Alex Callinicos/SWP vs Laurie Penny/New Statesman Facebook handbags

[rosecore]

Her mini Wimbledon rant was so unnecessary when it was a feel-good moment for any tennis/Murray fan. Not that she was trying to put the attention on herself or anything...

 

[frogwoman]

Shit I'm not the world's best tennis fan, I do like playing it though (although I'm crap) and I don't have a clue who is who in the tennis world but I was pleased when Andy Murray won, it's been such a long time since the UK won anything especially something as important as Wimbledon.

 

[DotCommunist]

I don't even understand the rules of tennis. I kept hoping a heroic dog would come sailing in from leftfield and snatch the ball, running away to freedom while being chased by a load of irate fans before being cornered on murrays mound and defiantly eating the ball before the horrified crowd

 

[JHE]

There is an obvious problem with the comparison with a child standing in front of the TV: the child impedes people's view of the TV, while LP's comments do not impede anyone's view of Wimbledon.

Twitter is a medium which promotes the publishing of trivia, including trivial opinions on, for example, sports events. (The same is true of bulletin boards like u75, though fewer people read bulletin boards.)

Some young hack says she doesn't like summer, competitive sport or twee patriotism and so doesn't like Wimbledon. So what? Why do people get so bitchy? In fact, why read her Twitterings in the first place?

 

[DotCommunist]

There is an obvious problem with the comparison with a child standing in front of the TV: the child impedes people's view of the TV, while LP's comments do not impede anyone's view of Wimbledon.

Twitter is a medium which promotes the publishing of trivia, including trivial opinions on, for example, sports events. (The same is true of bulletin boards like u75, though fewer people read bulletin boards.)

Some young hack says she doesn't like summer, competitive sport or twee patriotism and so doesn't like Wimbledon. So what? Why do people get so bitchy? In fact, why read her Twitterings in the first place?

its irritating posturing from someone who is all for a kind of soft left englandism the rest of the time.

I'm not on twitter so I have to wait till the tweets get posted here before I can get annoyed.

140 character cunts

 

[BigTom]

Shit I'm not the world's best tennis fan, I do like playing it though (although I'm crap) and I don't have a clue who is who in the tennis world but I was pleased when Andy Murray won, it's been such a long time since the UK won anything especially something as important as Wimbledon.

Nah, loads of olympics stuff, Tour De France, F1, Champions cup/league, the Ashes... UK people/teams have won loads of things in the past few years, and I don't follow any sports so I bet there's even more. Just been a very long time since a men's champion at Wimbledon and of course that's on home soil so looms larger than the TDF or F1.
Oh, and the Oxford-Cambridge boat race. The UK wins that every year

I couldn't give a toss about wimbledon or any other sport, but I just don't say anything. Shiv Malik bang on with his comment there, if you're not interested in something, just keep quiet, no need to shout about how uninterested you are, people will learn you aren't interested by the fact you never talk about it or join in those conversations.

 

[J Ed]

re: the attention grabbing thing, in a similar vein on twitter while saying that she is uninterested in the tennis she let us know that she would be willing to fuck Andy Murray which while obviously fine doesn't make her seem like she is trying to do anything other than get attention although to be fair she has made a decent living out of monetizing attention so why stop now.

 

[J Ed]

Edit - oh god I just looked at the comments on that, is this stuff satire?


paulusthewoodgnome ‏@woodgnomology

18h​

@PennyRed Actually, in light of yesterday's Bartoli atrocity, gender-balance demands a wouldn't.
Smedley Butler ‏@epivalent

18h​

@PennyRed same, and i have hetero-aligned outside genitals

 

[YouSir]

Much as I dislike Laurie Penny some of the desperate attempts to slate her on this thread are a bit, well, disturbing really. Wrong and mediocre she may be but the trawling through the minutiae of her life in search of disapproval fodder is just a bit wrong really, isn't it?

 

[killer b]

ooh, who's done that?

 

[DotCommunist]

every five minutes some cunt turns up to cry misogyny, despite the wildly sprawling nature of the thread. Sometimes its even penny herself

 

[The39thStep]

Spiked are such a bunch of cunts its not even funny. The worst sort of dabblers. Toe dipping into left politics in order to stand arch and comment from the eyrie of grown up eagalism. May they fucking rot from the inside out.

