Alex Callinicos/SWP vs Laurie Penny/New Statesman Facebook handbags

[muscovyduck]

https://twitter.com/itwassarcasm/status/327910235337547777 sigh

 

[treelover]

One of the worst things about the US hipsters and twitterati is that they are living in a country of such extremes, people literally dying on the street and many millions on foodstamps while others live in massive mansions and spend obscene amounts on luxuries (yes its starting here) its just makes their petty pecadilloes, interests, and obsessions even more crass and bewildering..

though still baffled why they are important though and worthy of mega-threads, especially as some posters seem to be getting genuinely upset about their utterances.

 

[Steel Icarus]

Everyone dies. Don't hand them ammo btw.

Yeah, JEd, we don't want to prove their worst incorrect assumptions right, eh

 

[el-ahrairah]

oh god sihhi, that is some vile. people like that are the fucking enemy and no answer.

i swear if she does an exhibition in the uk me and a bucket of shit are going along.

 

[el-ahrairah]

though still baffled why they are important though and worthy of mega-threads, especially as some posters seem to be getting genuinely upset about their utterances.

if you don't get the thread by now mate, you aren't going to.

 

[sihhi]

So the message here is make pornography out of yourself or you're stupid, if after making pornography out of yourself you find that there are negative consequences then that is just because you are dumb.

Nice person, this Molly.

I hope she dies.

Steady on that's a bit heavy we have no evidence that she does exploit the people she emloys.
Malcolm Harris - also effectively a manager as an editot TNI said this as a conclusion to discussion of sexual picture blackmail/abuse via mobile phones:

no one likes the idea of creepy exes showing nude pictures of them to their friends. But eventually no one is going to care. So our flirting and sexual practices change in relation to technology — so what? The cops and parents will get over kids sending each other “show-me-yours” pics. No one is better about getting blasé about such things than teenagers. There’s nothing wrong with it... Carla Bruni Sarkozy has plenty of topless photos out there, but they’re nice and she’s French, so no one is angry. Why can’t that work for someone you recognize from Human Resources or math class?

Far more belittling really.

I think both are up for new experiences type people so taking on limey bastards on a forum would be a fun time for them - must be some way to reach them.

 

[Steel Icarus]

though still baffled why they are important though and worthy of mega-threads, especially as some posters seem to be getting genuinely upset about their utterances.

For the very reason this thread exists. There's more intelligence, political theory, criticism, knowledge, ideas, and even humour in here than in the combined works of Jones, O'Hagan, Moran, Penny, Hundal, Lewis, Ball, etc etc etc. And yet they are the ones being read, being paid, being listened to, as if they are The Left. Not saying WE are, but ffs.

I do come at this as someone new to politics really and without either being at all well-read on politics or very articulate as far as politics goes, so forgive me if I'm presuming to speak for anyone else, I'm not really.

 

[equationgirl]

Isn't it strange she was selling a Macbook pro and a few hours later she comes out with some bullshit about being robbed? It's almost as if she was skint and selling her Mac wasn't making her a buck quick enough. Transparant as...

Hey boys and girls, I am selling my laptop as I am a bit skint. It has revolutionary and radical stickers, anyone want to buy it?​

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[No interest]​

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Hey boys and girls, I have been robbed in NYC. Oh woe is me, I am so skint, what can I do? BTW my paypal is lauriepenny@gmail.com​

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[Suddenly the US is great again and better then Britain]​

If she sells her laptop what will she write articles with?

 

[J Ed]

Steady on that's a bit heavy we have no evidence that she does exploit the people she emloys.
Malcolm Harris - also effectively a manager as an editot TNI said this as a conclusion to discussion of sexual picture blackmail/abuse via mobile phones:

I wasn't suggesting that she was exploiting people directly I just find her attitude creepy and sociopathic.

 

[Firky]

If she sells her laptop what will she write articles with?

The same as she ever did, the three I's

1. Imagination
2. Invention
3. Inaccuracy

 

[sihhi]

https://twitter.com/itwassarcasm/status/327910235337547777 sigh

"@mollycrabapple: needs more cleavage though"
LP: "There are, for instance, far fewer young people trying to change media in the UK. There's no London equiv. of @newinquiry or @jacobinmag"
Seriously WTF? Parodying these people is getting harder and harder.

 

[treelover]

For the very reason this thread exists. There's more intelligence, political theory, criticism, knowledge, ideas, and even humour in here than in the combined works of Jones, O'Hagan, Moran, Penny, Hundal, Lewis, Ball, etc etc etc. And yet they are the ones being read, being paid, being listened to, as if they are The Left. Not saying WE are, but ffs.

I do come at this as someone new to politics really and without either being at all well-read on politics or very articulate as far as politics goes, so forgive me if I'm presuming to speak for anyone else, I'm not really.

