a main meal is nonsense and not really helpful

 

[smokedout]

and to be fair when I was living with my kid full time for a while on single persons JSA (£70 a week) I still had more than a tenner a week for food for both of us, find it all a bit

 

[tufty79]

the idea that you could get away with feeding ... an adult...half a can of chickpeas for a main meal is nonsense and not really helpful

*raises hand as survivor of living in a vegan co-op*
they saw nothing wrong with it