As if the left is a private swimming pool fine with a members only policy.

Some of Spiked's stuff is good imo .

 

[YouSir]

every five minutes some cunt turns up to cry misogyny, despite the wildly sprawling nature of the thread. Sometimes its even penny herself

Who said anything about misogyny? Or the thread as a whole for that matter?

 

[DotCommunist]

As if the left is a private swimming pool fine with a members only policy.

Some of Spiked's stuff is good imo .

I never said it was, but the spiked school of arch commentary is just shit. They don't even have a paper for gods sake

but no I cannot recall encountering an article that did not annoy me

 

[DotCommunist]

Who said anything about misogyny? Or the thread as a whole for that matter?

don't pretend you weren't thinking it.

 

[YouSir]

don't pretend you weren't thinking it.

Oh piss off, don't tell me what I'm thinking.

 

[DotCommunist]

if you stop thinking it I won't have to

 

[YouSir]

if you stop thinking it I won't have to

I don't have the fucking energy. Attribute whatever motivations to me you want and I'll form my opinion of you accordingly.

 

[DotCommunist]

I don't have the fucking energy. Attribute whatever motivations to me you want and I'll form my opinion of you accordingly.

yes sorry, that was just me being a baiting cockhead for my own amusement

but if you look at this thread its really not solely about penny and her life. Indeed any signs of over-obsession are swiftly slapped into touch

 

[ViolentPanda]

Maybe she prefers bombastic marching patriotism

"Pfennig, Pfennig, uber alles..."

 

[Tom A]

Spiked are such a bunch of cunts its not even funny. The worst sort of dabblers. Toe dipping into left politics in order to stand arch and comment from the eyrie of grown up eagalism. May they fucking rot from the inside out.

They are pretty insidious because a lot of their rhetoric is quite seductive to liberal Guardianista thinkers and even more radical types, and they have their fingers in quite a lot of pies too, and people may not be aware of their true political affiliations.

 

[Tom A]

every five minutes some cunt turns up to cry misogyny, despite the wildly sprawling nature of the thread. Sometimes its even penny herself

The Intersectional Empire Strikes Back...

 

[ViolentPanda]

Oh piss off, don't tell me what I'm thinking.

He's a member of the Illuminati. He not only knows what you're thinking, he directs you to think it, too!

 

[Sue]

Edit - oh god I just looked at the comments on that, is this stuff satire?


paulusthewoodgnome ‏@woodgnomology

18h​

@PennyRed Actually, in light of yesterday's Bartoli atrocity, gender-balance demands a wouldn't.
Smedley Butler ‏@epivalent

18h​

@PennyRed same, and i have hetero-aligned outside genitals

'Hetero-aligned outside genitals'?

 

[JimW]

Much as I dislike Laurie Penny some of the desperate attempts to slate her on this thread are a bit, well, disturbing really. Wrong and mediocre she may be but the trawling through the minutiae of her life in search of disapproval fodder is just a bit wrong really, isn't it?

Come on, it's all she's useful for (and who'd read her otherwise?). It's not as if she's averse to parasiting the details of everyone else's lives as grist to her me-me-mill.

 

[treelover]

New Statesman have been deleting comments on their site about the Unite affair, if they are critical of N/S's clear support for the purge and of the hacks endorsement,

 

[Tom A]

New Statesman have been deleting comments on their site about the Unite affair, if they are critical of N/S's clear support for the purge and of the hacks endorsement,

Time to kick up a stink on this? Although it's not like the New Statesman's opinions mean much to the average prole.

 

[J Ed]

New Statesman have been deleting comments on their site about the Unite affair, if they are critical of N/S's clear support for the purge and of the hacks endorsement,

Scum. I hope their piss poor magazine goes under.

 

[frogwoman]

They are (and are seen) as "the left" though.

Bunch of arsewipes

 

[rekil]

It's a bit surprising that there's been no mention of Bartoli's painting anywhere. Derivative? Hetero-normative? Anti-intersectional? A little bit patriarchy?