'
Didn't know that, i thought your initials in your name tag stood for the 'Situationist Internationale'

 

[equationgirl]

PennyRed : Anyone have a story of online sexism/harrassment they want to share with me for a piece I'm working on? Get in touch. laurie.penny@gmail.com

is she on about here ye reckon

I have a story about online harassment - about women who bandy about cries of 'misogynist' when they're legitimately criticised by other female posters.

 

[muscovyduck]

I have a story about online harassment - about women who bandy about cries of 'misogynist' when they're legotimately criticised by other female posters.

There's a half arsed doodle for that too but the visual metaphor isn't portrayed very well
(aka: it's shit)
https://twitter.com/itwassarcasm/status/327836726531874816

 

[Casually Red]

So the message here is make pornography out of yourself or you're stupid, if after making pornography out of yourself you find that there are negative consequences then that is just because you are dumb.

Nice person, this Molly.

is she actually talking about porn though, or solely about porn, as opposed to modelling naked . Theres a difference .

edit

what i took from it is shes saying you can make pretty decent money from naked modelling and it shouldnt hold you back from being taken seriously academically or as a writer if you have those talents too .

 

[Firky]

There's a half arsed doodle for that too but the visual metaphor isn't portrayed very well
(aka: it's shit)
https://twitter.com/itwassarcasm/status/327836726531874816

That person follows me

WTF?

 

[muscovyduck]

is she actually talking about porn though, or solely about porn, as opposed to modelling naked . Theres a difference .

I always thought it was the same thing, but I never thought much about it I guess. Could you explain the difference?

 

[muscovyduck]

That person follows me

WTF?

Edit: Removing the post even though it obvious what I said because of reason discussed in post

It can be our... secret

 

[sihhi]

I wasn't suggesting that she was exploiting people directly I just find her attitude creepy and sociopathic.

OK. It could be misinterpreted because of the booth babes and hiring of models in a specifically sexualised "burlesque" life drawing for the art lessons.

 

[Firky]

Nuala ‏@itwassarcasm 21 Mar
#aspirationnation I aspire to have this scaled up to a poster size and stuck on my bedroom wall. pic.twitter.com/71NKMGgkLk

 

[muscovyduck]

ok right the problem is most my followers are teenagers my own age who watch made in chealsea and shop in forever 21 and so slipping in too much actual politics is awkward and so the timeline is a mess but oh well

 

[Firky]

shhhhhh
it is definitely not me wanting to show off how sarcastic I am without revealing my identity

ok right the problem is most my followers are teenagers my own age who watch made in chealsea and shop in forever 21 and so slipping in too much actual politics is awkward and so the timeline is a mess but oh well

I wasn't taking the piss!!!

Aaahh! You're galleries great

 

[Firky]

Right, I am going to stop twitter stalking you now, muscovyduck

 

[Casually Red]

I always thought it was the same thing, but I never thought much about it I guess. Could you explain the difference?

well the art nude genre is considered quite respectable despite there being a lot of full frontal stuff. My ex ..who would be considered very "hot" by those standards..has done it for years, pretty much paid her way through university and phd . She still does it and is a university lecturer now . Not to mention a quite ferocious feminist whod go mad if i held a door open for her.

 

[muscovyduck]

Right, I am going to stop twitter stalking you now, muscovyduck

Sometimes I twitter stalk myself and I end up wanting to punch myself in the face, although I have to admit my gallery is fabulous

 

[Treacle Toes]

Laurie Penny ‏@PennyRed 6h
Jetlag. Time distortion. Oh god where am I. I'm on a hacker's bedroom floor in Reykjavik. Right, first step emails, second step trousers.

Look everyone, I know a REAL hacker, who cares about my carbon footprint

 

[Casually Red]

Look everyone, I know a REAL hacker

ill bet hes got a guy fawkes mask and everything..pwopa nawty

 

[Firky]

Look everyone, I know a REAL hacker, who cares about my carbon footprint

She's so zany, first step emails, second step trousers. lol. What is she going to do next? By a mars bar in budapest. lol. she's KrAzY.

 

[sihhi]

Labour

NUS General Secretaries since 2000:

Andrew Pakes has just been adopted Labour Milton Keynes prospective general election candidate.
Owain James is high up in a development+education charity.
Mandy Telford was a SpAd to Tessa Jowell and is a fulltimer in the Labour Party.
Kat Fletcher is already a Labour councillor.
Gemma Tumelty is high up in the always pro-Labour TUC full-timers international division.
Wes Streeting is already a Labour councillor.
Aaron Porter is chief of some science business and education charity.

 

[muscovyduck]

well the art nude genre is considered quite respectable despite there being a lot of full frontal stuff. My ex ..who would be considered very "hot" by those standards..has done it for years, pretty much paid her way through university and phd . She still does it and is a university lecturer now . Not to mention a quite ferocious feminist whod go mad if i held a door open for her.

So the difference is what people think of it?